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Thread started 06/14/19 11:35pm

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Prince Bronze Statue

Moises Suriel

I am very happy and honored to announce that I have been selected to design The Prince bronze statue (full body) in Henderson Minnesota. I Will be posting my design soon. Thank you. prince

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Wow! Congrats!

I only hope that the face will look like Prince.

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Reply #1 posted 06/14/19 11:37pm

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yes prince

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Reply #2 posted 06/14/19 11:39pm

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I hope so, too.

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Reply #3 posted 06/15/19 3:56am

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Please, no, not a statue... sad I'd much prefer memorials, without an actual statue of the man. Even better: schools named after him. . Prince was an artist constantly exploring new directions, always working, always moving, changing. Exactly the opposite of statues. But if you really want a statue, at least please make sure it has nothing to do with Purple Rain. He was soooo much more than that. . And why in Henderson of all places?
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Reply #4 posted 06/15/19 8:36am

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Congratulations.
Can't wait to see the results.
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Reply #5 posted 06/15/19 10:31am

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yes thats brilliant news. The people of Minneapolis have been brilliant since the passing of prince. How anyone can be negative with this news is beyond me.

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Reply #6 posted 06/15/19 10:52am

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I hate to play the "Prince would not approve of this..." But No Way Would he approve of what is an actual idol made of him.



...once was a golden idol that went to the winners
Needless to say, it didn't make 'em feel any less a sinner
Cause the very next mornin' the whole damn world was the same
Yes it was

The idol's still shinin' but the voice inside it said,
"There ain't no winners in this game"

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Reply #7 posted 06/15/19 11:04am

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antonb said:

yes thats brilliant news. The people of Minneapolis have been brilliant since the passing of prince. How anyone can be negative with this news is beyond me.

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I'll tell you how – although I thought my previous post was clear too.

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I'd LOVE to see more and more Prince memorials, and I loved that purple teardrop-silhouette sculpture that was made perhaps last year. That is cool. And as I said, I'd love to see more and more schools (especially art schools) named after him.
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What I don't like is the idea of remembering someone by creating a bronze version of their body. It is an unimaginative approach, a cliché – and the world is full of statues of historical figures of questionable qualities, there's no need to put Prince in their "company".
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Prince was one of the most creative men ever, paying respect to him with a bronze figure is not what I would consider creative. And if the artist (whom I don't know, therefore I am not doubting his skills, this is not about him at all) creates a great statue with high artistic value it will likely won't please those folks who'd just expect a realistic figure that looks exactly like Prince – and if the artist decides to go for the realistic approach it will likely turn out to be a bad statue, so it's quite a task to create something valuable that most people would be happy with too.
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[Edited 6/15/19 11:06am]

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Reply #8 posted 06/15/19 11:20am

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Minnesota is great at Prince things. They are proud that he is their native son. I think this is fantastic news.

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Reply #9 posted 06/15/19 12:52pm

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will it have his bulge??

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Reply #10 posted 06/15/19 1:55pm

antonb

Kares said:

antonb said:

yes thats brilliant news. The people of Minneapolis have been brilliant since the passing of prince. How anyone can be negative with this news is beyond me.

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I'll tell you how – although I thought my previous post was clear too.

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I'd LOVE to see more and more Prince memorials, and I loved that purple teardrop-silhouette sculpture that was made perhaps last year. That is cool. And as I said, I'd love to see more and more schools (especially art schools) named after him.
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What I don't like is the idea of remembering someone by creating a bronze version of their body. It is an unimaginative approach, a cliché – and the world is full of statues of historical figures of questionable qualities, there's no need to put Prince in their "company".
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Prince was one of the most creative men ever, paying respect to him with a bronze figure is not what I would consider creative. And if the artist (whom I don't know, therefore I am not doubting his skills, this is not about him at all) creates a great statue with high artistic value it will likely won't please those folks who'd just expect a realistic figure that looks exactly like Prince – and if the artist decides to go for the realistic approach it will likely turn out to be a bad statue, so it's quite a task to create something valuable that most people would be happy with too.
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[Edited 6/15/19 11:06am]

wow, get over yourself! And prince for that matter, he was far from perfect himself, but like you said he was a great artist and this just one of the many ways he is being honored. Keep em coming!

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Reply #11 posted 06/15/19 2:13pm

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antonb said:

Kares said:

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I'll tell you how – although I thought my previous post was clear too.

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I'd LOVE to see more and more Prince memorials, and I loved that purple teardrop-silhouette sculpture that was made perhaps last year. That is cool. And as I said, I'd love to see more and more schools (especially art schools) named after him.
.

