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Tom Moon: That Time Prince Wrote a Letter… Tom Moon has an article published on Medium.com July 3, 2019, reacting to the letter Prince supposedly wrote him in 1994 as a response to his critical review of Come in Rolling Stone. The letter was recently sold at auction for $11,000.
Read the full story here: https://medium.com/@moonj...7ebd887896
[Edited 7/3/19 10:58am] Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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very level-headed | |
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It's weird that Moon refers to "Space" as ".exhibit[ing] so little creativity." He says he wonders if that song (and "Loose!") wasn't created in between/during catnaps in the studio. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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Tom explains his thoughts more regarding the "laziness" he perceived in the songwriting on Come in our interview with him. He's quite positive when it comes to Prince as an artist and felt like he was purposefully holding back.
Our full interview with him can be found here, in the episode titled "Phases of the Moon":
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why did Prince always talk in "circles"?? Makes no sense. | |
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I hate to say this,but I agreed with Tom's review of the Come album.There a few great moments on that album,but much of it feels lazy and uninspired,imo.We all know that Prince can do better than that. | |
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It's all subjective of course, But, as someone who dislikes most of Princes 90's music, I have to say that Tom was off the mark where it comes to Come. Most reviews were off the mark where it comes to Come. | |
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I'm interested if the gimmick will be shed aside or simply turned up to 11 on his incomplete autobiography. | |
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The reviews of Come are brutal. | |
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Being a big fan of the era I don’t agree with Tom’s review but I do agree with his thoughts about being unconvinced the letter is a response to it.
. Would Prince be referring to himself as Camille in 94 [Edited 7/3/19 14:27pm] | |
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ya, hate to say it but he couldn't communicate without the gibberish, kinda sad really, especially as he got older. It was part of his image thing but it was plain stupid after we were all adults. In one of Owen Husney's recent interviews he points out how Prince had changed when he met him in the late 80's, superstardom has a way of doing that and it has a way of trapping the poor men who finally get it. | |
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WhisperingDandelions said:
The reviews of Come are brutal. Well, cliques and echo chambers. Every group of critics travels in circles that loves the smell of their own farts. Its always fashionable to shit on anyone when they’re down regardless of the quality of the work. And it was easy to shit on Prince in 90’s. | |
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He was trying to sound "deep" and it didn't work... like when he said he was retiring...he was ggoing to look for the "ladder"... just sounded stupid. Prince should of just said, "look, I am tired and I am taking time off"... | |
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After we actually heard the record me and my friend both noted that none of the reviews for Come actually contained much at all about what the actual music sounded like. But they all got like 2-3 paragraphs on the "Prince 1958-1993" album art, the name change, and the phrase "contractual obligation" strewn about. [Edited 7/3/19 21:38pm] | |
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Remember when like every other org'er back in the day used to try and co-opt his cryptic writing style as their own? [Edited 7/3/19 21:45pm] | |
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macaylasdad said: why did Prince always talk in "circles"?? Makes no sense. Geminis men tend to do that and his Moon was in Pisces. Gemini, Pisces and Sagittarians are mutable signs. They tend to have two side/personalites, are changeable, adaptable with their thinking, words, careers and so on. Prince also had Mercury in Gemini. Mercury rules communication, writing, the intellect. | |
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If Tom has never seen the letter, where was it and who sold it at auction? | |
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I understand that it is the Music Critics job to b overy critical of songs. Also, it is their opinion. The music critics who are musicians would have a different opinion, not be so critical and would be open-minded, etc. That is why I do not read music reviews, care what they think about songs. I just buy the albums from the many artists that I am a fan of. I like different genres of music also. [Edited 7/4/19 7:33am] | |
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and I do love ABBA and the Bee Gees. I love songs by artists who get knocked by the zeitgeist. And that's ok.
