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Reply #90 posted 05/13/19 4:28am

dodger

ChocolateBox3121 said:

rdhull said:

Prince looked his age. Sans makeup, dude looked 57 etc. WITH makeup, he looked like a 57 year old wearing makeup. Not saying he didnt look good still. But 20 years his junior? Please stop posting, ypu waste internet bandwith since you always post nonsense.

I wish Prince(r.i.p.) knew the type of person U REALLY were before U were invited to his 3121 house party.

lol lol lol

what an exchange

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Reply #91 posted 05/13/19 4:30am

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PeteSilas said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Black don't crack! Prince(r.i.p.) looked 20 years his junior.

JB did the the splits up until he passed away. He NEVER stopped.

no he didn't, his wife said he had to spend two days in bed when he last tried it. and prince looked great most of the time, his last years were catching up to him. unlike little richard or chuck berry who looked fantastic most of their old years.

Lil Richard(whom I worked with & once flew passed me driving 100 mph) has let himself COMPLETELY GO NOW. Prince(r.i.p.) NEVER looked even close to that bad in his ENTIRE life on earth.

[Edited 5/13/19 7:25am]

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #92 posted 05/13/19 5:30am

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This song is probably my number 1 now. It's honest, heartfelt & emotional for ovbvious reasons.

Someone mentioned that he was just telling another story & there's no real message / meaning behind it! - BS ! P would never write & release something THAT deep without fully knowing how it would be taken.

Let me put it this way...you know when you have a cold coming on, you feel it, when you hurt a muscle you know it - point being when something is wrong with your body you damn well know it! It's ridiculous to suggest that 1] he didn't know someting was wrong & 2] he felt strongly enough about it to communicate it the best / only way he could ie through his music & lyrics.

RIP you beautiful soul.

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Reply #93 posted 05/13/19 7:03am

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I've said it before and will say it again - it's the standout track of his latter day output. Yes, the song may well be in the voice of a persona he's adopted - but even upon first listen, it felt like the most truly honest resonant thing he'd perhaps ever released. I wish he'd done a whole album in this vein. Maybe he did.

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Reply #94 posted 05/13/19 7:15am

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I was amazed when I first heard it,still am.Idk about any of you but I get a lot of "Vanilla Sky" vibes from this song and affirmation III

YES.

I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #95 posted 05/13/19 7:30am

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jjam said:

I've said it before and will say it again - it's the standout track of his latter day output. Yes, the song may well be in the voice of a persona he's adopted - but even upon first listen, it felt like the most truly honest resonant thing he'd perhaps ever released. I wish he'd done a whole album in this vein. Maybe he did.

yeahthat

I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #96 posted 05/13/19 7:35am

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just wish that Joshua kept away from it...

hate those 'artificial' winds and woosh sounds and telephone voices...

not very fond of the background singers either.

I do love L. La Havas, but here on this track... naaah!

strings are beautiful but mixed way back to the front, and the thing I miss most in this song is the guitar. It should've been a guitar driven track, with a phat heart tearing guitar solo.

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to me it does not sound as a Prince track, although the lyrics are truely him.

It isn't hunting enough (although it sounds like a promise throughout the song)

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I don't get the goose bumps.

imho of course

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Reply #97 posted 05/13/19 9:26am

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We cant be in Prince's head but also have to realize that he was human, and I feel death finally Humanized him to people that thought he was super human and not of this earth or something like that. We DO NOT know his mind those last years, but from what i heard from a few like his sister and a few others, there was a feeling of "I have done all this before" feeling like what else do I have to do, I think the solo tour was a shot at doing something he had not done, I also totally believe in this time he did not want others around him because he knew he had a problem and he didnt want people to know. If he toured with a big band or 3rd eye girl i think he wouldnt have felt he could hide it. So we really dont or will ever know, was he depressed was he alone he had to be feeling a real feeling of his own mortality and getting old, regardless of looking good for his age which he always did he for awhile had not been able to do things he could do in his late 30's and 40's so its all in how he took that. Some regardless of it can except it, maybe Prince couldnt, I mean what else did he have? He wasnt going to start acting or being a photographer and never tour and play live, that is what he lived for and now it was a problem to even do it, or why do it even.


