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Reply #300 posted 09/11/19 1:08am

JorisE73

Graycap23 said:

It took them 3.5 years 2 finally get it right.

I'll take it.


I heared there were way more alternate versions and outtakes from that era that should be on a proper super deluxe edition, so this is a small step in the right direction compared to Purple Rain Deluxe, but a still a long way from getting it right.

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Reply #301 posted 09/11/19 1:14am

pricetag

Vannormal said:

pricetag said:



BartVanHemelen said:


Sheesh, a 9 minute video which somehow still manages to fail to include that Peggy McReary said that the long/unedited version of "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" is coming out soon: https://variety.com/2019/...203235532/


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Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?


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Oh, and the interview with Michael Howe wasn't with a Dutch magazine, it was with Humo, a Belgian magazine.




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Reply #302 posted 09/11/19 2:18am

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"Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?"

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Yes, the joy for the 1999 Deluxe release is completed by the fact that it is once again the BartVanHemelen's pompous messages turned out to be rancorous garbage.

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Reply #303 posted 09/11/19 2:55am

RODSERLING

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Reply #304 posted 09/11/19 3:16am

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RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:
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Even if you both agreed to the 'deal', it's hardly legally binding and nobody would be bothered if you both contiune to post here. Let's all forget about it, come together in the excitement for this release and just go about our business.

RIP sad
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Reply #305 posted 09/11/19 3:30am

OnlyNDaUsa

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FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying

well, you know...

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Reply #306 posted 09/11/19 3:34am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Strive said:

FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

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Reply #307 posted 09/11/19 3:37am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Strive said:


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

Yes i'm wondering about this as well. Or are they keeping up the incorrect info so people don't think it's the same as the Purple Rain reissue??


There's nothing i'd do with 10LPS aside from break my back carrying them around so definitely going for the CD version here.


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Reply #308 posted 09/11/19 3:47am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Strive said:


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

Possessed time runs around the same time as the boot, so most likely the same version. SOOOO looking forward to getting this in studio quality!

"I like to watch."
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Reply #309 posted 09/11/19 3:49am

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would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about? I mean I kind of like this better than just blanking out the rape lyric, or pretending the track doesn't exist entirely, and we already were inundated with tons of edits in lieu of genuine "full" versions on Originals, maybe test the waters a bit with a tasteful fade at the 4-5 minute mark.

I also don't get people thinking it's going to be more highlighted on a stand-alone release down the road. With that rape lyric a 5CD box is the perfect place to chuck it somewhere in the middle and hope nobody freaks out or if they do the other content dilutes their outrage, any other context is just going to put even more social commentators on red alert.

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Reply #310 posted 09/11/19 3:52am

jaawwnn

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I'm a big fan of the 7" edit of Let's Pretend We're Married. I admit I won't be playing that cd in its entirety more than once probably but I'm still happy it's there.

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Reply #311 posted 09/11/19 4:17am

OnlyNDaUsa

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jaawwnn said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

Yes i'm wondering about this as well. Or are they keeping up the incorrect info so people don't think it's the same as the Purple Rain reissue??


There's nothing i'd do with 10LPS aside from break my back carrying them around so definitely going for the CD version here.


Yeah I assume it is the 83 version with the "puts up such a fuss" but that was recorded (at least worked on) 15 May 83. Duane Tudahl's book says the song had been around for a while. But the time listed in the book is 8:46 and the one on this set is said to be 8:47...

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Reply #312 posted 09/11/19 4:22am

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WhisperingDandelions said:

would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about? I mean I kind of like this better than just blanking out the rape lyric, or pretending the track doesn't exist entirely, and we already were inundated with tons of edits in lieu of genuine "full" versions on Originals, maybe test the waters a bit with a tasteful fade at the 4-5 minute mark.

I also don't get people thinking it's going to be more highlighted on a stand-alone release down the road. With that rape lyric a 5CD box is the perfect place to chuck it somewhere in the middle and hope nobody freaks out or if they do the other content dilutes their outrage, any other context is just going to put even more social commentators on red alert.

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I agree that if it was going to be released at all, a super deluxe set for hardcore fans that would never complain about it would be the perfect way to smuggle it out.

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I think the sad reality is that WB want to draw zero attention to this song even existing. Same goes for 'Lust U Always'. If they release an edited version it'll only aggravate the fans and draw more attention to it.

.

Even in an unreleased state, there is still a risk that one day it'll offend the wrong blue check mark on Twitter and WB / Sony will have a hurricane of piss to clear up.

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The best we can all hope for now is a really good leak. If a 'Box O Chocolates' quality version ever dropped that would be some conciliation at this point.

