Okay, so the letter may or may not be about/in response to a review concerning the Come album. What I think is interesting is the stuff about Camille... in the mid-90s (I assume the letter at least comes from that period) he's referring to Camille as a separate composer, whose songs are "without conscience or inhibition"--and while Camille hasn't been a particularly prolific aspect of 's creative output during that period, if he does show up in the studio it's important to "allow his 'voice.'" This is, to me, interesting... especially since it positions Camille as more an artistic attitude/approach than a studio/vocal effect, and I wonder what tracks might be Camille (since bringing him up at this point does suggest he is still a part of what the man is making, even if not as significant as he once was).
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I have always felt the story of prince should be told in decades. the 90's a bittersweet comedy. (I've read a lot of funny stories from this era) . and the 2000- his renaissance. He was a bad ass in the 2000,s
. but 90's Prince is sad but hilarious.too. .
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"There is joy in repetition if one looks 4 joy. There can also be tension & discord. It's all up 2 the beholder. Every note—be it voice or instrument, every sound—be it human or inhuman is produced according 2 the way the producer feels. Many things contribute 2 that feeling. The climate, the time of day, the day itself. Dance music seems 2 find it's way into the studio during the weekend. The moon, the stars, everything plays a part. And there are no accidents. Tears are more believable when u can't hold them back. Here—music is made out of necessity. It's a fact a life. Just like breathing. The voice inside tells u when there is a song 2 be born. All children are born beautiful. How they are perceived by others may be another matter indeed. Much like an unborn child—A song is never conceived whole. That would be like taking dictation. Pleasure comes from not knowing what your baby's character will be like. Pleasure comes from the nurturing process. Whatever we are… whatever we make. On the days when Camille records, children are born without conscience or inhibition. It is important however 2 allow Camille his 'voice.' He hasn't been around lately. Positivity & negativity are always very close. The seeds we sow are the flowers that grow. Things are coming 2 a head. And not just 4 this generation. Believe that after it does there will be peace 4 a long time. Maybe not 4 everyone but 4 most. Hopefully more than not." * It makes complete sense if you really read the words and understand them in the context with which they were written. He was trying to explain his creative process - how he eat, sleeps and dreams music, and how the inspiration can come from any place at any time - * "Every sound, be it inhuman or human is produced according 2 the way the producer feels. Many things contribute 2 that feeling." Then he goes on to desribe the various things that can play a part in his process - climate, time of day, the moon, the stars, etc. * I also love how he explains that his music is made out of necessity - that he can't hold it back - just like breathing. Then he uses the analogy of a child being born to explain his development of a song - that all children are born beautiful regardless of how others may perceive them, and just like when a child is first conceived and develops over time in the womb, his songs are the same - they develop as he goes through the recording process. He would go on to describe his songs as "his children" throughout his life. * We know that the Come album was released much later than when all of the songs (with the exception of Let It Go) were first recorded, and several months prior to Prince changing his name. Most of that album seems to express loss of a loved one and his loneliness with the last song expressing his decision to let go of the past and attempt to move forward in a more positive way. So, I think this is where his comments about Camille come into play. It seems he was saying that his Camille persona/process was present during the time he was recording the songs for the Come album, but he had not been around lately. Prince would have written this letter after the release of the album - sometime after August 1994. [Edited 7/10/19 9:18am] | |
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I agree - this was not a "contractual obligation" at all. The songs were important to Prince when he recorded them. It just appeared to the public to be unimportant to him back then, because by the time it was released he had already moved on to the Gold album. This whole period or phase had been finished for at least a year.