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Reply #98 posted 05/13/19 9:45am

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lastdecember said:

We cant be in Prince's head but also have to realize that he was human, and I feel death finally Humanized him to people that thought he was super human and not of this earth or something like that. We DO NOT know his mind those last years, but from what i heard from a few like his sister and a few others, there was a feeling of "I have done all this before" feeling like what else do I have to do, I think the solo tour was a shot at doing something he had not done, I also totally believe in this time he did not want others around him because he knew he had a problem and he didnt want people to know. If he toured with a big band or 3rd eye girl i think he wouldnt have felt he could hide it. So we really dont or will ever know, was he depressed was he alone he had to be feeling a real feeling of his own mortality and getting old, regardless of looking good for his age which he always did he for awhile had not been able to do things he could do in his late 30's and 40's so its all in how he took that. Some regardless of it can except it, maybe Prince couldnt, I mean what else did he have? He wasnt going to start acting or being a photographer and never tour and play live, that is what he lived for and now it was a problem to even do it, or why do it even.



Ok so then you just give up on life? I just dont get that mindset. There are many people as they age who lose the ability to do what they love and have to grapple with losing that safety net. I guess I just see the life span in a different way as it was my senior thesis in college and I worked in a nursing home while I was pregnant and saw old age, dying and death up close.

But I agree we can't know what was inside his head but I find the people who are terrified of aging the most have deeper reasons for that, that go beyond just losing looks and not getting the attention you once did.
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Reply #99 posted 05/13/19 11:42am

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Krystalkisses said:

lastdecember said:

We cant be in Prince's head but also have to realize that he was human, and I feel death finally Humanized him to people that thought he was super human and not of this earth or something like that. We DO NOT know his mind those last years, but from what i heard from a few like his sister and a few others, there was a feeling of "I have done all this before" feeling like what else do I have to do, I think the solo tour was a shot at doing something he had not done, I also totally believe in this time he did not want others around him because he knew he had a problem and he didnt want people to know. If he toured with a big band or 3rd eye girl i think he wouldnt have felt he could hide it. So we really dont or will ever know, was he depressed was he alone he had to be feeling a real feeling of his own mortality and getting old, regardless of looking good for his age which he always did he for awhile had not been able to do things he could do in his late 30's and 40's so its all in how he took that. Some regardless of it can except it, maybe Prince couldnt, I mean what else did he have? He wasnt going to start acting or being a photographer and never tour and play live, that is what he lived for and now it was a problem to even do it, or why do it even.

Ok so then you just give up on life? I just dont get that mindset. There are many people as they age who lose the ability to do what they love and have to grapple with losing that safety net. I guess I just see the life span in a different way as it was my senior thesis in college and I worked in a nursing home while I was pregnant and saw old age, dying and death up close. But I agree we can't know what was inside his head but I find the people who are terrified of aging the most have deeper reasons for that, that go beyond just losing looks and not getting the attention you once did.

some people do, especially when they have some notoriety that they cling to. People cope differently, doesn't make sense to all of us. Doesn't make sense to me that the superstars of my youth are mostly dead while guys who i've seen begging on the streets, addicted, homeless, insane, filthy, they live on. First thing I think of when i see some of these faces around town that I've seen for decades I think, "how did they survive while Prince and Michael are dead?". Life doesn't always make sense.

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Reply #100 posted 05/13/19 11:53am

PeteSilas

ChocolateBox3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

no he didn't, his wife said he had to spend two days in bed when he last tried it. and prince looked great most of the time, his last years were catching up to him. unlike little richard or chuck berry who looked fantastic most of their old years.

Lil Richard(whom I worked with & once flew passed me driving 100 mph) has let himself COMPLETELY GO NOW. Prince(r.i.p.) NEVER looked even close to that bad in his ENTIRE life on earth.

