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Reply #270 posted 10/09/19 1:30pm

bsprout

yes, great new article...I can't get enough of these articles/interviews, thank you. Each time I read snippets of new details about the book I feel yet another tinge of sadness that we will never see this book fully written by Prince. I can't help it. I still can't wait to read this book.

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Reply #271 posted 10/10/19 7:24am

darkroman

luv4u said:

violetcrush said:

feeluupp said: Expected as much all along. He had just begun writing and planning the book, and was only two months into it. The new pictures and handwritten pieces will be nice to see, but I knew the rest would be someone else’s perspective.


I am looking to reading this book.


Yes, I totally agree, this book will be very nice indeed!

However any positivity is slaughtered when the Estate threatens people!

The Prince community has always been known as being, let's say, a little odd, but the Estate are nasty and vicious towards the very people they expect to extort money from every time they want to release a product!

So now I don't know if this book is a good or bad thing as the Estate has runined the excitement and anticipation!

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Reply #272 posted 10/10/19 7:30am

poppys

^^What??? It's a book.

Do not even want to know what excitement and anticipation of yours has been ruined by threats and extortion.

politics: the art or science of government.
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Reply #273 posted 10/10/19 8:26am

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poppys said:

^^What??? It's a book.

Do not even want to know what excitement and anticipation of yours has been ruined by threats and extortion.

yeahthat lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #274 posted 10/10/19 11:47am

ladygirl99

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violetcrush said:

icecreamcastle777 said: No, actually it’s you cryptically or blatantly doing what you are accusing me of doing. You just did it again right there. But okay, sure lol



[Take your bitchfest to orgnotes rather than derail/ruin a thread, thanks] biggrin

lol Shading......

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Reply #275 posted 10/10/19 11:49am

ladygirl99

I want reviews only from the orgers before consider purchase this book. One thing about the org they will continue to keep it real and very frank while other Prince sites would sugarcoat. biggrin

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Reply #276 posted 10/10/19 4:39pm

PeggyO

ladygirl99 said:

I want reviews only from the orgers before consider purchase this book. One thing about the org they will continue to keep it real and very frank while other Prince sites would sugarcoat. biggrin

I have missed you Ladygirl99!

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Reply #277 posted 10/10/19 8:07pm

mnfriend

BartVanHemelen said:

I've already updated the first post, but just to make sure you see it: O, i.e. Oprah's magazine, has an article by Chris Jackson, the editor of the book in its November 2019 issue: https://www.oprahmag.com/...s-jackson/

[Edited 10/9/19 8:37am]



Thanks.
for whatever reason, it took me awhile to read thru and look at the pictures, new ones to me.


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Reply #278 posted 10/10/19 8:35pm

mnfriend

mnfriend said:

BartVanHemelen said:

I've already updated the first post, but just to make sure you see it: O, i.e. Oprah's magazine, has an article by Chris Jackson, the editor of the book in its November 2019 issue: https://www.oprahmag.com/...s-jackson/

[Edited 10/9/19 8:37am]



Thanks.
for whatever reason, it took me awhile to read thru and look at the pictures, new ones to me.


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Now to a lighter note; copied from new O Magazine article from above:

'It was unprecedented in my experience to be meeting a prospective author with the competition present, and in our own ways each of us was trying to stand out. One of the editors, in the fog of the moment, brought up the rumor that the design of the 1999 album was meant to represent 666 upside down. Prince let that sit in the air for a minute, and the energy shifted in the room. He said “no” dismissively, but I also felt a hint of frustration: I sensed this was just the sort of thing that drove him crazy.'

Crazy? Ha ha, epic FAIL. Do you know nothing? THAT'S going to be what you ask Prince?
energy shifted I bet NEXT!

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Reply #279 posted 10/11/19 9:10am

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mnfriend said:

mnfriend said:



Thanks.
for whatever reason, it took me awhile to read thru and look at the pictures, new ones to me.


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Now to a lighter note; copied from new O Magazine article from above:

'It was unprecedented in my experience to be meeting a prospective author with the competition present, and in our own ways each of us was trying to stand out. One of the editors, in the fog of the moment, brought up the rumor that the design of the 1999 album was meant to represent 666 upside down. Prince let that sit in the air for a minute, and the energy shifted in the room. He said “no” dismissively, but I also felt a hint of frustration: I sensed this was just the sort of thing that drove him crazy.'

Crazy? Ha ha, epic FAIL. Do you know nothing? THAT'S going to be what you ask Prince?
energy shifted I bet NEXT!