What I don't like is the idea of remembering someone by creating a bronze version of their body. It is an unimaginative approach, a cliché – and the world is full of statues of historical figures of questionable qualities, there's no need to put Prince in their "company".
.
Prince was one of the most creative men ever, paying respect to him with a bronze figure is not what I would consider creative. And if the artist (whom I don't know, therefore I am not doubting his skills, this is not about him at all) creates a great statue with high artistic value it will likely won't please those folks who'd just expect a realistic figure that looks exactly like Prince – and if the artist decides to go for the realistic approach it will likely turn out to be a bad statue, so it's quite a task to create something valuable that most people would be happy with too.
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wow, get over yourself! And prince for that matter, he was far from perfect himself, but like you said he was a great artist and this just one of the many ways he is being honored. Keep em coming!

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wow smile

Well, that's not how I prefer to carry a conversation with anyone, so I'll leave you to it.

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Reply #12 posted 06/15/19 2:20pm

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PennyPurple said:

Minnesota is great at Prince things. They are proud that he is their native son. I think this is fantastic news.

I have to agree. I hope it turns out really well; I love statues as tributes when they are done "right."

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Reply #13 posted 06/15/19 3:07pm

Strive

A bronze statue seems really close to idolatry.
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Reply #14 posted 06/15/19 3:24pm

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Strive said:

A bronze statue seems really close to idolatry. [Edited 6/15/19 15:07pm]

Get outa here with that ish! How many statues of of famous people (including Jesus!) are there in existence?!! confused rolleyes If you don't want to see "graven images" of anyone, then move to a Middle Eastern country where such things are forbidden. razz No one is suggesting that people should bow down and leave sacrifices like at the statue of the golden calf in biblical times. Ridiculous response.

[Edited 6/15/19 15:28pm]

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Reply #15 posted 06/15/19 3:34pm

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Strive said:

A bronze statue seems really close to idolatry. [Edited 6/15/19 15:07pm]

it IS idolatry

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Reply #16 posted 06/15/19 4:01pm

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PennyPurple said:

Minnesota is great at Prince things. They are proud that he is their native son. I think this is fantastic news.

Funny but, I always thought that he was way more proud of Minnesota than they were of him, because he used to reference Minnesota all the time, and seemed very proud that it was his hometown, but never seemed to get the same admiration and love from the state that he deserved, that is until he passed. Only then did they seem to realize first hand, just how popular and loved by the world he was! It was then that Minnesota began to show pride and love for him, like they should have. Now, I could be wrong, but that is how things seemed to me, and how I saw it when he was alive.

[Edited 6/15/19 16:08pm]

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Strive said:

A bronze statue seems really close to idolatry. [Edited 6/15/19 15:07pm]

it IS idolatry

No, it is not. If that is your opinion, then what about all the images that Prince had done on the walls of Paisley Park? Not to mention in other forms via the media and otherwise... Was he idolizing himself? Setting himself up as some self-styled savior of music? If so, then why are you still a fan. Are you the one guilty of idolatry by having images in your home and listening to his music? If so, then maybe you need to check yourself out... As for the rest of us, we simply enjoy his music and think something like a statue would be a nice memorial. And that's it. rolleyes

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Reply #18 posted 06/15/19 4:49pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Strive said:

A bronze statue seems really close to idolatry. [Edited 6/15/19 15:07pm]

it IS idolatry

Only if you choose to worship it and idolize it, making a god of it.

[Edited 6/16/19 9:36am]

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oceanblue said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it IS idolatry

Only if you choose to worship it and idol it, making a god of it.

Exactly.

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Reply #20 posted 06/15/19 6:48pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it IS idolatry

No, it is not. If that is your opinion, then what about all the images that Prince had done on the walls of Paisley Park? Not to mention in other forms via the media and otherwise... Was he idolizing himself? Setting himself up as some self-styled savior of music? If so, then why are you still a fan. Are you the one guilty of idolatry by having images in your home and listening to his music? If so, then maybe you need to check yourself out... As for the rest of us, we simply enjoy his music and think something like a statue would be a nice memorial. And that's it. rolleyes


Paintings in his home or turning his home into a museum is a tad bit different than a bronze statue. Prince himself explored the idea you're pushing in Laydown "To say this name borders on blasphemy/Everybody wanna be me" but if he viewed holograms as demonic, I can't imagine he'd be ok with this type of memorial.

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I guess you could make the argument that Paisley Park was an act of self-idolatry but he was also a "rules for thee, but not for me" type of person. Even at his most religious.

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Reply #21 posted 06/15/19 7:29pm

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Strive said:

purplethunder3121 said:

No, it is not. If that is your opinion, then what about all the images that Prince had done on the walls of Paisley Park? Not to mention in other forms via the media and otherwise... Was he idolizing himself? Setting himself up as some self-styled savior of music? If so, then why are you still a fan. Are you the one guilty of idolatry by having images in your home and listening to his music? If so, then maybe you need to check yourself out... As for the rest of us, we simply enjoy his music and think something like a statue would be a nice memorial. And that's it. rolleyes


Paintings in his home or turning his home into a museum is a tad bit different than a bronze statue. Prince himself explored the idea you're pushing in Laydown "To say this name borders on blasphemy/Everybody wanna be me" but if he viewed holograms as demonic, I can't imagine he'd be ok with this type of memorial.