I love Space, Dark, Solo.....the whole album really. I think most of that album was him communicating to someone - expressing his feelings of loss and loneliness. It seems to have been a dark and troublesome period for him - both personally and professionally. I love that it's more "off the beaten path" in terms of style and sound. * I do find it fantastic that, however negatively his early-mid 90's releases were reviewed then, the overall opinions have become much more positive over time. | |
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On The Late Show, Letterman said, "this album may never be released, which makes perfect sense he's promoting here tonight". Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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On The Late Show, Letterman said, "this album may never be released, which makes perfect sense he's promoting here tonight". True points. There are many printed articles in that ‘94- early ‘95 period where he’s talking about not being able to release TGE - lots of pieces published while he was performing in the UK. Unfortunately, the journalists were more about mocking him because he had changed his name to the symbol and no one accepted or really understood his issues with WB. | |
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I wonder if the mass recordings Prince did was just to release it from his head and then just moved on to the next sound. Prince recorded, in my opinion, for that reason. Like voices in his head. | |
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That appears to be the case based on many stories we have heard from his associates, girlfriends, etc, and also via his comments. He had stated, during one interview, that songs come to him while he's doing something as simple as brushig his teeth, and then he has to stop whatever he had planned and go record the song. * Susannah stated, during her interview with Toure, that he used the people and places around him to inspire his music - "what am I doing, and what are we doing in this moment that will inspire the music..?" | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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Good for you for sticking with him during that time. I was one of those, "what the heck is he doing?", and "why is he trying to be a rap/hiphop guy now?" folks in the early 90's. I had moved into alt rock/pop (The Cure, The Smith's, REM, etc) so I guess I would have drifted anyway, but all of that stuff he was doing did not incent me to ride that crazy wave. * Of course, now I love a lot of his output from that time - not all of it for sure - but several tracks from each album back then. | |
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It was almost like a curse in some aspects. Prince's review of his performances were probably more for his improvement than the fans enjoyment. I do not mean that in a bad way. I just get the vibe that when Prince recorded the track, it was placed in the vault and forgotten. Later, he pulled stuff perhaps cos the sounds in his head reverted back. I wonder if Prince even knew what all was in the vault. How did he function say if he was at an award show and a track came to him? Crazy. | |
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I agree with Trivial's assessment. It was an equal period in creation and output. Prince could have handled the name change a lot better. I always liked his concept of releasing Come and TGE as competition. The albums complimented each other. I do not lilke the official releases though. I wish both were more "raw" and less polished like the various unreleased formats. The battle for ownership was completely lost in the name change. I agree with his logic on his ownership pursuit. The legal complexities for an artist is overwhelming. | |
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I think he knew most of what was in his Vault - only because, Hans Martin Buff, the engineer who produced the Crystal Ball record, stated that Prince gave him the list of songs that he wanted for that record. Hans took the list and then found the tapes in the Vault. * I would imagine it would have been hard for him to remember every single tape placed in the Vault, but I think he remembered those that were important and significant to him. | |
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Even though he was saying that in the press, as Trivial correctly states; he was playing Come tracks live mixed with Gold, Exodus, Undertaker and unreleased stuff like Days Of Wild, Funky Design, Acknowledge Me, etc . They were all mostly the same batch. Agree with Trivial again on 93-96. A real gold era. The name change fiasco did detract from it but got to say he had balls of steel | |
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Here is the time frame for recordings on Come and TGE from Princevault.com: * Come: * "Recording process Most tracks on the album were recorded in the first half of 1993, although Race dates back to late 1991 (originally recorded during the album sessions, but re-worked in 1993), and the last track recorded for the album, Letitgo, was recorded in March 1994, nine months after Prince changed his name. An initial configuration was made in March 1993 (although no album title was known for this configuration), and several other configurations are known to have been made throughout 1993 and early 1994 (see below). In late 1993, the album's tracks were to have been merged into the planned 3-disc set The Dawn, but the album was later separated out again. Of note is that the 11 March 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removedInteractive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo."
* TGE: * "Recording process While the bulk of the album was recorded in a condensed time period, between September 1993, and March 1994, some tracks date back to earlier recording sessions. Shhh had originally been recorded in mid-to-late June 1992 for use by Tevin Campbell, but the version included on The Gold Experience was a re-recording from early 1994. Endorphinmachine and Dolphin were recorded in early January 1993. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World was recorded in late September 1993, soon after returned to Minneapolis from the Act II tour, and became the starting point when he began working on the album that would eventually becomeThe Gold Experience in October 1993. Now and Shy were recorded in early October 1993. 319, Billy Jack Bitch and Gold were recorded in late October 1993." *
I guess it's hard to know for sure with these two, but it does seem that the tracks for Come were done in early 1993, and those for TGE were recorded in the Fall of 1993 - so about a 9 month window, which was huge for Prince. * I wasn't thinking about The Dawn though, which was the 3 disc compilation, and would have combined many of the tracks on both albums plus some extras. I'm guessing WB wasn't approving the 3 disc release, so then Prince set up the two albums. By the time all of this was recorded Prince had changed his name and gone into battle with WB, so Come was released during the time that Prince had intended for The Dawn to be released. TGE was complete by the time Come was released, and Prince wanted to release both at the same time, but WB would not allow it, which is why it sat for another year before finally being released Sept 1995. * WHAT A MESS!!! Reading all of this and looking at the history makes you feel for Prince and better understand his frustration with not being able to realize his full vision for all of this music. It was "Crystal Ball" all over again 7 yrs later. I do get the WB argument about "oversaturation" and the price point for a 3 disc set being too high, but clearly Prince had no control over these choices. * Nevertheless, it's understandable why he had moved on from these two albums by 1995 - even though he was performing the songs live. All of it was almost two years old by that point, and he was already looking forward to Emancipation.