I remember vividly it was a BIG rumor back then, that Prince(r.i.p.) worshiped the devil & was part of an occult. In fact the rumor gained so much steam, that when I returned home from school, my mother tore ALL my posters off the wall and balled them up and threw them in the trash can.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #280 posted 10/11/19 11:02pm

mnfriend

ChocolateBox3121 said:

mnfriend said:

Now to a lighter note; copied from new O Magazine article from above:

'It was unprecedented in my experience to be meeting a prospective author with the competition present, and in our own ways each of us was trying to stand out. One of the editors, in the fog of the moment, brought up the rumor that the design of the 1999 album was meant to represent 666 upside down. Prince let that sit in the air for a minute, and the energy shifted in the room. He said “no” dismissively, but I also felt a hint of frustration: I sensed this was just the sort of thing that drove him crazy.'

Crazy? Ha ha, epic FAIL. Do you know nothing? THAT'S going to be what you ask Prince?
energy shifted I bet NEXT!

I remember vividly it was a BIG rumor back then, that Prince(r.i.p.) worshiped the devil & was part of an occult. In fact the rumor gained so much steam, that when I returned home from school, my mother tore ALL my posters off the wall and balled them up and threw them in the trash can.


I remember no such rumor nor heard it spoken until I read it from 1 of the vying editors asking it to Prince here in 'O' magazine article. I think it was the stupidest question to ask him directly upon meeting w/ others in the room, too.

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Reply #281 posted 10/12/19 6:36am

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mnfriend said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I remember vividly it was a BIG rumor back then, that Prince(r.i.p.) worshiped the devil & was part of an occult. In fact the rumor gained so much steam, that when I returned home from school, my mother tore ALL my posters off the wall and balled them up and threw them in the trash can.


I remember no such rumor nor heard it spoken until I read it from 1 of the vying editors asking it to Prince here in 'O' magazine article. I think it was the stupidest question to ask him directly upon meeting w/ others in the room, too.

It was also rumors back then if U played Prince's(r.i.p.) records backwards it was satanic messages also. Of course I NEVER believed any of it.U can't worship the devil but then thank God in your liner notes. But the rumors were DEFINITELY there.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #282 posted 10/12/19 7:10am

IstenSzek

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

mnfriend said:


I remember no such rumor nor heard it spoken until I read it from 1 of the vying editors asking it to Prince here in 'O' magazine article. I think it was the stupidest question to ask him directly upon meeting w/ others in the room, too.

It was also rumors back then if U played Prince's(r.i.p.) records backwards it was satanic messages also. Of course I NEVER believed any of it.U can't worship the devil but then thank God in your liner notes. But the rumors were DEFINITELY there.


indeed. it always struck me as incredibly thick and stupid when people would act like
prince worshipped the devil. he was all about peace love and god. and sex, yes, that
is probably why they thought he was 'evil'. the moral majority, indeed confused

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #283 posted 10/12/19 11:48am

rogifan

[Edited 10/12/19 11:49am]

Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #284 posted 10/12/19 11:52am

rogifan

PennyPurple said:

Militant said:

Just to clear something up - it's not an autobiography by any means, but it's not a biography, either. There aren't words on Prince's life written by anyone else, save for the intro by Dan which is simply his memories of how the book came about.

The remainder of the book (aside from the Dan intro and what was completed of the memoir) is the Dreams/Purple Rain treatment, lots of previously unseen photos, scans of handwritten lyrics for songs (Not gonna say which, but mostly ones from Purple Rain) and quotes from Prince interviews.

There aren't parts written by other people about Prince.




Please don't spoil it for us. I'm so excited to get this book, and I'd rather not have any spoilers.

I don't consider it a spoiler. Just confirming what it's not. I'm more interested in it knowing it's only Prince's words, save for the intro.

Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #285 posted 10/12/19 12:12pm

motherfunka

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The Beautiful Ones, Official Release Party at Paisley Park on November 1st.

https://tickets.paisleypa...re#cat1249

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #286 posted 10/13/19 8:39am

ladygirl99

PeggyO said:

ladygirl99 said:

I want reviews only from the orgers before consider purchase this book. One thing about the org they will continue to keep it real and very frank while other Prince sites would sugarcoat. biggrin

I have missed you Ladygirl99!

Same here lol welcome back. lol

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Reply #287 posted 10/13/19 8:41am

ladygirl99

motherfunka said:

The Beautiful Ones, Official Release Party at Paisley Park on November 1st.

https://tickets.paisleypa...re#cat1249

I hope there are going to be people attending and telling us what went down. I want to know who was there and what are discussions etc.

