macaylasdad said:

PeteSilas said:

hendrix wasn't a great songwriter? Now that's an interesting take, hendrix's strengths were as a producer, writer, showman, composer and guitarist. In fact, his plan was to put the guitar down completely so he could become a "serious" composer, even planning to attend school for music. In a list of top artists, he's close with just about anyone in the rock era, including prince.

Is there really a Hendrix song written that everyone is like "whoa, that's amazing!" Ehhh, he wrote songs that complimented his style...for me that's about it. Again, I am not denying his talent, but he didn't do what Prince did...for me I like for the total package in an artist... Hendrix was good, but Prince was better.... IMO.

little wing, wind cries mary, it's just your opinion. Jimi was quite a package as an artist.

purplethunder3121 said:

Went through all this when Bowie died... Much of this happened on his fansite... Now, it's happening to this one. When the "music idol" passes away...it happens. People leave. New members show up. Or hardcore members struggle to keep up the interest. It really is up to the hardcore fans to keep interest going... Or an estate as dedicated as the Bowie estate. But, enough. Already been said. Still waiting to see what the estate will do...in time.

Bowie's estate has Iman. The Prince Estate does not have that person. I think Frank Zappa's estate does it well too with his son at the helm.

PeteSilas said:

macaylasdad said:

Is there really a Hendrix song written that everyone is like "whoa, that's amazing!" Ehhh, he wrote songs that complimented his style...for me that's about it. Again, I am not denying his talent, but he didn't do what Prince did...for me I like for the total package in an artist... Hendrix was good, but Prince was better.... IMO.

little wing, wind cries mary, it's just your opinion. Jimi was quite a package as an artist.

I just feel Prince was more verastile than Jimi as a musician and performer.... Wind Cries Mary is a good song...

macaylasdad said:

PeteSilas said:

little wing, wind cries mary, it's just your opinion. Jimi was quite a package as an artist.

I just feel Prince was more verastile than Jimi as a musician and performer.... Wind Cries Mary is a good song...

jimi broke more ground than just about anyone, a fact he doesn't get credit for.

The importance of Jimi is more than his technique or his songs. It's what it meant at the time and what it allowed to happen after. The same way that it is impossible to know what the Beatles meant if you just listen to their albums now.

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There are people now that run a lot faster than Jesse Owens. Doesn't mean they are better or have more of an impact.

mediumdry said:

The importance of Jimi is more than his technique or his songs. It's what it meant at the time and what it allowed to happen after. The same way that it is impossible to know what the Beatles meant if you just listen to their albums now.

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There are people now that run a lot faster than Jesse Owens. Doesn't mean they are better or have more of an impact.

Yup, it really is dependent on the context of the time...

mediumdry said:

The importance of Jimi is more than his technique or his songs. It's what it meant at the time and what it allowed to happen after. The same way that it is impossible to know what the Beatles meant if you just listen to their albums now.

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very good point.In many cases,you really had to be there to fully understand the impact and importance of some artists.

PeteSilas said:

macaylasdad said:

I just feel Prince was more verastile than Jimi as a musician and performer.... Wind Cries Mary is a good song...

jimi broke more ground than just about anyone, a fact he doesn't get credit for.

Pete you'll be proud, I heard a couple Hendrix songs in the bar the other, one being wind cries mary snd I even sang along to it. Jimi is not bad.

macaylasdad said:

PeteSilas said:

jimi broke more ground than just about anyone, a fact he doesn't get credit for.

Pete you'll be proud, I heard a couple Hendrix songs in the bar the other, one being wind cries mary snd I even sang along to it. Jimi is not bad.

Where you been?!! Hendrix has so many great songs...

purplethunder3121 said:

macaylasdad said:

Pete you'll be proud, I heard a couple Hendrix songs in the bar the other, one being wind cries mary snd I even sang along to it. Jimi is not bad.

