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Thread started 04/22/03 8:00pm

brownie20

nona gets deep about prince

Did anyone happen to read the ESSENCE interview with Nona Gaye? she talks about her 'relationship' with prince when she was 18, he really comes off like an asshole.
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Reply #1 posted 04/22/03 8:11pm

brownie20

Nona: ...(Prince) was not stable. And I wasnt either. I was still into drugs big time.I never really knew him, and I never let him really know me. I tried to be this woman I thought he wanted, very passive, just letting him lead. He was 16 years older than me. He told a friend of mine he was going to marry me and take care of me. I knew I wouldn't get anything better than that from him, so I believed it. But after that we were in New York, and he asked me to come see his show. Mayte, one of his dancers, flashed the engagement ring he'd given her from the stage. When I asked him about it afterward, eh was very evasive and defensive. I haven't spoken to him since. He did marry Mayte. And it upsets me that we ended things that way, because at one point he was really, really important to me.
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Reply #2 posted 04/22/03 8:22pm

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I know too little to add to the discussion, but this is interesting. What issue of Essence?
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #3 posted 04/22/03 8:23pm

brownie20

may 2003
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Reply #4 posted 04/22/03 8:25pm

Starmist7

Yeah, I read the last thread. What the heck, 3 years? And all those women in between? And what in the world happened to last post?...Oh well...shrug
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Reply #5 posted 04/22/03 8:28pm

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Well Nona has some issues anyways and thak goodness she admits to them..as stated before in my first year, she went around crawlin on the floor eating food in wanting Prince while he was taken with Mayte...watchin it on video etc. She let herslef be "dogged". Whats this on again...the beautiful Experience? Nona is eatin cakes n cookies feenin for Prince while he is on the tv with Mayte courtin and conniving with her...issues. And not Princes'.

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[This message was edited Tue Apr 22 20:29:11 PDT 2003 by rdhull]
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #6 posted 04/22/03 8:35pm

brownie20

whuh? grammar folks, makes a world of difference..lmao
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Reply #7 posted 04/22/03 8:38pm

rdhull

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brownie20 said:

whuh? grammar folks, makes a world of difference..lmao

Nona ate food on the ground while yearning for Prince as he cavorted with Mayte. mad

"there..you like that better?"-Wendy
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #8 posted 04/22/03 8:49pm

BanishedBrian

rdhull said:

Well Nona has some issues anyways and thak goodness she admits to them..as stated before in my first year, she went around crawlin on the floor eating food in wanting Prince while he was taken with Mayte...watchin it on video etc. She let herslef be "dogged". Whats this on again...the beautiful Experience? Nona is eatin cakes n cookies feenin for Prince while he is on the tv with Mayte courtin and conniving with her...issues. And not Princes'.

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Yes... issues, except the issues belong to the person who wrote and directed the Beautiful Experience... a guy named Prince Rogers Nelson.

What kind of a man would have Nona play a role where she rolls on the ground eating cake and cookies because her loins ache watching Prince get it on with the other woman he's sleeping with?

Anybody who was around PP and Glam Slam during this era will tell you that Nona and Prince did indeed have a relationship, though it was certaintly non-exclusive... as Carmen and Mayte were all in the picture.
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Reply #9 posted 04/22/03 9:02pm

rdhull

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BanishedBrian said:[quote]

rdhull said:

Well Nona has some issues anyways and thak goodness she admits to them..as stated before in my first year, she went around crawlin on the floor eating food in wanting Prince while he was taken with Mayte...watchin it on video etc. She let herslef be "dogged". Whats this on again...the beautiful Experience? Nona is eatin cakes n cookies feenin for Prince while he is on the tv with Mayte courtin and conniving with her...issues. And not Princes'.

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[This message was edited Tue Apr 22 20:29:11 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

Yes... issues, except the issues belong to the person who wrote and directed the Beautiful Experience... a guy named Prince Rogers Nelson.

What kind of a man would have Nona play a role where she rolls on the ground eating cake and cookies because her loins ache watching Prince get it on with the other woman he's sleeping with?


and what kind of idiot would read the script/take the direction going "okay derrr"..tha f*ck outta here with that boolset puttin it all on Prince

Anybody who was around PP and Glam Slam during this era will tell you that Nona and Prince did indeed have a relationship,


so? evem more the reason that Nona should have had more self respect.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #10 posted 04/22/03 9:16pm

BanishedBrian

rdhull said:[quote]

BanishedBrian said:

rdhull said:

Well Nona has some issues anyways and thak goodness she admits to them..as stated before in my first year, she went around crawlin on the floor eating food in wanting Prince while he was taken with Mayte...watchin it on video etc. She let herslef be "dogged". Whats this on again...the beautiful Experience? Nona is eatin cakes n cookies feenin for Prince while he is on the tv with Mayte courtin and conniving with her...issues. And not Princes'.

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[This message was edited Tue Apr 22 20:29:11 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

Yes... issues, except the issues belong to the person who wrote and directed the Beautiful Experience... a guy named Prince Rogers Nelson.

