Nice!!! Wonder if Prince was "incognito" at some of that George and P-Funk marathon | |
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Ditto OF4S - you always find very inforamative tid-bits that keep these threads interesting | |
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Poor Nona!! I think this PR quote is a perfect example of how much control Prince had over people and his situation. Nona would later be quoted as saying her relationship with him was nothing but a "mind screw" or something of that nature. | |
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No, but in spring 1994 I saw George in Paris and P was backstage, it was right after he did his Bataclan show so we knew he was around and hoped he'd show up, and at some point Mayte appeared on stage and we all got crazy but then she left and that was it... it was later confirmed that P was backstage but for some reason he chose not to show up A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Oh bummer!! That would have been another classic bootleg in circulation * Typical Prince antics to get the crowd going | |
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I was a huge fan during this time. The music was amazing, I loved that version of the NPG band, and I loved the whole Mayte concept. But also it is hard to look at Prince or watch videos of this time because it just feels like he was trying to destroy himself. It hurts my heart because when I see pictures/performances from this era there feels like an element of self loathing in him that is manifesting itself visually and it is hard to watch. | |
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I agree. Watching those Glam Slam Miami shows and some of the others during that time you really get a sense that he was not happy, and was angry (mostly with WB), and his fun energetic stage presence was gone. * I didn't care for the "Mayte" concept though. If you watch what he does with her from the Diamonds & Pearls tour to the 1994-95 shows, it goes from a more innocent belly dancing theme to just flat-out raunchy stripper antics on stage. I know that had a lot to do with the change in his music, and he had moved on from the Egyptian/Arabic thing, but some of that is hard to watch. He had her (or she decided to) doing crotch shots, gyrating, bend overs, and running off stage after he pulls her top off. Not too classy | |
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Prince or no Prince, I would pay big money for soundboards of those 3 summer 1995 P-Funk shows at the Hot Brass club, I can tell you that. I'm pretty sure some people in Paris have them, I'd have to investigate, but AFAIK it's never been leaked A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Here's an excerpt from Prince's interview with Q magazine/Davide Cavanagh, May 1995: * The Big Concert * Even the journalists were commenting on the "porn" style of Mayte's stage act | |
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Yeah,he was really angry during that period.I actually got tired of reading his interviews because of all the badmouthing of Warners that he did. | |
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Space T-minus 60 seconds and counting (Space) I never been one 2 hide my feelings BRIDGE: (The space) {x3} I never been one 4 this thing obsession BRIDGE (The space) - Go Bass T-minus 60 seconds and counting (The space) {x2} © 1994 Controversy Music - ASCAP My left hand under your head
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That BBC performance was incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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This era and tour were OFF THE SCALE! | |
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My favourite era. Brilliant new music and performances with a genuine atmosphere of excitement and unpredictability. It is this time period, not the 80s, that made me a life long fan. | |
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darkroman said: This era and tour were OFF THE SCALE! Was this 1992-1993 or ‘94-‘95?? By 1995 it seems he had an even bigger security entourage around him and he would not allow journalists to take notes or record interviews. Surprising that he was so accessible to the fans at that time. | |
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Love the Come Album more than the Gold album (Even though the Gold album has better songs on it.) I just dig the vibe of this collection of music on Come. Love the Space remix. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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Ok, just gonna say it. Come and the transition into Space are my favorite one-two punch openings to a Prince album. Only 1999 and Lovesexy are at the same level. He had his unique touch of brilliance during those years. What people and journalists remembers though are Tony M and Jughead back in 1991, and therefore can't keep the projects separate. D&P is it's own thing, Come is it's own thing. Seriously! | |
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darkroman said: Goldnigger Ohhh no | |
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darkroman said:
Okay but you really have to nix Goldnigga(Edited by OF4$ not Goldni&&er), , Carmen E, and Child Of The Sun from that list, as I don’t think they are high points for him. * When I watch the 94 Miami Glam Slam shows - which were held during his birthday week (when he was still celebrating birthdays) and compare it to his “86 birthday show in Detroit - it’s like night and day in terms of his demeanor and energy. In ‘86 he’s happy, fit and bouncing around the stage. In that ‘94 show he’s gaunt, rail thin and looks pissed off. * Guess I prefer “happy” Prince | |
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It was a great period, the hits was gone for a while, a lot of unreleased music was played live. My first aftershow was at the Estandard, Barcelone (1993) and it was incredible to witness. I already was an hardcore fan but i was unable to recognise most of the songs. I was waiting for this for such a long time ! "You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?" | |
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Warfare chapt 14 Possessed: the Rise & Fall of Prince p 198-199 Whether he read such commentaries is unknown, but Prince seemed determined to redefine himself and ot put the disappointements and frustrations of the last few years behind him. In public appearances, he kept emphasizing the Prince was dead. The Gold Experience - parts of which appeared on the Internet, placed there by fans who acquired the material on the bootleg market - contained segues between songs with spoken messages like "Prince esta muerta." Then, in a December 1994 appearance on the Late Show with David Letterman, he made the point even more explicit - after playing the unreleased Dolphin (a song about reincarnation) from the Gold Experience, he feigned his own death and was carried offstage.