[Edited 5/13/19 7:25am]

i didn't recognize him at first glance in the latest interviews, I don't see it as "let himself go" he just allowed himself to be old, which he is, something that Prince was probably incapable of. Richard was a lot more humble at heart. Anyway, when I say looked good, I first started watching interviews of Lil richard when he was in his 50's and he looked phenomenal for his age and for many years after. of course the mj makeup that he adopted wasn't necessary, or the colored contacts but he's the king, he can do what he wants.

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Reply #101 posted 05/13/19 1:58pm

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The line that says there are "so many reasons why I don't belong here" resonate with how I think he was feeling and his depressed state of mind. The investigation interview with Judith Hill she mentioned that Prince said something to the effect of he's the only one left. I think the state of the music industry in general was depressing him and he felt like basically what he states in the song June that he wished he was born of the Woodstock stage. I think he was very disillusioned with the state of the music business, the fact that it was difficult to get his music out to the masses, that there were so few true music artists like himself - so he felt he was very alone or didnt belong anymore.

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Reply #102 posted 05/13/19 2:14pm

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databank said:

Interesting how our preceptions are the exact opposite on that matter. I'd be curious to discuss it with you over a beer biggrin

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But I really like the voice-overs on AoA. Maybe it's because the woman's voice is very pleasing. Maybe it's because the content at least tries to be something meaningful, rather than cheesy phone calls (0+>) or simple introductions to songs (TGE).

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For me they seem to be actually saying something for a change and even hold up to repeated listens for that matter. Most of his alubums that have them featured prominently, I've made edited copies that I use for listening purposes.

Krystalkisses said:

"Breakdown" was pretty moving too.

That's a good point too.

Like I mentioned, I was headed down the final road towards my divorce when AoA came out and that song hit hard. Do we know who it was written about?


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Reply #103 posted 05/13/19 2:25pm

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And damn, Hull. Lighten up on folks. Yeesh.

Prince was definitely showing his age the final year or so. I noticed it straight away and it recall that it seemed fairly abrupt. It's inevitable but he doesn't seem like the type of cat that could handle it too well and, when the agin process starts to set in, the makeup often makes you look worse, IMO. I'm 52 and, believe me, that's PLENTY old enough to notice the changes that you aint never getting back. He aged quite well, of course, and from most accounts tried to live healthy but late in the game he was very thin to me, his skin tone looked odd and his eyes weren't quite right. I just chalked it up to realizing he was past 55.

But, also, the afro was WAY off; unkempt and uneven. Patchy. Out of character for him. People speculated it was a wig and I was like "hell, no. A wig would be uniformly ROUND." Prince was always about his hair, even when it was an odd style, but with the fro he seemed to just be "letting it go".

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Reply #104 posted 05/13/19 2:31pm

PeteSilas

tricky christopher (I think) said that prince wrote the breakdown after an od around 2011 that we didn't know about. some have suggested it may have been about cancer, I don't think it was a woman, to me it sounds, at least some, about his conscience, regrets that haunted him, a good man who did bad things, just like many of us.

herb4 said:

lurker316 said:


For me they seem to be actually saying something for a change and even hold up to repeated listens for that matter. Most of his alubums that have them featured prominently, I've made edited copies that I use for listening purposes.

Krystalkisses said:

"Breakdown" was pretty moving too.

That's a good point too.

Like I mentioned, I was headed down the final road towards my divorce when AoA came out and that song hit hard. Do we know who it was written about?


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Reply #105 posted 05/13/19 2:35pm

PeteSilas

i've often wondered how he'd have coped had he had the limited success most musicians, no matter how good, have. I know some monster musicians, the ones in his age bracket usually get pretty cranky at heart. You catch them in the right mood and they are open and generous but if you get to know them, they are some angry, bitter, discouraged and discouraging folks. The younger musicians who whine about pay I have no patience for because they are usually doing it out of love for something other than music and they are just bratty and entitled as well as not that good. But, it's no way to go anymore, if it ever was, the music business is absolutely dead in terms of a money making scheme. In some ways that's good, as dave hampton said, no one is going to coddle people like they used to and maybe some of that prima donna behavior will just go away.