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Reply #288 posted 10/13/19 2:10pm

motherfunka

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ladygirl99 said:

motherfunka said:

The Beautiful Ones, Official Release Party at Paisley Park on November 1st.

https://tickets.paisleypa...re#cat1249

I hope there are going to be people attending and telling us what went down. I want to know who was there and what are discussions etc.

I'll report back. wink

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Reply #289 posted 10/14/19 4:11am

SoulSplash

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. Actually, they were going to close The Holy River. In fact, Prince wanted it all taken down when he moved on to the next site, but StarMaiden took over The Holy River, and maintained it. Eventually, even moving it to a new server. Star had to do some convincing Paisley Park to allow us to keep The Holy River, but eventually they relented.

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When he had The Lotus Flow3r website, I had emailed (don't know who the support people were) but asked them about putting a chat on that website. They said that it had been in discussion, but that Prince had nixed it because he felt the chatrooms became too negative over time, and he just didn't want to mess with them any more because of that. Just too much drama in the chats.

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True. Thanx for the reply. I meant to say he continued the same kind of chatroom idea that he had used on AOL and with The Holy River where he could private message fans and create his own private rooms to pull them into if he wanted. On NPGMC, and I think on The Holy River too, he didn't even have to "appear" as being in the main chatroom when he was in fact present. He liked seeing what the fans were saying and how they reacted to different things. Also, he liked throwing a subject out (whether in private chats or public) and seeing what you thought. For example, one of them was "What if Jesus walked into the room... Would you believe it was Him if He said it was Him?" Remember the new NPGMC chatroom often had a subject of the day that he wanted people to discuss. Imagine The Rainbow Children preview party discussions in online chats with smaller groups of fans. That's how he was online with people. He loved that stuff.

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And you're right about the negativity and drama. I'm sure the in-fighting in the forums had a lot to do with NPGMC eventually closing. It goes back to comments he read in a.m.p. about the philosophical and spiritual writings that were posted on L4OA (not always written solely by him btw, but out of discussions with him). Same with comments he read in the Prodigy and AOL forums, then here on prince.org and in the NPGMC forums. Also while watching his own chatrooms. Of course, he really loved his fans and made himself available to us in many different ways at many different times, but songs like "PFUnk U" (aka P.F.U.N.K.) and "Love" are in response to some of the comments which evidently frustrated him.

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Let me add that the time he spent on social media wasn't always about him or his fans, of course. I remember on AOL where he spent a lot of time in some of the miscellaneous spiritual chatrooms there, having "Bible study" (as he put it) with people, or just talking about very general spiritual topics, no matter one's particular beliefs. He was very loving, open, and kind no matter how much someone might've disagreed with him or lashed out at him. He was a great inspiration for how a true hue-man should be. As confirmed by final bandmates like Hannah, he was the same until the very end. A beautiful spirit. One of many of The Beautiful Ones.

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Reply #290 posted 10/14/19 5:25am

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SoulSplash said:

He liked seeing what the fans were saying and how they reacted to different things.

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Only when they followed the party line.

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And you're right about the negativity and drama. I'm sure the in-fighting in the forums had a lot to do with NPGMC eventually closing.

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They were closed because it took too much effort to censor all the people who were pissed off about being ripped off again and again.

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Of course, he really loved his fans

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He sued them.

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He was very loving, open, and kind no matter how much someone might've disagreed with him or lashed out at him.

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Oh come on. They PHYSICALLY separated people into "good" and "bad" during the Rainbow Children discussions at PP.

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Do you really think it is a coincidence that ALL unofficial fanclubs at one point or another just decided to pack it in after getting harrassed by Prince et al over and over again? (On a related note: noticed how there's a looooong list of former band members and employees who mentioned after his death that they hadn't spoken to him in decades?)

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Reply #291 posted 10/14/19 8:41am

Strive

If only this place would censor people who are continuously wrong, negative and just a chore to be around...
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
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Reply #292 posted 10/14/19 1:58pm

violetcrush

Strive said:

If only this place would censor people who are continuously wrong, negative and just a chore to be around...

If you're referrnig to Bart's response, I think he is correct with regard to his information, and also just being realistic with none of the "sugar-coat" that we often see posted smile

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Prince was a genius musician, but it seems he was a very difficult human. It was his way or the highway, as most of his associates/friends have stated. Prince, during his very heavy JW period, was extremely hardlined with everyone - including fans - about beliefs either being right or wrong. His were right, and the rest were wrong.