But while the clear intent of Prince's various stunts was to foment outrage about Warners' treatment of him, the public response was bemusement, to the extent that anyone cared at all. His grievances, rather than being part of any larger movement for artists' rights, were transparently personal. In fact, the more meritorious parts of his campaign against Warners and the major label system - such as that artists received far too small a portion of their profits (generally less than fifteen percent) - were lost amidst his grandiose actions.
Come, released in August 1994, hammered the "Prince is dead" message home one more time. The black-and-white cover showed him outside the gates of what appears to be a cemetery (actually La Sagrada Familia cathedral in Barcelona, Spain). Below the word "Prince" are the dates "1958-1993)," serving as a tombstone inscription.
Surely one of the few albums in pop history to have been intentionally fashioned as a mediocre project, Come was, unsurprisingly, a commercial failure. It sold 345,000 copies in the United States - the worst performance of his career to date - and reached only No. 15 on the Billboard Pop Chart. Neither Prince nor Warner Bros. did much to promote the record; it was, quite simply, contract filler.
Although Prince seemily expected the public to understand that he had not truly sanctioned the release of Come and instead wasnted it to have the Gold Experience, there distinctions were not nearly as widely appreciated as he thought. Instead, a great many fans simply found in the album another indication of his creative decline. "What concerned me was that he didn't understand what he was doing to his own career because of the feud with Warners," Badeaux observed. Added drummer Bland, "It was a collection of lackluster songs with dated production. I felt we were cheating the fans." | |
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YES! Plus The Beautiful Experience movie, belated release of 3 Chains O' Gold movie, The Undertaker VHS, The Sacrifice Of Victor VHS and a lot of music videos for released and unreleased tracks . Some great maxi / singles - Get Wild, The Good Life, I Hate U, Space, Gold, Purple Medley . What a time to be a fan, we were spoilt. | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
I think he changed a lot from these pics which are ‘92-‘93, and ‘94-‘95. The fight with WB really ramped up by ‘94, and most of his interviews were spent ranting and/or trying to explain why he changed to the symbol, which didn’t happen until June of ‘93. The press/media were mocking and slamming him - even Letterman made fun of his performance of Dolphin (Mayte’s streamer dancing as an Angel and him acting out being shot, killed and dragged off stage), so his music was overshadowed by all of the other stuff going on. * Edit: OF4S missed your post with excerpt from Possessed before I wrote this! Funny that it mentions the David Letterman performance. [Edited 5/21/19 7:01am] | |
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Warfare chapt 14 Possessed: the Rise & Fall of Prince p 198-199 Whether he read such commentaries is unknown, but Prince seemed determined to redefine himself and ot put the disappointements and frustrations of the last few years behind him. In public appearances, he kept emphasizing the Prince was dead. The Gold Experience - parts of which appeared on the Internet, placed there by fans who acquired the material on the bootleg market - contained segues between songs with spoken messages like "Prince esta muerta." Then, in a December 1994 appearance on the Late Show with David Letterman, he made the point even more explicit - after playing the unreleased Dolphin (a song about reincarnation) from the Gold Experience, he feigned his own death and was carried offstage.
But while the clear intent of Prince's various stunts was to foment outrage about Warners' treatment of him, the public response was bemusement, to the extent that anyone cared at all. His grievances, rather than being part of any larger movement for artists' rights, were transparently personal. In fact, the more meritorious parts of his campaign against Warners and the major label system - such as that artists received far too small a portion of their profits (generally less than fifteen percent) - were lost amidst his grandiose actions.
Come, released in August 1994, hammered the "Prince is dead" message home one more time. The black-and-white cover showed him outside the gates of what appears to be a cemetery (actually La Sagrada Familia cathedral in Barcelona, Spain). Below the word "Prince" are the dates "1958-1993)," serving as a tombstone inscription.
Surely one of the few albums in pop history to have been intentionally fashioned as a mediocre project, Come was, unsurprisingly, a commercial failure. It sold 345,000 copies in the United States - the worst performance of his career to date - and reached only No. 15 on the Billboard Pop Chart. Neither Prince nor Warner Bros. did much to promote the record; it was, quite simply, contract filler.
Although Prince seemily expected the public to understand that he had not truly sanctioned the release of Come and instead wasnted it to have the Gold Experience, there distinctions were not nearly as widely appreciated as he thought. Instead, a great many fans simply found in the album another indication of his creative decline. "What concerned me was that he didn't understand what he was doing to his own career because of the feud with Warners," Badeaux observed. Added drummer Bland, "It was a collection of lackluster songs with dated production. I felt we were cheating the fans." Except 'Come' was not an intentionally mediocre project and included quality songs included on various configurations for a few years, including 'The Beautiful Experience' tv special and Glam Slam Ulysses (both credited to symbol). The 'Possessed' book however, is definitely unintentionally mediocre. And highly biased. One of the worst Prince biographies ever published. | |
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