But where it comes to critics, they do listen to shitload of music. And I don't think it's possible for a circle not to be an echo chamber of some sort.. We all need someways to help distill all the new artists and music and get some of it up to the masses. Word of mouth, critics, sales, airplay, it's all part of the distillery. [Edited 7/7/19 11:23am] | |
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I mark one vote 'very level-headed' and another 'why does Prince talk in "circles" - makes no sense'.
I like the cryptic language. It makes me think. He's describing his creative process. How lucid is the creative process? Often, it comes from a dream or some such, he said. After performing, he pointed to the sky because he felt something of the creative force came from outside himself, correct? I checked up on the lyrics of 'Joy in Repetition' and then went bouncing off to the album I've been listening to recently, Crystal Ball, where I luckily correctly recollected that the lyrics I wanted to find are in the song '2morrow'. ... On a deep blue sea I wanna be swept away ...
Looking up in PrinceVault, basic tracking for 'Joy in Repetition' was in 1986; for '2morrow' was in 1996.
It's interesting to me, the themes that pop up here or there and what he's trying to say.
I think in the letter, he's throwing the guy some circular thinking deliberately to be cryptic. And, to throw shade of a sort... to explain what the creative process is like for himself. It's both a gift to Moon and a slight.
One of the baffling things about Prince is that he was like some sort of conduit. The creativity came from him, was uniquely him and yet he didn't entirely experience it that way, apparently.
And, since I love to bounce around to thoughts swirling in my head, here's a quote from Duane Tudahl's book that I recently read. From Bobby Z: "You'd go to sleep and you'd wake up and the guy had a song written, recorded and mixed. People don't understand, there's just no way to understand. It's not like anything you've ever seen creatively. It's literally from another place, from another world and that's why we're still talking about Leonardo Da Vinci and that's why they'll be talking about Prince years from now because he is one of those guys. It was this constant churning of creativity, recording and writing and it baffles the imagination." [Edited 7/4/19 9:52am] Yeah, and love the letter and seeing the handwriting. Thanks for sharing.
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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some of them still do it. | |
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I get it, he was talented but the fonts and shit made him look stupid. someone who had hacked into prince's computers or something in the 90's saw a prequel letter to be released about his battle with warners, the man said it was absent all the fonts and the gibberish it was normal speak like "I signed this contract when I was 18, just a kid" and how prince revised it for the public and how it lost it's power with all the gibberish and fonts put in the final version.
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Dalia11 said: macaylasdad said: why did Prince always talk in "circles"?? Makes no sense. Geminis men tend to do that and his Moon was in Pisces. Gemini, Pisces and Sagittarians are mutable signs. They tend to have two side/personalites, are changeable, adaptable with their thinking, words, careers and so on. Prince also had Mercury in Gemini. Mercury rules communication, writing, the intellect. Geminis also likes jokes, shocking people, telling white lies. They do not always reveal how they really feel about things. Often contradictory. It depends on which side of the Gemini double personality/twin is talking. | |
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“Come” is a good album and any critic who slams “Space” needs his Rock Critic credential ripped up and his ass kicked. Talk about LAZY... | |
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I didn't mean to be making the obvious point that he was talented even though I did end with that Bobby Z quote. I don't know why I threw that in there. I just read it last night and was taken with it. I guess I see what you're saying, a more cynical view than my plain reading of the letter as a description of his creative process. So, you see this letter as him playing a public persona, intentionally cryptic, using tautologies (that word's a stretch for me, but maybe it applies here). Thanks for the info about the 'prequel letter'. I definitely see how that could make someone read this letter differently. I guess I like to think of a more guileless Prince but, from many accounts, no one really knew who he was and people's experiences of him were quite different from one another. Hmmmm....
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I wonder why Therese Stoulil had it, not that I know who she is, but I would assume she was told to mail it. And instead kept it all these years??? I can't imagine what it must have been like for Prince to take the time to correspond, give direction and most likely doesn't know it didn't get done/mailed. Thieves in the Temple. Eventually every cloud runs out of rain. | |
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That's what I was thinking too, just didn't want to be the one to say it. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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