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Reply #313 posted 09/11/19 4:26am

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https://www.rhino.com/art...d-expanded

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Note that if you want the concert video, you'll need to buy the DVD; it will NOT be included in the digital downloads.

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Reply #314 posted 09/11/19 4:34am

feeluupp

So some new info on the 1999 Reissue.

Apparently there will be 6 DIFFERENT VERSIONS RELEASED:

VIA Rock It Poole:

Further to our post on Monday we now have permission to share the FULL details of all SIX versions of the 1999 reissue coming November 29th. (Prices & Pre Orders will be live later today)

Super Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 10LP+DVD 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on mylar board • 36 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 4x gatefold 2LP jackets and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 10x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Super Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 5CD+DVD
2-piece box on mylar board • 48 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 6x gatefold wallets • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 4LP 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on outer mylar board • 1x gatefold 2LP jacket and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 4x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 2CD
8 panel softpack gatefold sleeve on mylar board • 16 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered Vinyl Edition
Format: 2LP 180g Purple vinyl
(limited edition – 25k worldwide – after which reverting to black vinyl)
1x wide spine 2LP jacket on outer mylar board • 2x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered CD Edition
Remastered
Format: 1CD
4 panel softpack gatefold sleeve • 8 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

This November 29, The Prince Estate, in partnership with Warner Records, will reissue the timeless 1999 album, remastered for the very first time, along with 35 previously unreleased tracks from Prince’s legendary vault that showcase the creative flow Prince had tapped into during this era.

The 1999 Super Deluxe Edition represents the deepest dive to date into Prince’s vault and includes a total of 65 audio tracks across 10 LPs.

The Super Deluxe Edition brings fans all the audio material that Prince officially released in and around 1982, as well as 23 previously unissued studio tracks recorded between November 1981 and January 1983, and a complete live audio performance of the 1999 tour recorded at the late show (the second of two that day) in Detroit, MI on November 30, 1982. In addition, this vinyl set boasts a brand-new DVD containing another complete, previously unreleased concert from the 1999 tour, recorded in multi-cam live at the Houston Summit on December 29, 1982.

The Super Deluxe Edition set also features Prince’s previously unseen handwritten lyrics for several songs from the era, including the hit “Little Red Corvette,” plus images of the analog tape reels from the vault and rare photography from Prince’s early ‘80s photographer, Allen Beaulieu. The Super Deluxe Edition is completed with brand-new liner notes by longtime Rolling Stone critic David Fricke, revered Guns N’ Roses bassist and author Duff McKagan, Minneapolis historian and radio host Andrea Swensson, and Prince scholar Duane Tudahl.

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Reply #315 posted 09/11/19 4:40am

RODSERLING

Is there any hint if there would be a "lead single" to promote this with a music video a la Holly Rock?
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What would be your choice ?
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Will there be a documentary about the making of the album, its reception, its influence and legacy, etc?
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Something to reach a bigger audience than just the fans?
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Reply #316 posted 09/11/19 4:41am

jaawwnn

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A little disappointed the 1983 version of Wonderful Ass isn't on there, a little; I think it's superior to the the 1984 version. A minor complaint though.



RODSERLING said:

Is there any hint if there would be a "lead single" to promote this with a music video a la Holly Rock? . What would be your choice ? . Will there be a documentary about the making of the album, its reception, its influence and legacy, etc? . Something to reach a bigger audience than just the fans?

I think they've maybe realised that trying to reach a larger audience in 2019 with 35 year old songs is a bit of a dumb idea and they're trying to give more to the people who actually buy this stuff. His autobio will be out though, and he'll still be dead when Netflix finish their documentary.


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Reply #317 posted 09/11/19 4:44am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

So some new info on the 1999 Reissue.






Apparently there will be 6 DIFFERENT VERSIONS RELEASED:






VIA Rock It Poole:






Further to our post on Monday we now have permission to share the FULL details of all SIX versions of the 1999 reissue coming November 29th. (Prices & Pre Orders will be live later today)


Super Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 10LP+DVD 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on mylar board • 36 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 4x gatefold 2LP jackets and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 10x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker



Super Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 5CD+DVD
2-piece box on mylar board • 48 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 6x gatefold wallets • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 4LP 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on outer mylar board • 1x gatefold 2LP jacket and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 4x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 2CD
8 panel softpack gatefold sleeve on mylar board • 16 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Remastered Vinyl Edition
Format: 2LP 180g Purple vinyl
(limited edition – 25k worldwide – after which reverting to black vinyl)
1x wide spine 2LP jacket on outer mylar board • 2x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Remastered CD Edition
Remastered
Format: 1CD
4 panel softpack gatefold sleeve • 8 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


This November 29, The Prince Estate, in partnership with Warner Records, will reissue the timeless 1999 album, remastered for the very first time, along with 35 previously unreleased tracks from Prince’s legendary vault that showcase the creative flow Prince had tapped into during this era.


