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Thread started 07/06/19 2:19pm

kindofblue

Mad - Bebop ta Hip Hop

Somebody posted this link on Twitter yesterday, and as I'm sure not many here will know about this, I repost it here:

Bebop Ta Hip Hop by Headshock (https://www.youtube.com/w...e=youtu.be) is a rather obscure acid jazz/instrumental hip hop track released on an underground 12 inch in 1994 (see https://www.discogs.com/V...ase/988316).

In Nov/Dec of the same year it built the basis for and was heavily sampled in the track Mad. Wonder how Prince got in the possession of this disc?

Also, as Bebop ta Hip Hop is also sample-based, I wonder if anybody here knows one or some of the tracks that were sampled here?

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Reply #1 posted 07/06/19 3:51pm

IstenSzek

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I didn't know that yet. very cool to hear it and just how much of it was used as 'basis' for "Mad".

cool

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Reply #2 posted 07/07/19 12:57am

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Funny you post this; only yesterday I listened to Mad from Cafe De Paris 98 on headphones whilst running and I got thinking about the sample
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After all these years of digging Mad I’ve never heard this track.
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Reply #3 posted 07/07/19 4:58am

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The Fat Jazzy Grooves 7 compilation also exists as a full length CD album. I've had it for around 20 years.

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Reply #4 posted 07/07/19 6:33am

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kindofblue said:

In Nov/Dec of the same year it built the basis for and was heavily sampled in the track Mad. Wonder how Prince got in the possession of this disc?





I couldn't say for sure, but I'd bet Morris Hayes had something to do with it.

He told me a story about Prince being impressed with him mashing up a break from the group TKA with "17 Days" when he was in the house band at Glam Slam (shortly before P asked him to join The NPG, I believe). He was into finding the deep cuts and hip-hop breaks, which is also why Prince later on asked him to compile the 7 CD Sample Set from his multitracks.

Also, my cousin, who is a music producer and DJ, has some of the "Fat Jazzy Grooves" vinyls from the 90's, too. It's the kind of thing you'd find at places like the legendary hip-hop vinyl store Fat Beats, who used to have stores in NYC and LA.









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Reply #5 posted 07/07/19 9:33am

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Great find and thanks for the post/links. Never knew what the sample was in Mad and had honestly just mentally tossed it aside as "That sounds like George Clinton saying From bebop to hip hop" so many times in my head that it almost became reality for me when I listen to this track, both Prince's version and the NPG version intended for Exodus. Obviously way more than just the spoken From bebop to hip hop part was used from this track!

Listening to "Mad" many times today, I had also forgotten that there are keyboard parts from Mad used in The Good Life Big City remix, and there are instrumental breaks towards the end of Mad that were used in Rock and Roll Is Alive - lots of sampling and cross sampling going on in the orbit around "Mad."

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Reply #6 posted 07/07/19 11:39am

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dodger said:

Funny you post this; only yesterday I listened to Mad from Cafe De Paris 98 on headphones whilst running and I got thinking about the sample
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After all these years of digging Mad I’ve never heard this track.


It's me in the green and blue top when Prince does the stage diving. Good memories
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Reply #7 posted 07/08/19 5:26am

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grantevans said:

dodger said:
Funny you post this; only yesterday I listened to Mad from Cafe De Paris 98 on headphones whilst running and I got thinking about the sample . After all these years of digging Mad I’ve never heard this track.
It's me in the green and blue top when Prince does the stage diving. Good memories

Cool.

I 'taped' it back then and must have watched it a 1000 times

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Reply #8 posted 07/08/19 7:39am

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Ah, on Nu Breed Records! This is the original Nu Breed Records... founded by Asia Love and DJ Smash. Awesomer label back then... worked on some stuff under Nu Breed back in the day.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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