What kind of a man would have Nona play a role where she rolls on the ground eating cake and cookies because her loins ache watching Prince get it on with the other woman he's sleeping with?


and what kind of idiot would read the script/take the direction going "okay derrr"..tha f*ck outta here with that boolset puttin it all on Prince

Anybody who was around PP and Glam Slam during this era will tell you that Nona and Prince did indeed have a relationship,


so? evem more the reason that Nona should have had more self respect.

Hmmm... that makes a lot of sense. Blame the 18 year old for not having the "self-respect" to say no to the 36 year old who is fucking her and managing/producing her singing career (and lying about his relationships with other women).

It's just another Monica/Clinton, Chandra/Condit type-situation where the powerful older man manipulates a young impressionable female subordinate.
No Candy 4 Me
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Reply #11 posted 04/22/03 9:38pm

rdhull

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BanishedBrian said:[quote]

rdhull said:

BanishedBrian said:

rdhull said:

Well Nona has some issues anyways and thak goodness she admits to them..as stated before in my first year, she went around crawlin on the floor eating food in wanting Prince while he was taken with Mayte...watchin it on video etc. She let herslef be "dogged". Whats this on again...the beautiful Experience? Nona is eatin cakes n cookies feenin for Prince while he is on the tv with Mayte courtin and conniving with her...issues. And not Princes'.

shame shame shame edit
[This message was edited Tue Apr 22 20:29:11 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

Yes... issues, except the issues belong to the person who wrote and directed the Beautiful Experience... a guy named Prince Rogers Nelson.

What kind of a man would have Nona play a role where she rolls on the ground eating cake and cookies because her loins ache watching Prince get it on with the other woman he's sleeping with?


and what kind of idiot would read the script/take the direction going "okay derrr"..tha f*ck outta here with that boolset puttin it all on Prince

Anybody who was around PP and Glam Slam during this era will tell you that Nona and Prince did indeed have a relationship,


so? evem more the reason that Nona should have had more self respect.

Hmmm... that makes a lot of sense. Blame the 18 year old for not having the "self-respect" to say no to the 36 year old who is fucking her and managing/producing her singing career (and lying about his relationships with other women).

It's just another Monica/Clinton, Chandra/Condit type-situation where the powerful older man manipulates a young impressionable female subordinate.


Give me a break..please..as if an 18 year old aint have a lick of sense. Please..please...and if thats so its liek I said..issues.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #12 posted 04/22/03 9:39pm

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When you're an adult you should take part of the blame. They're both at fault. Ain't no one way about it.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #13 posted 04/22/03 9:43pm

rdhull

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Supernova said:

When you're an adult you should take part of the blame. They're both at fault. Ain't no one way about it.

True..they both are to blame. I may be taking more side with Prince because at 18 I was not that damn foolhearty to just belittle myself in the way Nona did. I mean damn..didn't she at least see Hollywood Shuffle or Shes Gotta Have It?
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Reply #14 posted 04/22/03 9:57pm

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rdhull said:

Supernova said:

When you're an adult you should take part of the blame. They're both at fault. Ain't no one way about it.

True..they both are to blame. I may be taking more side with Prince because at 18 I was not that damn foolhearty to just belittle myself in the way Nona did. I mean damn..didn't she at least see Hollywood Shuffle or Shes Gotta Have It?

Actually I was responding to BanishedBrian who seems to believe ALL the fault is at one person's feet.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #15 posted 04/23/03 3:18am

Rhondab

wow@ the assumptions made. We have no ideas what Prince was saying to Nona. Come on ya'll...and 18 girl with a grown ass man who has control issues.

I think some of you are too hard on her. Prince dogged her. End of story. Hell, she just needs some good therapy for her Prince and daddy issues and she'll be fine...and a lotta prayer too!!! pray
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Reply #16 posted 04/23/03 3:54am

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Young girls get PLAYED everyday. Chicks who fuck w/ rock stars get played all de time - where's the shock & awe here? neutral



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heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #17 posted 04/23/03 5:07am

DavidEye

I just bought that magazine yesterday.I'm more interested in reading about Natalie Cole (one of my favorite singers).She looks great in these photos,doesn't she?
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Reply #18 posted 04/23/03 5:33am

KelleyG

A possible reason for the awe and shock here is that Nona was only 18 years old. And supposedly right now Prince is married to Mani, 18 years his junior. The JW religion has many rules and requirements to belong to their organization and to use in order to get to heaven. But sometimes it feels like some are using their religion to have their cake and eat it too.
The man who abducted Elizabeth Smart, revealed that he wanted a "young bride" because innocent youth is more submissive. This is a man that said he took his orders directly from God. Even though I am not shocked by this type of thought or behavior, it does make me wonder about men and the religions they make.
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Reply #19 posted 04/23/03 6:21am

IAM

KelleyG said:

A possible reason for the awe and shock here is that Nona was only 18 years old. And supposedly right now Prince is married to Mani, 18 years his junior. The JW religion has many rules and requirements to belong to their organization and to use in order to get to heaven. But sometimes it feels like some are using their religion to have their cake and eat it too.
The man who abducted Elizabeth Smart, revealed that he wanted a "young bride" because innocent youth is more submissive. This is a man that said he took his orders directly from God. Even though I am not shocked by this type of thought or behavior,







it does make me wonder about men and the religions they make.