WeDaBest said:

The line that says there are "so many reasons why I don't belong here" resonate with how I think he was feeling and his depressed state of mind. The investigation interview with Judith Hill she mentioned that Prince said something to the effect of he's the only one left. I think the state of the music industry in general was depressing him and he felt like basically what he states in the song June that he wished he was born of the Woodstock stage. I think he was very disillusioned with the state of the music business, the fact that it was difficult to get his music out to the masses, that there were so few true music artists like himself - so he felt he was very alone or didnt belong anymore.

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Reply #106 posted 05/13/19 2:39pm

PeteSilas

Also, neither Elvis or Mj, guys close to his level of impact culturally, neither of those guys did much better, Elvis was lost in his last years and from what I hear of MJ he spent a lot of time walking around neverland drugged out of his mind. Elvis actually wondered how he'd be remembered and felt he hadn't done what he set out to do, Mj of course, always felt that he'd never do anything to compare to thriller and the molestation thing had to kill his spirit. Prince went 7 years longer than mike and 15 more than elvis, still, i don't quite understand it. the "death by yes" as one of P's men called it maybe true.

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Reply #107 posted 05/13/19 3:56pm

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PeteSilas said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Lil Richard(whom I worked with & once flew passed me driving 100 mph) has let himself COMPLETELY GO NOW. Prince(r.i.p.) NEVER looked even close to that bad in his ENTIRE life on earth.

[Edited 5/13/19 7:25am]

i didn't recognize him at first glance in the latest interviews, I don't see it as "let himself go" he just allowed himself to be old, which he is, something that Prince was probably incapable of. Richard was a lot more humble at heart. Anyway, when I say looked good, I first started watching interviews of Lil richard when he was in his 50's and he looked phenomenal for his age and for many years after. of course the mj makeup that he adopted wasn't necessary, or the colored contacts but he's the king, he can do what he wants.

Wow! It seems like U would drink Lil Richard's bath water! Prince(r.i.p.) got all of his performance mannerisms from both Lil Richard & Chuck Berry. My grandfather(r.i.p) once told me that Lil Richard was the prettiest man he ever saw, that can wear make up better than any woman. But Prince was WAY prettier than both Lil Richard & Chuck Berry. Lil Richard use to always say Prince(r.i.p.) was him in this generation. He just like Prince lived a FULL life and had MANY stories & secrets.

[Edited 5/13/19 16:29pm]

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #108 posted 05/13/19 6:51pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

i didn't recognize him at first glance in the latest interviews, I don't see it as "let himself go" he just allowed himself to be old, which he is, something that Prince was probably incapable of. Richard was a lot more humble at heart. Anyway, when I say looked good, I first started watching interviews of Lil richard when he was in his 50's and he looked phenomenal for his age and for many years after. of course the mj makeup that he adopted wasn't necessary, or the colored contacts but he's the king, he can do what he wants.

Wow! It seems like U would drink Lil Richard's bath water! Prince(r.i.p.) got all of his performance mannerisms from both Lil Richard & Chuck Berry. My grandfather(r.i.p) once told me that Lil Richard was the prettiest man he ever saw, that can wear make up better than any woman. But Prince was WAY prettier than both Lil Richard & Chuck Berry. Lil Richard use to always say Prince(r.i.p.) was him in this generation. He just like Prince lived a FULL life and had MANY stories & secrets.

[Edited 5/13/19 16:29pm]

hendrix's dad told richards manager that jimi would "eat ten yards of shit" to play with little richard when he gave his ok for it. that's pretty much my feelings. richard doesn't look the same but his brain is sharp as ever and he's still funny. also, he tells the story of how he retired, a nephew of his told him he didn't sound good anymore and was afraid richard would get mad, richard listened and retired. that's humility. Jerry lee Lewis should probably think about not performing too but who would I be to say he should stop? I couldn't ever see Prince giving up anything gracefully, yet and still, as someone else correctly said, he could have done a million other things, produced, wrote, scored, he made the decisions he wanted to make. Someone on here, about 15 years ago, said that between richard and prince "one would die lonely and it won't be little richard". Sometimes I think of that. just found the actual quote from then:

[Edited 5/13/19 18:55pm]wrong. he has respect for his fans unlike Prince. one of the two will die sad and lonely and it ain't gonna be little Richard. Matthew 6:19-21.