The 1999 Super Deluxe Edition represents the deepest dive to date into Prince’s vault and includes a total of 65 audio tracks across 10 LPs.


The Super Deluxe Edition brings fans all the audio material that Prince officially released in and around 1982, as well as 23 previously unissued studio tracks recorded between November 1981 and January 1983, and a complete live audio performance of the 1999 tour recorded at the late show (the second of two that day) in Detroit, MI on November 30, 1982. In addition, this vinyl set boasts a brand-new DVD containing another complete, previously unreleased concert from the 1999 tour, recorded in multi-cam live at the Houston Summit on December 29, 1982.


The Super Deluxe Edition set also features Prince’s previously unseen handwritten lyrics for several songs from the era, including the hit “Little Red Corvette,” plus images of the analog tape reels from the vault and rare photography from Prince’s early ‘80s photographer, Allen Beaulieu. The Super Deluxe Edition is completed with brand-new liner notes by longtime Rolling Stone critic David Fricke, revered Guns N’ Roses bassist and author Duff McKagan, Minneapolis historian and radio host Andrea Swensson, and Prince scholar Duane Tudahl.










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Strange they decide now to release the 6 versions the same day, whereas for Originals they released the deluxe and vinyl version one month later.
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Reply #318 posted 09/11/19 4:48am

Cloudbuster

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langebleu said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

It's a MAGNIFICENT album to pull U into the purple kingdom. Even though it was Prince's(r.i.p.) fourth album.


It was Prince's fifth album.

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lol

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Reply #319 posted 09/11/19 5:06am

massing

feeluupp said:

So some new info on the 1999 Reissue.

Apparently there will be 6 DIFFERENT VERSIONS RELEASED:

VIA Rock It Poole:

Further to our post on Monday we now have permission to share the FULL details of all SIX versions of the 1999 reissue coming November 29th. (Prices & Pre Orders will be live later today)

Super Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 10LP+DVD 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on mylar board • 36 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 4x gatefold 2LP jackets and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 10x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Super Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 5CD+DVD
2-piece box on mylar board • 48 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 6x gatefold wallets • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 4LP 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on outer mylar board • 1x gatefold 2LP jacket and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 4x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 2CD
8 panel softpack gatefold sleeve on mylar board • 16 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered Vinyl Edition
Format: 2LP 180g Purple vinyl
(limited edition – 25k worldwide – after which reverting to black vinyl)
1x wide spine 2LP jacket on outer mylar board • 2x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered CD Edition
Remastered
Format: 1CD
4 panel softpack gatefold sleeve • 8 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

This November 29, The Prince Estate, in partnership with Warner Records, will reissue the timeless 1999 album, remastered for the very first time, along with 35 previously unreleased tracks from Prince’s legendary vault that showcase the creative flow Prince had tapped into during this era.

The 1999 Super Deluxe Edition represents the deepest dive to date into Prince’s vault and includes a total of 65 audio tracks across 10 LPs.

The Super Deluxe Edition brings fans all the audio material that Prince officially released in and around 1982, as well as 23 previously unissued studio tracks recorded between November 1981 and January 1983, and a complete live audio performance of the 1999 tour recorded at the late show (the second of two that day) in Detroit, MI on November 30, 1982. In addition, this vinyl set boasts a brand-new DVD containing another complete, previously unreleased concert from the 1999 tour, recorded in multi-cam live at the Houston Summit on December 29, 1982.

The Super Deluxe Edition set also features Prince’s previously unseen handwritten lyrics for several songs from the era, including the hit “Little Red Corvette,” plus images of the analog tape reels from the vault and rare photography from Prince’s early ‘80s photographer, Allen Beaulieu. The Super Deluxe Edition is completed with brand-new liner notes by longtime Rolling Stone critic David Fricke, revered Guns N’ Roses bassist and author Duff McKagan, Minneapolis historian and radio host Andrea Swensson, and Prince scholar Duane Tudahl.

It's a shame they're not doing a 'vault tracks only' vinyl version. I already have the original album on vinyl and I have no interest at all in getting those edits on vinyl.

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Reply #320 posted 09/11/19 5:12am

feeluupp

Honestly I wish they could just do one big box set like the Bowie sets so it doesn't make it so confusing for the fans to buy so many different versions with different booklets, etc...

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Reply #321 posted 09/11/19 5:14am

jaypotton

At last a proper super deluxe treatment for Prince. Looks great. Yes two missing songs but "reasons". Just hoping sound quality is top notch.

