Since the first thread was getting way tooooo long I have created this thread to continue the discussion

1st thread - https://prince.org/msg/7/459188

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"Originals" #PRINCE set to be released via @wbr & @tidal on June 7th exclusive to Tidal then a physical cd release June 21st with vinyl a month later.

Song Title First Released by (Artist: Album – year) Year of Prince’s Recording Included on Originals

1. Sex Shooter Apollonia 6: Apollonia 6 – 1984 1983

2. Jungle Love The Time: Ice Cream Castle – 1984 1983

3. Manic Monday The Bangles: Different Light – 1985 1984

4. Noon Rendezvous Sheila E.: The Glamorous Life – 1984 1984

5. Make-Up Vanity 6: Vanity 6 – 1982 1981

6. 100 MPH Mazarati: Mazarati – 1986 1984

7. You’re My Love Kenny Rogers: They Don’t Make Them Like They Used To – 1986 1982

8. Holly Rock Sheila E.: Krush Groove (OST) – 1985 1985

9. Baby, You’re a Trip Jill Jones: Jill Jones – 1987 1982

10. The Glamorous Life Sheila E.: The Glamorous Life – 1984 1983

11. Gigolos Get Lonely Too The Time: What Time Is It? – 1982 1982

12. Love… Thy Will Be Done Martika: Martika’s Kitchen – 1991 1991

13. Dear Michaelangelo Sheila E.: Romance 1600 – 1985 1985

14. Wouldn’t You Love to Love Me? Taja Sevelle: Taja Sevelle – 1987 1981

15. Nothing Compares 2 U The Family: The Family – 1985 1984

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wondering how the estate would think this would be a big seller to non-prince fans

jfenster said:

rdhull said:

soladeo1 said:

I am loving this very much! "Baby, You're a Trip" was mind-blowing.

What a great gift for today!

I've listened to it a few times today. So far, I like it a lot. A lot more than I liked Piano & A Microphone.

I've read the Frankenstein theories (which are probably true in many cases) but I'm leaving that for the more qualified people to hash out.

I'll be buying it, if for nothing else than for the Prince vocals alone.

Yes several of the songs are mixed from the multi-track masters. this was covered in one of interviews here. They said they had to as the tapes they had were not as good as they would have liked. If they would have they may have sounded even more like bootlegs... and then we would be crying over that.

We all know the truth. I doubt I will ever completely agree with any release... but I have to step back and remember that it is what it is... and be happy.

Shot review: I love the album. Stop. Except Would You Love to Love Me, for sounds reason.

But I was wondering:
The thing that worried me is the low quality of so many songs: the voice in the songs of The Time, the cymbals in 100MPH, the whole Wouldn't You Love To Love Me ...

Why the songs of the eighties put by Prince in Crystal Ball or Splash had excellent sounds, while these are imperfect? The fear is that many songs that we were listening in low quality via bootleg, exist *only* in low quality, and Prince cared little for his past materials.

Either the Estate is incompetent, or the Vault is not the paradise we hoped for.

What do you think?

Strive said:

It's interesting how the leaked version of The Glamorous Life is 8:05 Wish we got the full version of that and Sex Shooter. Outside of those two, I'm really enjoying Originals. It should be a good gateway for people that only know Prince in passing.

One thing I meant to check out on this version of The Glamorouse Life: does this version have the part where Prince kinda misses his lyrics in the beginning of the 2nd verse?

This a good release for die hards, which I used to be until about the year 2000. Qualitywise it's hit and miss tho'. For every gem ("Love They Will be Done") you have a flat, subpar take that should have stayed in the vault ("Manic Monday"). I'll cherry pick the tunes I like but overall this is the kind of album I'd probably only listen to three times. Let's hope they do better with the next release. It's medicore. In just about every case these versions are inferior to the better known versions.

"P&A 1983" I think was special because ut captured Prince in a private, lowkey setting. This? Meh.

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I'm very greatful for this. Cannot wait to own a physical copy

1. 100MPH: loving the extra guitar work ****
2. Baby You're A Trip: -is cool, never got into before, a good vocal workout, I enjoy hearing Prince singing the 'spoken' part **
3. Dear Michaelangelo: -always loved the song, love hearing the extra instrumentations, loving the drumming/linn. The opening I love, a combination of this and the released version would be perfection *****
4. Gigolos Get Lonely Too -Morris definately did a better job vocally, but this is one of very rare times we hear Prince singing lead on a Time piece ***
5. Holly Rock -never cared for the song so much, but loving this with the extra Minni sound and the use of the Romance 1600 band, it's wilder. I wish he would not have pulled back on the released version *****
6. Jungle Love -eh **
7. Love-Thy Will Be Done -nice, has that airy 90s feel with a touch of Batman-esque
8. Make Up -always loved this one, Susan or Prince great song *****
9. Manic Monday -should have been released through the Prince camp, and this confirms it even more
10. Noon Rendezvous -enjoy the evolution, simple cool ***
11. NC2U -heard before, I like the PR era sound ***
12. Sex Shooter -enjoy the evolution, nothing to shout about ***
13. The Glamorous Life -enjoy the evolution, Sheila E kicks it up 5 notches ***
14. Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me -I LOVE this, the feel of that 79/80 period with some extra purple electricity and pump *****
15. My Love is 4Ever -I actually appreciate this, feels like a 1977 demo ***

rdhull said:

soladeo1 said:

I think they’re pretty excited at interest and enthusiasm, frankly. And even better - the critical reaction has been rapturous!

Ok but that doesn’t exactly mean what I asked. I understand it’s getting marketing push that’s better than previous releases which shows they have faith in the release, etc but I dont think they are expecting blockbuster [Edited 6/7/19 9:37am]

Most of the releases so far have focused on a very narrow time in Prince's career. Call it the "Purple Era" if you will.

