i definitely considered this too, we now know how much he perused the org here, god knows why, and it was filled with vileness. I even think it could be a combination of things, god, a lover, a disease, the fans,even his own conscience, it's anything but clear and a fine job as a songwriter. One thing for sure, it's a sincere apology and that goes a long ways for me as a fan who always thought he did some mean stuff to his own circle. I wish I could tell him that he wasn't alone, many people have horrid things they've done that they feel badly about, whether it's treatment of family, treatment of strangers or what have you. [Edited 7/26/19 12:30pm] | |
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I just listened to his performance of this song at the first P&M show at PP January 2016. * He sang, "There's a door that you can walk through baby, where there used to be a wall. Ask me anything, as long as you catch me girl, whenever there's a fall, whenever there's a fall. I don't expect there will be...not anytime, not anytime soon (oohs and screeches)...down, down, down...ask me anything, I know you want to ask me...anything...whatever it is, the answer is YES."
*Edited for more detail... [Edited 7/26/19 15:41pm] | |
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"if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" | |
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It's one of my all-time favourite screams, by anyone. Makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck every time. | |
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the drunk portion of the song certainly did not sound like what we all knew of the man, songwriting is often fiction pointing to a truth though, that's how I see art. | |
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Genesia said:
Yes. This was my interpretation, too, right after the first listen. Even more after I read he had dropped the hint “Diamonds and Pearls” wasn’t a love song. It’s one of his “Sunday songs” written (perhaps) from the perspective of God speaking to the listener. | |
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That's the great thing about Prince songs - or any good writing or poetry. It doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" | |
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I agree with you 100% on this. Was wondering when someone else would understand this, thanks! Good morning children...take a look out your window, the world is falling... | |
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I would agree whole heartedly with the idea that Prince is speaking to God in this song if I had not heard several of his live performances of the song - in 2014, 2015 and 2016. In every performance he distinctly and specifically references a woman by singing the words “baby”, “darlin” and “girl” during a crucial part of the song. In all of his career he always used lyrics to distinguish between God and a woman or man. He would never use a human term to represent Jesus or God. * I think the most likely idea is that God, life, and relationships all had finally broken him down to the point where he could now be open and vulnerable in a relationship, and he was expressing that to a woman or women in general. | |
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Yeah, luckily Prince was so good - even a woman or a heathen can get something out of it. (sarcasm) "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" | |
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I’m often amazed and amused at how often people believe that Prince was purposely obscure with his message when in realty he was usually quite blatant while using creative phrasing and wordplay. | |
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Prince was way less dogmatic in general than many of his fans - from what I can tell. "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" | |
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Prince stated, “if you want to know about my life listen to my music. It’s all there.” Prince told his own life stories and also expressed his views on love, sex, politics, religion, and race through his songs. His genius was that he could do it so creatively and artistically which resulted in fans deriving their own meaning and/or relating it to their own lives. * He also repeated some of the same stories through the years - Still Waiting says the same thing as Still Would Stand All Time. Sexy MF, P Control, and Greatest Romance - as Prince himself stated - are saying the same thing, but with new lyrics and music. He said, “What people get out of it is what they get out of it.” * Again, his genius was using clever and unique phrasing to tell common or often simple stories. | |
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the one issue i have with it being god, or just, is that it's not like spirituality was anything new for Prince, he had been spiritual all his life. also, as someone pointed out, the darling, baby, that he used could just have been a songwriters device for his subject. It's anything but clear. | |
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PeteSilas said: the one issue i have with it being god, or just, is that it's not like spirituality was anything new for Prince, he had been spiritual all his life. also, as someone pointed out, the darling, baby, that he used could just have been a songwriters device for his subject. It's anything but clear. Anything is possible, but I don’t think there is an example of him using the “baby”, “darling”, and most obvious - “girl” terms to represent something other than a woman. I think if one is able to listen to his performance of the song at the Jan 21st P&M show at PP it becomes very clear that he is speaking to a woman or women in general. He ad libs the lyrics “ask me anything girl, ask me anything, the answer is YES”. It’s an amazing performance. That entire show is so beautiful and heartfelt. [Edited 7/28/19 17:28pm] | |
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[Edited 7/28/19 17:41pm] "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" | |
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poppys said:
[Edited 7/28/19 17:41pm] [Edited 7/28/19 19:34pm] | |
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My first thought was that it's about God, but when he says, girl, darlin' etc, I think it's about a girl (woman). She is more than his love, she's a friend who helped him deal with personal issues. | |
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The journal full of numbers is not about women's phone numbers, I think it is about the "numbers" he used in his songs. [Edited 9/2/19 21:44pm] | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
The journal full of numbers is not about women's phone numbers, I think it is about the "numbers" he used in his songs. [Edited 9/2/19 21:44pm] The number of girls he went through. | |
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When I first heard the song, it didn't really do much for me, but after a second listen, I was like "wow, so beautiful". Kinda sad though. Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above~
The only Love there is, is the Love We Make~ Prince4Ever | |
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feeluupp said:
Umm... A few members messaged me about that snip, as they were shocked why it got snipped...