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I guess you could make the argument that Paisley Park was an act of self-idolatry but he was also a "rules for thee, but not for me" type of person. Even at his most religious.

Why would a painting in his own home be less sacriligious and offending than a nearby city choosing to honor him with a bronze statue?!! Geez, get a grip, people! I'm going to honor my late father who just died with a memorial... It ain't a bronze statue but it represents that same thing! And that's my last statement on the subject! whew

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Reply #22 posted 06/15/19 8:55pm

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Kares said:



antonb said:


yes thats brilliant news. The people of Minneapolis have been brilliant since the passing of prince. How anyone can be negative with this news is beyond me.



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I'll tell you how – although I thought my previous post was clear too.


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I'd LOVE to see more and more Prince memorials, and I loved that purple teardrop-silhouette sculpture that was made perhaps last year. That is cool. And as I said, I'd love to see more and more schools (especially art schools) named after him.
.


What I don't like is the idea of remembering someone by creating a bronze version of their body. It is an unimaginative approach, a cliché – and the world is full of statues of historical figures of questionable qualities, there's no need to put Prince in their "company".
.
Prince was one of the most creative men ever, paying respect to him with a bronze figure is not what I would consider creative. And if the artist (whom I don't know, therefore I am not doubting his skills, this is not about him at all) creates a great statue with high artistic value it will likely won't please those folks who'd just expect a realistic figure that looks exactly like Prince – and if the artist decides to go for the realistic approach it will likely turn out to be a bad statue, so it's quite a task to create something valuable that most people would be happy with too.
.

[Edited 6/15/19 11:06am]



I get what you’re saying, Kares.
This could go either way in my thoughts.
What if the bronze statue was really artistic in some way?
Any ideas on what, where, how etc one could be made that you feel Prince would approve of?
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Reply #23 posted 06/15/19 9:27pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Why would a painting in his own home be less sacriligious and offending than a nearby city choosing to honor him with a bronze statue?!! Geez, get a grip, people! I'm going to honor my late father who just died with a memorial... It ain't a bronze statue but it represents that same thing! And that's my last statement on the subject! whew

[Edited 6/15/19 19:34pm]

Why would a bronze statue be different than memorabilia in a museum? If only there was some sort of story in the bible regarding a golden statue we could look at for guidance...

lol

(To be clear, I'm not angry with this. It just seems like a misguided attempt by the town to get a little tourist revenue. Would Prince have found this humorous? I doubt it.)

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Reply #24 posted 06/15/19 9:48pm

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We're all on a message board made for the sole purpose of discussing an artist that we all deeply love, who spent decades performing for throngs of adoring fans who paid money to hear his playing and his message in person, many of them wearing shirts adorned by his face... and some of you really think a posthumous statue is "idolatry" and "going too far"? Is the irony seriously lost on you people? lol

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Strive said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Why would a painting in his own home be less sacriligious and offending than a nearby city choosing to honor him with a bronze statue?!! Geez, get a grip, people! I'm going to honor my late father who just died with a memorial... It ain't a bronze statue but it represents that same thing! And that's my last statement on the subject! whew

[Edited 6/15/19 19:34pm]

Why would a bronze statue be different than memorabilia in a museum? If only there was some sort of story in the bible regarding a golden statue we could look at for guidance...

lol

(To be clear, I'm not angry with this. It just seems like a misguided attempt by the town to get a little tourist revenue. Would Prince have found this humorous? I doubt it.)

Well, even if so, where's the harm? My only beef with this would be if it was done in a "tasteful" way...

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Reply #26 posted 06/15/19 11:06pm

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One of my favorite pieces by the artist....

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^^^^ yeah I have seen that one. Very talented nod

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Reply #28 posted 06/15/19 11:53pm

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Kares said:

Please, no, not a statue... sad
I'd much prefer memorials, without an actual statue of the man. Even better: schools named after him.
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Prince was an artist constantly exploring new directions, always working, always moving, changing. Exactly the opposite of statues.
But if you really want a statue, at least please make sure it has nothing to do with Purple Rain. He was soooo much more than that.
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And why in Henderson of all places?

Wow people just cant be happy for eachother. Its not about you and its not about what you want and what you prefer. Maybe just be happy a fellow orger got selected for something special?
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^^^^ yeah I have seen that one. Very talented nod


You look so different in real life than i thought you would be. Very handsome man!
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