- Moonbeam Levels on 4Ever
- Purple Rain Deluxe
- NC2U
- Piano & A Microphone 1983
- Originals

The Estate is probably thinking (and maybe rightfully so?) that this is what the masses want to hear. Anything related to when Prince was the most commercially viable. 1983 and 1984.

I really like the album. Favourites so far, Manic Monday, Noon Rendezvous, Baby you're a Trip (the ending, wow!) and Love..thy will be done. I like the whistle in The Glamorous Life. Some strange choices, like Make-up, Holly Rock,Dear Michaelangelo where would prefered others songs. But I think the idea was to show his diversity.

Se7en said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

Shot review: I love the album. Stop. Except Would You Love to Love Me, for sounds reason.

But I was wondering:
The thing that worried me is the low quality of so many songs: the voice in the songs of The Time, the cymbals in 100MPH, the whole Wouldn't You Love To Love Me ...

Why the songs of the eighties put by Prince in Crystal Ball or Splash had excellent sounds, while these are imperfect? The fear is that many songs that we were listening in low quality via bootleg, exist *only* in low quality, and Prince cared little for his past materials.

Either the Estate is incompetent, or the Vault is not the paradise we hoped for.

What do you think?

Most of the songs on Crystal Ball were planned for an album at some point, so they were mastered properly. Most of the songs on Originals were just meant as guides, that's why they sound quiet and "flat" at times.

Your My Love and Wouldn't You Love To Love me are making me wish for a Pop rock album from 1981/82.

I love this time when I have a new Prince album, it was a long day at work waiting to be able listen again after my intial very early morning listen on my drive into work.

I'm really digging this joint..........it's like bringing these songs back 2 life and adding a limb or 2.

My physical copy (which would flow)

1. Sex Shooter

2. Jungle Love

3. Manic Monday

4. Noon Rendezvous

5. G. Spot

6. The Bird

7. If I love U 2 night

8. Nasty Girl

9. Sugar Walls

10. Mutiny

11. Cool

12. Baby you're a trip

13. The Glamorous Life

14 The screams of Passion

15 Nothing compares 2 U

billymeade said:

Most of the songs on Crystal Ball were planned for an album at some point, so they were mastered properly. Most of the songs on Originals were just meant as guides, that's why they sound quiet and "flat" at times.

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Good answer, thank you.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I'm very greatful for this. Cannot wait to own a physical copy

1. 100MPH: loving the extra guitar work ****
2. Baby You're A Trip: -is cool, never got into before, a good vocal workout, I enjoy hearing Prince singing the 'spoken' part **
3. Dear Michaelangelo: -always loved the song, love hearing the extra instrumentations, loving the drumming/linn. The opening I love, a combination of this and the released version would be perfection *****
4. Gigolos Get Lonely Too -Morris definately did a better job vocally, but this is one of very rare times we hear Prince singing lead on a Time piece ***
5. Holly Rock -never cared for the song so much, but loving this with the extra Minni sound and the use of the Romance 1600 band, it's wilder. I wish he would not have pulled back on the released version *****
6. Jungle Love -eh **
7. Love-Thy Will Be Done -nice, has that airy 90s feel with a touch of Batman-esque
8. Make Up -always loved this one, Susan or Prince great song *****
9. Manic Monday -should have been released through the Prince camp, and this confirms it even more
10. Noon Rendezvous -enjoy the evolution, simple cool ***
11. NC2U -heard before, I like the PR era sound ***
12. Sex Shooter -enjoy the evolution, nothing to shout about ***
13. The Glamorous Life -enjoy the evolution, Sheila E kicks it up 5 notches ***
14. Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me -I LOVE this, the feel of that 79/80 period with some extra purple electricity and pump *****
15. My Love is 4Ever -I actually appreciate this, feels like a 1977 demo ***

If Nothing Compares 2 U is the same version that was released as a single a few months ago, I'm really curious about the Cinematic Remix.

fabriziovenerandi said:

Why the songs of the eighties put by Prince in Crystal Ball or Splash had excellent sounds

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CB was brickwalled to death.

I do like this album for what it is, but it's been 3 years I'm ready for the unreleased properly finished and mastered tracks that Prince himself was happy with...... e.g.

Turn Me Loose

We Live 2 Get Funky

Welcome 2 America

Born To Die

Adonis & Bathsheba

Same Page, Different Book

Check The Record

All My Dreams

In A Large Room With No Light

The Grand Progression

Days Of Wild (Studio)

Others Here With Us

Prince & The Band

Train

And the list continues.........

JAYJOE said:

I do like this album for what it is, but it's been 3 years I'm ready for the unreleased properly finished and mastered tracks that Prince himself was happy with...... e.g.

Turn Me Loose

We Live 2 Get Funky

Welcome 2 America

Born To Die

Adonis & Bathsheba

Same Page, Different Book

Check The Record

All My Dreams

In A Large Room With No Light

The Grand Progression

Days Of Wild (Studio)

Others Here With Us

Prince & The Band

Train

And the list continues.........

There are all great but I really want stuff we don't already have and haven't even heard of. A lot of these are already out and about in general circulation in excellent quality.

Wasn't Same Page Different Book an official release?

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Really loving this collection so far. Such a shame to have it as Tidal exclusive on June 7th, I'd have loved to go out and buy a physical copy of it today of all days. Anyway, let's hope they do a second volume.

ian said:

Really loving this collection so far. Such a shame to have it as Tidal exclusive on June 7th, I'd have loved to go out and buy a physical copy of it today of all days. Anyway, let's hope they do a second volume.

Exactly