yeah man.
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Reply #20 posted 04/23/03 6:27am

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KelleyG said:

A possible reason for the awe and shock here is that Nona was only 18 years old. And supposedly right now Prince is married to Mani, 18 years his junior. The JW religion has many rules and requirements to belong to their organization and to use in order to get to heaven. But sometimes it feels like some are using their religion to have their cake and eat it too.
The man who abducted Elizabeth Smart, revealed that he wanted a "young bride" because innocent youth is more submissive. This is a man that said he took his orders directly from God. Even though I am not shocked by this type of thought or behavior, it does make me wonder about men and the religions they make.



age IS more than annumber. age is wisdom, experience and common sense know how. a man who is twice the age of his partner OBVIOUSLY has more power in the relationship.
adults are obligated to look out for the best intersts of children for the simple reason that children do not always know what's best for them. 18 years old is a baby.
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Reply #21 posted 04/23/03 7:01am

FirstAvenue

well from the looks of the blurb in Essence, Nona doesnt put the blame solely on Prince, notice what she said: ...(Prince) was not stable. And I wasnt either.
She's not putting the blame only on Prince...so why should we?
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Reply #22 posted 04/23/03 7:25am

BanishedBrian

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When you're an adult you should take part of the blame. They're both at fault. Ain't no one way about it.

You won't get any argument from me. My point is simply that it's unfair to just say "Nona has issues," as if her story is made up. That's the same thing people were saying about Monica before she pulled out that dress!

She's got issues, but no more than Prince does.
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Reply #23 posted 04/23/03 7:28am

brownie20

To: DavidEye, year she does How old is she anyways? she never seems to age
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Reply #24 posted 04/23/03 7:37am

brownie20

i'm not being anti-prince or anything, i'm just simply saying he comes off like an ass in the interview by the way she spoke,and he probably is, i mean he's made enough money to be one, take it or leave it. It's not an awe and shock situation for me either, I could see him doing something like that, my purpose was to just show an article about P. I know there are some people on this site obsessed with him and think I have unfairly posted about their overlord you have to remember that I'm evil and I have devoted my life to corrupting the innocent.lol
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Reply #25 posted 04/23/03 7:38am

brownie20

nona was drugged out anyways i'm surprised she even remembered it
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Reply #26 posted 04/23/03 10:34am

katrina

BanishedBrian said:[quote]

rdhull said:

BanishedBrian said:

rdhull said:

Well Nona has some issues anyways and thak goodness she admits to them..as stated before in my first year, she went around crawlin on the floor eating food in wanting Prince while he was taken with Mayte...watchin it on video etc. She let herslef be "dogged". Whats this on again...the beautiful Experience? Nona is eatin cakes n cookies feenin for Prince while he is on the tv with Mayte courtin and conniving with her...issues. And not Princes'.

shame shame shame edit
[This message was edited Tue Apr 22 20:29:11 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

Yes... issues, except the issues belong to the person who wrote and directed the Beautiful Experience... a guy named Prince Rogers Nelson.

What kind of a man would have Nona play a role where she rolls on the ground eating cake and cookies because her loins ache watching Prince get it on with the other woman he's sleeping with?


and what kind of idiot would read the script/take the direction going "okay derrr"..tha f*ck outta here with that boolset puttin it all on Prince

Anybody who was around PP and Glam Slam during this era will tell you that Nona and Prince did indeed have a relationship,


so? evem more the reason that Nona should have had more self respect.

Hmmm... that makes a lot of sense. Blame the 18 year old for not having the "self-respect" to say no to the 36 year old who is fucking her and managing/producing her singing career (and lying about his relationships with other women).

It's just another Monica/Clinton, Chandra/Condit type-situation where the powerful older man manipulates a young impressionable female subordinate.




Let's just say they both had issues. They both were going thru something at that time.
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Reply #27 posted 04/23/03 10:42am

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Aww hell no! Dont come up with that Prince was 18 years her senior and she was just an innocent lamb to the slaughter. Just cause youre 18 doesn't give you carte blanche to ignorance on how Prince is a famed poonhound and narcissistic personality.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #28 posted 04/23/03 10:46am

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oh come on. i've heard this argument used by predatory males who like to fuck women many years their junior.

there is an OBVIOUS difference in the ability of an 18 year old and a 36 year old's ability to "play" the game. most 18 year olds are barely able to look after themselves as adults, much less comprehend the motives of someone bent on using them sexually.
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XxAxX said:

oh come on. i've heard this argument used by predatory males who like to fuck women many years their junior.

there is an OBVIOUS difference in the ability of an 18 year old and a 36 year old's ability to "play" the game. most 18 year olds are barely able to look after themselves as adults, much less comprehend the motives of someone bent on using them sexually.

You cant tell when someone is not faithfull to you?..even when its flauntes publicly?..that predatory male theory aside...they met what..in very late eighties, early nineties..it isnt like Nona grew up in 1945 Leave It To Beaver land. I mean damn in itself..you know the man is 18 years your senior to boot...HELLO!Mcfly! Nona didn't have a cognitive deficit did she?
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