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Reply #293 posted 10/14/19 3:03pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

Oh come on. They PHYSICALLY separated people into "good" and "bad" during the Rainbow Children discussions at PP.



Whoa. Never heard this before. Can you elaborate?

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Reply #294 posted 10/14/19 3:54pm

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violetcrush said:

Strive said:

If only this place would censor people who are continuously wrong, negative and just a chore to be around...

If you're referrnig to Bart's response, I think he is correct with regard to his information, and also just being realistic with none of the "sugar-coat" that we often see posted smile

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Prince was a genius musician, but it seems he was a very difficult human. It was his way or the highway, as most of his associates/friends have stated. Prince(r.i.p.), during his very heavy JW period, was extremely hardlined with everyone - including fans - about beliefs either being right or wrong. His were right, and the rest were wrong.

Most geniuses are VERY strong willed people. It was NOTHING wrong with him teaching his beliefs to anyone that would listen. It's what made him the person he was. ALL JW's are hardlined it's what they do. I know of a few fans that converted to JW. So his mission was accomplished.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #295 posted 10/14/19 4:06pm

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Militant said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Whoa. Never heard this before. Can you elaborate?

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This was one of the first reports from that Celebration. There was a discussion where people were asked a question and divided into two groups and IIRC one of the groups got lectured on why they were wrong. Peopel were crying etc. Imaging paying a fuckload of money to visit your idol and then get lectured in public because you don't adhere to his cultish beliefs.

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Reply #296 posted 10/14/19 4:21pm

Strive

People who were there already said you were wrong but you still repeat it (because you're a terrible human being)
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Reply #297 posted 10/14/19 5:52pm

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:



violetcrush said:




Strive said:


If only this place would censor people who are continuously wrong, negative and just a chore to be around...


If you're referrnig to Bart's response, I think he is correct with regard to his information, and also just being realistic with none of the "sugar-coat" that we often see posted smile


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Prince was a genius musician, but it seems he was a very difficult human. It was his way or the highway, as most of his associates/friends have stated. Prince(r.i.p.), during his very heavy JW period, was extremely hardlined with everyone - including fans - about beliefs either being right or wrong. His were right, and the rest were wrong.



Most geniuses are VERY strong willed people. It was NOTHING wrong with him teaching his beliefs to anyone that would listen. It's what made him the person he was. ALL JW's are hardlined it's what they do. I know of a few fans that converted to JW. So his mission was accomplished.


It had NOTHING to do with his musical genius. He was also a musical genius back in the 80’s, and he NEVER hardlined that way - in fact, quite the opposite. The JW push their members to “witness” (aka preach) to non-members in order to increase membership. Very hardcore compared to other faiths.
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Even Questlove stated it was very hard finally meeting one of his musical idols and then being preached to for hours and hours. He said it was so long he actually fell asleep at one point.
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Reply #298 posted 10/14/19 6:00pm

violetcrush

Strive said:

People who were there already said you were wrong but you still repeat it (because you're a terrible human being)

Have you watched Kevin Smith’s video about his time at PP that week?? He specifically described the session where Prince divided the fan group in order to try to support his view of following the New World Translation Bible. It had to do with those who believe ending up with all of the women, because the men followed the laws of God.
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That was a hardcore time for him. He was preaching and proselytizing during his concerts too.
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Reply #299 posted 10/14/19 6:43pm

violetcrush

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:



violetcrush said:




Strive said:


If only this place would censor people who are continuously wrong, negative and just a chore to be around...


If you're referrnig to Bart's response, I think he is correct with regard to his information, and also just being realistic with none of the "sugar-coat" that we often see posted smile


*


Prince was a genius musician, but it seems he was a very difficult human. It was his way or the highway, as most of his associates/friends have stated. Prince(r.i.p.), during his very heavy JW period, was extremely hardlined with everyone - including fans - about beliefs either being right or wrong. His were right, and the rest were wrong.



Most geniuses are VERY strong willed people. It was NOTHING wrong with him teaching his beliefs to anyone that would listen. It's what made him the person he was. ALL JW's are hardlined it's what they do. I know of a few fans that converted to JW. So his mission was accomplished.


It had NOTHING to do with his musical genius. He was also a musical genius back in the 80’s, and he NEVER hardlined that way - in fact, quite the opposite. The JW push their members to “witness” (aka preach) to non-members in order to increase membership. Very hardcore compared to other faiths.
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Even Questlove stated it was very hard finally meeting one of his musical idols and then being preached to for hours and hours. He said it was so long he actually fell asleep at one point.

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Morris Hayes also stated he left the band during that time, because the JW witnessing became too much for him.
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