My exact post about was the song sounded a bit flat.
Have no idea why you snipped that.
Yes I felt his vocal range and the overall sound of the song sounded flat. Yes. His performance of this at Montreux 2013 was the only time I heard him sing flat. I think the emotion wasn’t there as strongly as when he wrote it. | |
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He was crying at the end of that song at Montreux 2013. | |
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violetcrush said: I would agree whole heartedly with the idea that Prince is speaking to God in this song if I had not heard several of his live performances of the song - in 2014, 2015 and 2016. In every performance he distinctly and specifically references a woman by singing the words “baby”, “darlin” and “girl” during a crucial part of the song. In all of his career he always used lyrics to distinguish between God and a woman or man. He would never use a human term to represent Jesus or God. * I think the most likely idea is that God, life, and relationships all had finally broken him down to the point where he could now be open and vulnerable in a relationship, and he was expressing that to a woman or women in general. Exactly. I think “someone” had walked away and when that happened that is when Prince would pursue. I don’t consider this love. | |
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TheTruth123 said: violetcrush said: I would agree whole heartedly with the idea that Prince is speaking to God in this song if I had not heard several of his live performances of the song - in 2014, 2015 and 2016. In every performance he distinctly and specifically references a woman by singing the words “baby”, “darlin” and “girl” during a crucial part of the song. In all of his career he always used lyrics to distinguish between God and a woman or man. He would never use a human term to represent Jesus or God. * I think the most likely idea is that God, life, and relationships all had finally broken him down to the point where he could now be open and vulnerable in a relationship, and he was expressing that to a woman or women in general. Exactly. I think “someone” had walked away and when that happened that is when Prince would pursue. I don’t consider this love. I don’t think he really wanted to remain with that someone. But when she played games and acted like she didn’t care, she knew that was the way to get Prince. That’s why she’s been so quiet. She doesn’t want to be blamed. I’m saying this because I’m beyond sick of her attention-getting social media. And how she doesn’t say anything but does say a lot about P, passive aggressively. One other thing. When I saw the title of this thread, I knew it was bait To bring up that subject again.. It’s not the first time that’s happened. | |
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I need to find that performance, its a heavy song to listen to along with "Way Back Home". You guys gave different & great perspectives, but one thing in common is how emotionally charged both songs are. | |
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TheTruth123 said: TheTruth123 said: Exactly. I think “someone” had walked away and when that happened that is when Prince would pursue. I don’t consider this love. I don’t think he really wanted to remain with that someone. But when she played games and acted like she didn’t care, she knew that was the way to get Prince. That’s why she’s been so quiet. She doesn’t want to be blamed. I’m saying this because I’m beyond sick of her attention-getting social media. And how she doesn’t say anything but does say a lot about P, passive aggressively. One other thing. When I saw the title of this thread, I knew it was bait To bring up that subject again.. It’s not the first time that’s happened. Who is the “she/her” to which you are referring?? If the song is communicating to a woman it could be someone specific or just women in general. | |
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