I can only hope and dream we get a few more like this, at very least Parade and SOTT.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #322 posted 09/11/19 5:14am

JorisE73

VaultCurator said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about? I mean I kind of like this better than just blanking out the rape lyric, or pretending the track doesn't exist entirely, and we already were inundated with tons of edits in lieu of genuine "full" versions on Originals, maybe test the waters a bit with a tasteful fade at the 4-5 minute mark.

I also don't get people thinking it's going to be more highlighted on a stand-alone release down the road. With that rape lyric a 5CD box is the perfect place to chuck it somewhere in the middle and hope nobody freaks out or if they do the other content dilutes their outrage, any other context is just going to put even more social commentators on red alert.

.

I agree that if it was going to be released at all, a super deluxe set for hardcore fans that would never complain about it would be the perfect way to smuggle it out.

.

I think the sad reality is that WB want to draw zero attention to this song even existing. Same goes for 'Lust U Always'. If they release an edited version it'll only aggravate the fans and draw more attention to it.

.

Even in an unreleased state, there is still a risk that one day it'll offend the wrong blue check mark on Twitter and WB / Sony will have a hurricane of piss to clear up.

.

The best we can all hope for now is a really good leak. If a 'Box O Chocolates' quality version ever dropped that would be some conciliation at this point.


I doubt the reason they left Extraloveable off is becuase of the rape lyrics, the song is readily available online for years and noone cares, so why not release it on the deluxe version of teh album it's supposed to be on??

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Reply #323 posted 09/11/19 5:18am

MattUK

jaypotton said:

At last a proper super deluxe treatment for Prince. Looks great. Yes two missing songs but "reasons". Just hoping sound quality is top notch. I can only hope and dream we get a few more like this, at very least Parade and SOTT.

yeahthat

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Reply #324 posted 09/11/19 5:26am

jaawwnn

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JorisE73 said:

VaultCurator said:

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I agree that if it was going to be released at all, a super deluxe set for hardcore fans that would never complain about it would be the perfect way to smuggle it out.

.

I think the sad reality is that WB want to draw zero attention to this song even existing. Same goes for 'Lust U Always'. If they release an edited version it'll only aggravate the fans and draw more attention to it.

.

Even in an unreleased state, there is still a risk that one day it'll offend the wrong blue check mark on Twitter and WB / Sony will have a hurricane of piss to clear up.

.

The best we can all hope for now is a really good leak. If a 'Box O Chocolates' quality version ever dropped that would be some conciliation at this point.


I doubt the reason they left Extraloveable off is becuase of the rape lyrics, the song is readily available online for years and noone cares, so why not release it on the deluxe version of teh album it's supposed to be on??

because "readily online" and "released" are very different things. There's still oodles of things left to be released on the 50th anniversary relese.

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Reply #325 posted 09/11/19 5:28am

dave1dmarx

WhisperingDandelions said:

would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about?

Only problem with that idea is that the edits disc is already 78-plus minutes long and therefore unable to hold another song.

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Reply #326 posted 09/11/19 5:31am

jaypotton

Extraloveable is a great song but I imagine any archivist going through vault and hearing the rape lyric would just go "no, just no". Heck even Prince left it in the vault and re-recorded it before releasing it.

Much as I am a completist I am not that bothered by it being excluded.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #327 posted 09/11/19 5:40am

JorisE73

jaawwnn said:

JorisE73 said:


I doubt the reason they left Extraloveable off is becuase of the rape lyrics, the song is readily available online for years and noone cares, so why not release it on the deluxe version of teh album it's supposed to be on??

because "readily online" and "released" are very different things. There's still oodles of things left to be released on the 50th anniversary relese.


Well yeah.
The point is if the Estate is scared of the SJW's or the MeToo cronies because of these lyrics then thats pretty sad because if these groups wanted to complain about it they would have already.

and even if they didn't find the song, they will now when everyone complains that it isn't on the new release and attract attention to it and even mention that the lyrics could be a problem and mentions rape.

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Reply #328 posted 09/11/19 5:47am

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Yeah maybe, but most people aren't paying attention to that stuff. I suppose there's the potential for it blowing up if enough eyes get on it and thinkpieces in the right hands are written up. Official *sanctioned* releases would make this more likely over obscure outtakes.

It's all very silly, he's expressing an emotion, and not a pleasant one, but they're songs not witness statements. I think they should be released myself but I can see why those compiling this are nixing them. Honestly he covered all of this in Electric Chair, anytime anyone asks me about his personal life I just tell them to consider Prince cancelled and then work from there deciding whether or not they want to like his music shrug


[Edited 9/11/19 5:50am]

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Reply #329 posted 09/11/19 5:57am

VaultCurator

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jaypotton said:

"Much as I am a completist I am not that bothered by it being excluded."

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lol Not the most committed completist then.
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It's cool. I understand. This quote just amused me. wink

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