[Edited 5/13/19 19:03pm]

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Reply #109 posted 05/13/19 7:19pm

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Wasn't Prince married to Manuela 15 years ago? That is quite the statement, I am amazed you found that. It is sad in how accurate it was, but I guess for perceptive people who were around him the end wasn't really shocking. Wow.
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Reply #110 posted 05/13/19 7:45pm

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PeteSilas said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Wow! It seems like U would drink Lil Richard's bath water! Prince(r.i.p.) got all of his performance mannerisms from both Lil Richard & Chuck Berry. My grandfather(r.i.p) once told me that Lil Richard was the prettiest man he ever saw, that can wear make up better than any woman. But Prince was WAY prettier than both Lil Richard & Chuck Berry. Lil Richard use to always say Prince(r.i.p.) was him in this generation. He just like Prince lived a FULL life and had MANY stories & secrets.

[Edited 5/13/19 16:29pm]

hendrix's dad told richards manager that jimi would "eat ten yards of shit" to play with little richard when he gave his ok for it. that's pretty much my feelings. richard doesn't look the same but his brain is sharp as ever and he's still funny. also, he tells the story of how he retired, a nephew of his told him he didn't sound good anymore and was afraid richard would get mad, richard listened and retired. that's humility. Jerry lee Lewis should probably think about not performing too but who would I be to say he should stop? I couldn't ever see Prince giving up anything gracefully, yet and still, as someone else correctly said, he could have done a million other things, produced, wrote, scored, he made the decisions he wanted to make. Someone on here, about 15 years ago, said that between richard and prince "one would die lonely and it won't be little richard". Sometimes I think of that. just found the actual quote from then:

[Edited 5/13/19 18:55pm]wrong. he has respect for his fans unlike Prince. one of the two will die sad and lonely and it ain't gonna be little Richard. Matthew 6:19-21.

[Edited 5/13/19 19:03pm]

I wonder was that the nephew I use to hang & be close with?!

That quote is A COMPLETE LIE! Prince(r.i.p.) had MUCH RESPECT for his fans. It's the reason he continued to play live and record until the day he transitioned. He actually died for his fans. Which makes his hit single "I would Die 4 U" more eerie.


So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #111 posted 05/13/19 8:13pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

hendrix's dad told richards manager that jimi would "eat ten yards of shit" to play with little richard when he gave his ok for it. that's pretty much my feelings. richard doesn't look the same but his brain is sharp as ever and he's still funny. also, he tells the story of how he retired, a nephew of his told him he didn't sound good anymore and was afraid richard would get mad, richard listened and retired. that's humility. Jerry lee Lewis should probably think about not performing too but who would I be to say he should stop? I couldn't ever see Prince giving up anything gracefully, yet and still, as someone else correctly said, he could have done a million other things, produced, wrote, scored, he made the decisions he wanted to make. Someone on here, about 15 years ago, said that between richard and prince "one would die lonely and it won't be little richard". Sometimes I think of that. just found the actual quote from then:

[Edited 5/13/19 18:55pm]wrong. he has respect for his fans unlike Prince. one of the two will die sad and lonely and it ain't gonna be little Richard. Matthew 6:19-21.

[Edited 5/13/19 19:03pm]

I wonder was that the nephew I use to hang & be close with?!

That quote is A COMPLETE LIE! Prince(r.i.p.) had MUCH RESPECT for his fans. It's the reason he continued to play live and record until the day he transitioned. He actually died for his fans. Which makes his hit single "I would Die 4 U" more eerie.


So Prince is Jesus now? Some fans are touched/dangerous.

lol it aint the estates fault you all devoured bootlegs and heard everything
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Reply #112 posted 05/13/19 9:09pm

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rdhull said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wonder was that the nephew I use to hang & be close with?!

That quote is A COMPLETE LIE! Prince(r.i.p.) had MUCH RESPECT for his fans. It's the reason he continued to play live and record until the day he transitioned. He actually died for his fans. Which makes his hit single "I would Die 4 U" more eerie.


