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Reply #60 posted 08/30/19 6:43pm

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Mumio, had the best response on this Prince.org in a while. The Estate is a bunch lawyers, not the Nelson Family Heirs. Unfortuntely from the responses your read on the many of the posts bepeople think "The Prince Estate" is the Nelson Family Heirs, Tyka and the other family members.

Prince.org and the moderators should do a better jobs of NOT perpetuating this false narritive. Just say the "The Estate" or "The Prince Estate" is a bunch of lawyers and accountants, lets call them out by their name and law firm, if we know. Also moderators clarify in the titles of these discussion posts the Nelson Family has little to do with the Estate and their decisions.

Mumio said it best, and I agree, we as fans are being mis-informed about everything. All the money is going to some Law Firms (Bremer Trust, then Comica), appointed by a Judge, The lawyers have charged and collected over 20 Million US dollars. Prince.org should make clear whom is making money on everything since Prince passing. it is not the Nelson Family or Heirs. Do the Nelson Family even have any say on what is currently going on with the music that is being released and the profits from it?

We are over 3 years and over 22 Estate threads, I think we know that the Estate is making most of the decisions, but the heirs also are making some decisions. The heirs don't make the best decisions, they are all ready in debt from borrowing money that they don't even have yet. You've got a few who are already talking to outside lawyers who some of the heirs gave confidential info too, who are now being sued, which of course up the $$ for even more legal fees.


So it's not very smart for them to borrow money on the money they haven't recieved yet, if they ever get it.

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Reply #61 posted 08/30/19 7:30pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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PennyPurple said:



Sexybeast said:


Mumio, had the best response on this Prince.org in a while. The Estate is a bunch lawyers, not the Nelson Family Heirs. Unfortuntely from the responses your read on the many of the posts bepeople think "The Prince Estate" is the Nelson Family Heirs, Tyka and the other family members.



Prince.org and the moderators should do a better jobs of NOT perpetuating this false narritive. Just say the "The Estate" or "The Prince Estate" is a bunch of lawyers and accountants, lets call them out by their name and law firm, if we know. Also moderators clarify in the titles of these discussion posts the Nelson Family has little to do with the Estate and their decisions.



Mumio said it best, and I agree, we as fans are being mis-informed about everything. All the money is going to some Law Firms (Bremer Trust, then Comica), appointed by a Judge, The lawyers have charged and collected over 20 Million US dollars. Prince.org should make clear whom is making money on everything since Prince passing. it is not the Nelson Family or Heirs. Do the Nelson Family even have any say on what is currently going on with the music that is being released and the profits from it?



We are over 3 years and over 22 Estate threads, I think we know that the Estate is making most of the decisions, but the heirs also are making some decisions. The heirs don't make the best decisions, they are all ready in debt from borrowing money that they don't even have yet. You've got a few who are already talking to outside lawyers who some of the heirs gave confidential info too, who are now being sued, which of course up the $$ for even more legal fees.



So it's not very smart for them to borrow money on the money they haven't recieved yet, if they ever get it.



All true words by Penny.
P's estate involves complex legal matters.
Mumio never said we were being misinformed.
We have made it very clear on the estate thread as to what is going on with the estate and how decisions are being made.
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Reply #62 posted 08/31/19 6:53am

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Sexybeast said:

Mumio, had the best response on this Prince.org in a while. The Estate is a bunch lawyers, not the Nelson Family Heirs. Unfortuntely from the responses your read on the many of the posts bepeople think "The Prince Estate" is the Nelson Family Heirs, Tyka and the other family members.

Prince.org and the moderators should do a better jobs of NOT perpetuating this false narritive. Just say the "The Estate" or "The Prince Estate" is a bunch of lawyers and accountants, lets call them out by their name and law firm, if we know. Also moderators clarify in the titles of these discussion posts the Nelson Family has little to do with the Estate and their decisions.

Mumio said it best, and I agree, we as fans are being mis-informed about everything. All the money is going to some Law Firms (Bremer Trust, then Comica), appointed by a Judge, The lawyers have charged and collected over 20 Million US dollars. Prince.org should make clear whom is making money on everything since Prince passing. it is not the Nelson Family or Heirs. Do the Nelson Family even have any say on what is currently going on with the music that is being released and the profits from it?