Where you been?!! Hendrix has so many great songs...

haha... I was listening to Hendrix when I was 14 years old...I am almost 50 now....yes, he does have allot of good songs... But I am more of a Prince fan...

macaylasdad said:

PeteSilas said:

jimi broke more ground than just about anyone, a fact he doesn't get credit for.

Pete you'll be proud, I heard a couple Hendrix songs in the bar the other, one being wind cries mary snd I even sang along to it. Jimi is not bad.

that's wonderful, I'd probably try to learn some but i'm a pianist and i've heard little wing on piano once and it doesn't quite translate too well.

macaylasdad said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Where you been?!! Hendrix has so many great songs...

haha... I was listening to Hendrix when I was 14 years old...I am almost 50 now....yes, he does have allot of good songs... But I am more of a Prince fan...

Same here--older than you. Jimi has some undeniable classics...and obviously Prince got some of his groove from listening to Jimi...as well as other artists like James Brown, of course!

purplethunder3121 said:

macaylasdad said:

haha... I was listening to Hendrix when I was 14 years old...I am almost 50 now....yes, he does have allot of good songs... But I am more of a Prince fan...

Same here--older than you. Jimi has some undeniable classics...and obviously Prince got some of his groove from listening to Jimi...as well as other artists like James Brown, of course!

no question of the influences he had....he just took it to a whole other level!

macaylasdad said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Same here--older than you. Jimi has some undeniable classics...and obviously Prince got some of his groove from listening to Jimi...as well as other artists like James Brown, of course!

no question of the influences he had....he just took it to a whole other level!

Indeed!

MIInsane said:

YES, judging by the place, the same people repeating the same stuff year after year (definition of insanity apparently!)

It's like the daycare centre for a lunatic asylum sometimes although I think an asylum would have more sane people in it!

PeggyO said:

I think Frank Zappa's estate does it well too with his son at the helm.

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The Zappa estate was a mess for years. Utter shitshow.

BartVanHemelen said:

PeggyO said:

I think Frank Zappa's estate does it well too with his son at the helm.

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The Zappa estate was a mess for years. Utter shitshow.

I was referring to the more recent reconciliation of the siblings and a moving forward towards managing Frank's estate more successfully.

"Over the past few years, the children of the late Frank Zappa have been locked in an ugly, public feud over the handling of their father’s estate. Now, according to a statement from the Zappa kids–Moon Unit Zappa, Dweezil Zappa, Ahmet Zappa, and Diva Zappa–it looks like the siblings are finally ready to bury the hatchet and work together. On Tuesday, May 15, Dweezil posted a new statement to his website, noting “I just wanted to thank all of you once again for your support. I couldn’t do what I do without you!” in addition to deleting old posts about the family’s disagreements and his public arguments with Ahmet. The note reads:

Recently, we Zappa siblings (Diva, Ahmet and Dweezil) got together with the goal of resolving our differences. Once we sat down and actually listened to one another, we found a much greater understanding of each other’s intentions. We regret that our communication broke down and that things were misconstrued. It may be a bumpy road at times – we are a passionate Italian family – but we have decided to work toward privately discussing issues rather than using public forums and lawyers."

I just don't see Prince's siblings coming to an agreement like this one.

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PeggyO said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The Zappa estate was a mess for years. Utter shitshow.

I was referring to the more recent reconciliation of the siblings and a moving forward towards managing Frank's estate more successfully.

"Over the past few years, the children of the late Frank Zappa have been locked in an ugly, public feud over the handling of their father’s estate. Now, according to a statement from the Zappa kids–Moon Unit Zappa, Dweezil Zappa, Ahmet Zappa, and Diva Zappa–it looks like the siblings are finally ready to bury the hatchet and work together. On Tuesday, May 15, Dweezil posted a new statement to his website, noting “I just wanted to thank all of you once again for your support. I couldn’t do what I do without you!” in addition to deleting old posts about the family’s disagreements and his public arguments with Ahmet. The note reads:

Recently, we Zappa siblings (Diva, Ahmet and Dweezil) got together with the goal of resolving our differences. Once we sat down and actually listened to one another, we found a much greater understanding of each other’s intentions. We regret that our communication broke down and that things were misconstrued. It may be a bumpy road at times – we are a passionate Italian family – but we have decided to work toward privately discussing issues rather than using public forums and lawyers."