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I found this article/interview by Guitar World, which was published November 1994 - 3 months after Come was released. * Here is a chunk of the article which discusses The Undertaker and TGE. Earlier in the piece Michael Bland discusses the Come album and states that it came about during jam sessions with him, Sonny T and Prince over the holiday when Prince was bored (and probably lonely too based on the songs) and wanted to play/record songs. * Guitar World - November 11, 1994 - Alan Di Perna: * "Cut to 1994. After losing money for some time, the former Prince’s Paisley Park Records label (distributed by Warners) finally folds. Meanwhile the Artist Who Formerly Owned the Label, has at last three albums’ worth of material in the can. Warners says it will release only one. So what happens? The Artist announces that he is no longer Prince, that he has changed his name to . Thanks to a special dispensation from Warners, he is allowed to release his first work under his new identity—the hit single “The Most Beautiful Girl In The World"—on his newly created NPG label. The record is distributed not by Warners, but by a r&b entrepreneur All Beller’s Bellmark Records. Link to full article: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1994 [Edited 7/12/19 9:49am] | |
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good stuff, violetcrush. Love having new perspectives on the music/timelines/choices made | |
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Thanks [Edited 7/12/19 11:29am] | |
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Here is some of Prince's interview with Alan Light and Vibe mag - Alan had met with Prince at various points from April 1993 to May 1994 and then published the whole thing August of 1994: * This bit is from May 1994 before Prince did his Stars-n-Bars show for Prince Albert in Monaco: * "There are three DO NOT DISTURB signs on the door. A desk and a white upright Yamaha piano face the floor-to-ceiling windows with a breathtaking view of the Mediterranean Sea. A bowl of Tootsie Pops and assorted sweets sits on a coffee table. Tostitos, Sun Chips, and newspapers lie scattered in the corners. 7Up fills the bar, and various colored cloths are draped over all the furniture in the room. https://sites.google.com/site/prninterviews/home/vibe-august-1994 | |
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Back then,the big rumor was that Prince would give Warners his leftover throwaways from the vault (to fulfill his contractual obligations) and release his strong,inspired music (using the Symbol name) on his own,independently.Thus,the Come album is sometimes considered to be contractual filler.I don't know what the real situation was but that was such a crazy,wild era,lol. | |
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Back then,the big rumor was that Prince would give Warners his leftover throwaways from the vault (to fulfill his contractual obligations) and release his strong,inspired music (using the Symbol name) on his own,independently.Thus,the Come album is sometimes considered to be contractual filler.I don't know what the real situation was but that was such a crazy,wild era,lol. I believe that Prince allowed the “WB is going to get only throwaway songs from the Vault” statement to be published in one of his interviews, so I think if he really planned on that he would not have discussed it publicly. * Also, Chaos and Disorder was officially the last record under the WB contract. I tend to think that Prince did not consider any of his songs “throwaways”. Prince had just moved on from the Come record, and wanted to focus on promoting TGE. Much easier to promote one record instead of two. [Edited 7/14/19 8:47am] | |
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u can tell by his handwriting that he is of sound mind | |
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macaylasdad said: why did Prince always talk in "circles"?? Makes no sense. He frequently spoke in allegory which messed with people because he sounded mecurial, like a dreaming subconscious mind. “This is your conscious mthrf*ckr!...” Allegory: “A story, poem, or picture that can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.” Why use allegory? It’s a communication style that lets people choose to accept the meaning. People do not like to be instructed. I can imagine he learned his communication style from his experiences with religion. On one hand it sounds obtuse and mysterious. On the other, most song lyrics are allegory. So how else would you explain the craft? Prince’s songs weren’t always always allegory. Songs like Raspberry Beret are pretty on the nose: he worked part time in a small general store and caught trouble from the shop’s racist Irish owner for wearing his lady love’s vijay like a hat. With regard to the letter, I’m impressed he sounds articulate and rational. I found the details about Camille revealing. He was acknowledging he hadn’t been feeling uninhibited for quite some time. Square that with any criticism of his output around the period. [Edited 7/15/19 5:38am] | |
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Because she would take his handwritten letter, get it typed (or type it) on Paisley letterhead, and then the typed version would be mailed.
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But she didn't. Tom Moon said he never received the letter. | |
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Maybe Prince changed his mind & told her not to send it? Written in frustration & then dismissed when he got it out of his system? blah blah blah | |
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