I don't think the org (nor the mods) is the reason why things aren't presented correctly, it's people's interpretation from what they hear from others usually...and many times that info is wrong from the start. It would be nice if the media would get things right in the first place but we know how THAT goes lol

Now I have to make a correction to what I said too: the heirs do have some minor say in what goes on with some stuff, but final say is with the court while the estate is still in probate. They have so little say that I didn't even consider it worth mentioning in my original comment, but should have.



[Edited 8/31/19 6:55am]

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Reply #63 posted 09/05/19 9:33am

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Does anyone know if the Estate is going to partner with Primary New Wave Music IP Fund? The are represented by a law firm and New Wave is an "interested person"

I googled and they partnered with the Whitney Houston estate.

[Edited 9/5/19 9:33am]

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Reply #64 posted 09/05/19 10:36am

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nelcp777 said:

Does anyone know if the Estate is going to partner with Primary New Wave Music IP Fund? The are represented by a law firm and New Wave is an "interested person"

I googled and they partnered with the Whitney Houston estate.



I saw that filing but have no clue as to what this means.


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Reply #65 posted 09/05/19 3:21pm

jfenster

can we get Sharon to possibly explain all this to us????

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Reply #66 posted 09/05/19 8:31pm

onlyforaminute

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can we get Sharon to possibly explain all this to us????


Has she ever?
Year of Return 2019
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Reply #67 posted 09/05/19 8:46pm

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onlyforaminute said:

jfenster said:

can we get Sharon to possibly explain all this to us????

Has she ever?



falloff

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Reply #68 posted 09/05/19 11:30pm

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jfenster said:

can we get Sharon to possibly explain all this to us????



lol Nope. I'm sure we'll be hearing more from the estate once Oct 1st rolls around.

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Reply #69 posted 09/06/19 7:40am

nelcp777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

Does anyone know if the Estate is going to partner with Primary New Wave Music IP Fund? The are represented by a law firm and New Wave is an "interested person"

I googled and they partnered with the Whitney Houston estate.



I saw that filing but have no clue as to what this means.


The company has something to do with publishing company. They own Kurt Cobain's copyrights.

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Reply #70 posted 09/08/19 5:00pm

rogifan

I walked through Prince's former property today. The front gate is still up with a no trespassing sign. But there is another entrance that isn't gated. Haven't started building anything yet.

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Reply #71 posted 09/09/19 11:56am

onlyforaminute

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



onlyforaminute said:


jfenster said:

can we get Sharon to possibly explain all this to us????



Has she ever?



falloff




I know there was the org interview but honestly I didn't find the answers all that insightful, they were vague and quite general. We're still to this day filling in blanks and guessing at answers. Its rare if ever, anyone resorts to anything in that interview to come to any conclusions around here let alone the wider general audience.
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Reply #72 posted 09/09/19 12:04pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



nelcp777 said:


Does anyone know if the Estate is going to partner with Primary New Wave Music IP Fund? The are represented by a law firm and New Wave is an "interested person"



I googled and they partnered with the Whitney Houston estate.






I saw that filing but have no clue as to what this means.



H’mmmmm, and then there were 5, now a coincidental interested person filing? Check yo’ shoes, cause I smell someth’n. disbelief
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Reply #73 posted 09/09/19 7:36pm

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TheEquilizer said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



I saw that filing but have no clue as to what this means.


H’mmmmmmm, and then there were 5, now a coincidental interested person filing? Check yo’ shoes, cause I smell someth’n. disbelief



Hi Sharon!






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Reply #74 posted 09/09/19 7:50pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

TheEquilizer said:

H’mmmmmmm, and then there were 5, now a coincidental interested person filing? Check yo’ shoes, cause I smell someth’n. disbelief



Hi Sharon!








spit

fixed up messy quote.

[Edited 9/9/19 20:44pm]

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Reply #75 posted 09/09/19 8:35pm

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Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Hi Sharon!








spit



That is messed up that it looks like I said Equilizer's quote.