I just don't see Prince's siblings coming to an agreement like this one.

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i don't know, money causes all kinds of squabbles. but i don't think prince's siblings really have any business sense to begin with, you have the guy who was in an insane asylum and then you have tyka at the helm, who's been in and out of rehab when she wasn't walking the streets trying to feed her drug habit, I think they can be taken and cut out of the whole picture, lotta sharks out there. Jimi's family got fucked and only the intervention of a billionaire got the rights back to them.

PeteSilas said:

PeggyO said:

I was referring to the more recent reconciliation of the siblings and a moving forward towards managing Frank's estate more successfully.

"Over the past few years, the children of the late Frank Zappa have been locked in an ugly, public feud over the handling of their father’s estate. Now, according to a statement from the Zappa kids–Moon Unit Zappa, Dweezil Zappa, Ahmet Zappa, and Diva Zappa–it looks like the siblings are finally ready to bury the hatchet and work together. On Tuesday, May 15, Dweezil posted a new statement to his website, noting “I just wanted to thank all of you once again for your support. I couldn’t do what I do without you!” in addition to deleting old posts about the family’s disagreements and his public arguments with Ahmet. The note reads:

Recently, we Zappa siblings (Diva, Ahmet and Dweezil) got together with the goal of resolving our differences. Once we sat down and actually listened to one another, we found a much greater understanding of each other’s intentions. We regret that our communication broke down and that things were misconstrued. It may be a bumpy road at times – we are a passionate Italian family – but we have decided to work toward privately discussing issues rather than using public forums and lawyers."

I just don't see Prince's siblings coming to an agreement like this one.

[Edited 8/27/19 9:55am]

i don't know, money causes all kinds of squabbles. but i don't think prince's siblings really have any business sense to begin with, you have the guy who was in an insane asylum and then you have tyka at the helm, who's been in and out of rehab when she wasn't walking the streets trying to feed her drug habit, I think they can be taken and cut out of the whole picture, lotta sharks out there. Jimi's family got fucked and only the intervention of a billionaire got the rights back to them.

Wake me up when this is over...

I mean...Quincy said it himself. The Thriller song as we know it wouldnt exist without 1999.

AZStreet said:

I mean...Quincy said it himself. The Thriller song as we know it wouldnt exist without 1999.

Quincy also tried to paint Michael as a thief by saying he stole from "State of Indepence" to make "Billie Jean".

This while Quincy himself was producer on BOTH songs, but somehow he was TOTALLY CAUGHT OFF GUARD by "Billie Jean".

Meaning Quincy's take on things ain't worth a salt.

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Aren't most fans a bit crazy ?

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Question also is, how to defind 'crazy' and 'fan' here in this context.

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"'fan', or fanatic, sometimes also termed aficionado or supporter, is a person who is enthusiastically devoted to something or somebody..."

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So there you have it, 'enthusiastically devoted'.

But that can be on many levels.

We're all a bit different, right ?

It also has a lot to do with how grown up you are, how tollerant you are and how you behave towards other fan(atic)s.

Maybe there IS a crazy one here and there, who knows!?

So, about the crazy ones;

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"'crazy' is someone or something that is insane or not mentally sound.

An example of crazy is an idea that makes absolutely no sense.

An example of crazy is a person who is in a mental hospital and who is yelling, hallucinating and otherwise acting like they are insane ..."

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So there you have that; ...a person who is mental hospital and who is yelling, hallucinating and otherwise acting like they are insane.

I don't know any Prince fans personally that give answer to these descriptions.

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So, conclusion;

I think there are NO crazy Prince fans (on here, for now).

But,

hell they can be fanatic and devoted, and (very) opinionated.

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