Wasup with the org on replies?

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Reply #76 posted 09/09/19 8:45pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Mumio said:



spit



That is messed up that it looks like I said Equilizer's quote.

Wasup with the org on replies?

eek



Longstanding problem here when quoting. I fixed it.

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Reply #77 posted 09/10/19 9:08am

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TheEquilizer said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



I saw that filing but have no clue as to what this means.


H’mmmmmmm, and then there were 5, now a coincidental interested person filing? Check yo’ shoes, cause I smell someth’n. disbelief

If you are "in the know", please shed some light on how Alfred's passing could have anything to do with a copyrights company?

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Reply #78 posted 09/10/19 7:38pm

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rogifan said:

I walked through Prince's former property today. The front gate is still up with a no trespassing sign. But there is another entrance that isn't gated. Haven't started building anything yet.











*Thank you for posting these pictures. I’m an old Minnesotan have not been back in a long time. Out here in N CA, Lennar builds beautiful homes.
ETA: looks so wistful and wonderful until I pulled up pictures and MN WINTER featured BRRRR it all came back to me. LOL
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Reply #79 posted 09/11/19 9:51am

PeggyO

mnfriend said:

rogifan said:

I walked through Prince's former property today. The front gate is still up with a no trespassing sign. But there is another entrance that isn't gated. Haven't started building anything yet.

*Thank you for posting these pictures. I’m an old Minnesotan have not been back in a long time. Out here in N CA, Lennar builds beautiful homes. ETA: looks so wistful and wonderful until I pulled up pictures and MN WINTER featured BRRRR it all came back to me. LOL [Edited 9/10/19 19:40pm]

I had to chuckle as I am a native No. Californian and am stunned by the beauty of these photos and even plan to visit next week, but there is another side...(If one is not acclimated to the cold)

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Reply #80 posted 09/11/19 3:08pm

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mnfriend said:

rogifan said: *Thank you for posting these pictures. I’m an old Minnesotan have not been back in a long time. Out here in N CA, Lennar builds beautiful homes. ETA: looks so wistful and wonderful until I pulled up pictures and MN WINTER featured BRRRR it all came back to me. LOL [Edited 9/10/19 19:40pm]

I had to chuckle as I am a native No. Californian and am stunned by the beauty of these photos and even plan to visit next week, but there is another side...(If one is not acclimated to the cold)


It's unseasonably cool here right now and we're getting tons of rain. I'm sad to see the property go. I'm hoping there is some tribute paid to Prince. If it's street names or maybe just a park memorial. It will be nice to be able to walk through the neighborhood and get to Lake Ann.

Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #81 posted 09/11/19 3:11pm

rogifan

mnfriend said:

rogifan said:

I walked through Prince's former property today. The front gate is still up with a no trespassing sign. But there is another entrance that isn't gated. Haven't started building anything yet.

*Thank you for posting these pictures. I’m an old Minnesotan have not been back in a long time. Out here in N CA, Lennar builds beautiful homes. ETA: looks so wistful and wonderful until I pulled up pictures and MN WINTER featured BRRRR it all came back to me. LOL [Edited 9/10/19 19:40pm]


Looks like the cheapest models will start at $549,000 and some models will be close to $1M. eek

https://www.lennar.com/ne...n/the-park

Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #82 posted 09/11/19 3:52pm

PeggyO

rogifan said:

PeggyO said:

I had to chuckle as I am a native No. Californian and am stunned by the beauty of these photos and even plan to visit next week, but there is another side...(If one is not acclimated to the cold)


It's unseasonably cool here right now and we're getting tons of rain. I'm sad to see the property go. I'm hoping there is some tribute paid to Prince. If it's street names or maybe just a park memorial. It will be nice to be able to walk through the neighborhood and get to Lake Ann.

I'm sad about it too. Wanted to come out to see it/pay respects before it is developed.

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Reply #83 posted 09/12/19 6:54pm

laytonian

rogifan said:

mnfriend said:

rogifan said:


Looks like the cheapest models will start at $549,000 and some models will be close to $1M. eek

https://www.lennar.com/ne...n/the-park

....and if you click through to the features, you find that they have big-box store 'quality' fixtures and name brands. Ugh.
Typical subdivision 'you can choose only what we've pre-selected' BS.
https://www.lennar.com/im...r-8-26.pdf

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #84 posted 09/14/19 4:48pm

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Is there any truth to Walgreens and the hospital in Moline, have settled with the heirs in the civil suit?


And does anyone know what this Primary Wave thing is and who are they?

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Reply #85 posted 09/14/19 6:02pm

nelcp777

PennyPurple said:

Is there any truth to Walgreens and the hospital in Moline, have settled with the heirs in the civil suit?



And does anyone know what this Primary Wave thing is and who are they?


I thought Walgreens and Trinity were dismissed from the law suit and not settled. Isaid posted that info maybe?
As for Primary Wave, I googled them and they deal in publishing. They partnered with the Whitney Houston estate. Link https://primarywave.com/p...e-houston/

From the above article it sounds like they are investing heavily in artists for a return of ownership in copyrights, royalties, etc.

I wonder if the estate is looking in a deal similar to the Houston estate. They own Kurt Cobain’s works.
I do not think this is a good move for Prince’s legacy. This sounds more like a liquidating move.

Here is the link on the dismissal https://thedeathofprincer...dUmH1tWiJI
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Reply #86 posted 09/14/19 6:25pm

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This is what is being said.



Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
An agreement on a monetary settlement prompted dismissal of Walgreens and Trinity Medical from #Prince wrongful death suit. Judge ordered two corps tossed after being informed of a deal. Terms sealed forever, but I’ve asked. Hard to get nuances like this correct in ‘real’ time.

Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
Additionally, not even the judge knows terms of the out-of-court settlement reached between the Prince estate and Walgreens/Trinity Med Center.

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Reply #87 posted 09/14/19 6:39pm

nelcp777

PennyPurple said:

This is what is being said.




Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
An agreement on a monetary settlement prompted dismissal of Walgreens and Trinity Medical from #Prince wrongful death suit. Judge ordered two corps tossed after being informed of a deal. Terms sealed forever, but I’ve asked. Hard to get nuances like this correct in ‘real’ time.

Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
Additionally, not even the judge knows terms of the out-of-court settlement reached between the Prince estate and Walgreens/Trinity Med Center.


I saw that when I was trying to answer your inquiry. I was cautious cos it was linked to lipstick alley.
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Reply #88 posted 09/14/19 6:41pm

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nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

This is what is being said.



Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
An agreement on a monetary settlement prompted dismissal of Walgreens and Trinity Medical from #Prince wrongful death suit. Judge ordered two corps tossed after being informed of a deal. Terms sealed forever, but I’ve asked. Hard to get nuances like this correct in ‘real’ time.

Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
Additionally, not even the judge knows terms of the out-of-court settlement reached between the Prince estate and Walgreens/Trinity Med Center.

I saw that when I was trying to answer your inquiry. I was cautious cos it was linked to lipstick alley.

Yeah, don't know what to believe but it does make me wonder.

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Reply #89 posted 09/14/19 8:51pm

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nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

This is what is being said.



Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
An agreement on a monetary settlement prompted dismissal of Walgreens and Trinity Medical from #Prince wrongful death suit. Judge ordered two corps tossed after being informed of a deal. Terms sealed forever, but I’ve asked. Hard to get nuances like this correct in ‘real’ time.

Jay Corn‏ @Jay__Corn Sep 1
Additionally, not even the judge knows terms of the out-of-court settlement reached between the Prince estate and Walgreens/Trinity Med Center.

I saw that when I was trying to answer your inquiry. I was cautious cos it was linked to lipstick alley.



We dont know if it was an out of court settlement, because he didnt cite sources to confirm this information.

It could have been a settlement, but we dont know.

However, this is what happens more often than not...out of court settlements. The release will always state it is not an admission to culpability. It is cheaper to pay a nominal amount that is covered by insurance than to continue with litigation that may last years.

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