So Prince is Jesus now? Some fans are touched/dangerous.



Thank You.



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Reply #113 posted 05/13/19 9:36pm

PeteSilas

rdhull said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wonder was that the nephew I use to hang & be close with?!

That quote is A COMPLETE LIE! Prince(r.i.p.) had MUCH RESPECT for his fans. It's the reason he continued to play live and record until the day he transitioned. He actually died for his fans. Which makes his hit single "I would Die 4 U" more eerie.


So Prince is Jesus now? Some fans are touched/dangerous.

come on, they didn't mean that, he did die for his art and his fans, absolutely. Ali gave up his brain for his art, Elvis died young for his, and don't forget, the words were prince's not chocolates, he said them and he probably felt guilty so he changed them but he knew what he was doing, he was likening himself to christ, Elvis did it, MJ was probably the worst as far as a messiah complex.

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Reply #114 posted 05/13/19 9:44pm

PeteSilas

I don't know but it was cute how Little Richard told it, how the nephew came in and made him promise not to get mad, then he told him he didn't sound good anymore. Richard listened and retired. Prince had respect for his fans but people could be forgiven for feeling the way that poster did back then, Prince was difficult but life expereince and losing mj/whitney and others made me see that Prince was actually not that bad at all and I cherished him. don't get me started on all the stories that came out after he died of all the good he did that never was said when he was alive.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

hendrix's dad told richards manager that jimi would "eat ten yards of shit" to play with little richard when he gave his ok for it. that's pretty much my feelings. richard doesn't look the same but his brain is sharp as ever and he's still funny. also, he tells the story of how he retired, a nephew of his told him he didn't sound good anymore and was afraid richard would get mad, richard listened and retired. that's humility. Jerry lee Lewis should probably think about not performing too but who would I be to say he should stop? I couldn't ever see Prince giving up anything gracefully, yet and still, as someone else correctly said, he could have done a million other things, produced, wrote, scored, he made the decisions he wanted to make. Someone on here, about 15 years ago, said that between richard and prince "one would die lonely and it won't be little richard". Sometimes I think of that. just found the actual quote from then:

[Edited 5/13/19 18:55pm]wrong. he has respect for his fans unlike Prince. one of the two will die sad and lonely and it ain't gonna be little Richard. Matthew 6:19-21.

[Edited 5/13/19 19:03pm]

I wonder was that the nephew I use to hang & be close with?!

That quote is A COMPLETE LIE! Prince(r.i.p.) had MUCH RESPECT for his fans. It's the reason he continued to play live and record until the day he transitioned. He actually died for his fans. Which makes his hit single "I would Die 4 U" more eerie.


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Reply #115 posted 05/13/19 9:51pm

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Krystalkisses said:

Wasn't Prince married to Manuela 15 years ago? That is quite the statement, I am amazed you found that. It is sad in how accurate it was, but I guess for perceptive people who were around him the end wasn't really shocking. Wow.

ya, i thought of it many times since prince's death, but i have to ad what scottie baldwin has said, his lonely "isn't your lonely". Prince liked being alone, so who's to say how "lonely" he was. also, i should mention, the post was from summer of 06, not quite 15 years ago but it feels that way.

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PeteSilas said:

I don't know but it was cute how Little Richard told it, how the nephew came in and made him promise not to get mad, then he told him he didn't sound good anymore. Richard listened and retired. Prince had respect for his fans but people could be forgiven for feeling the way that poster did back then, Prince was difficult but life expereince and losing mj/whitney and others made me see that Prince was actually not that bad at all and I cherished him. don't get me started on all the stories that came out after he died of all the good he did that never was said when he was alive.

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I wonder was that the nephew I use to hang & be close with?!

That quote is A COMPLETE LIE! Prince(r.i.p.) had MUCH RESPECT for his fans. It's the reason he continued to play live and record until the day he transitioned. He actually died for his fans. Which makes his hit single "I would Die 4 U" more eerie.


I use to always wish & suspected Prince(r.i.p.) would have been a minister. Like the path Lil Richard(and now Kanye whom i've worked with took) and left his music career. At one point he was on that path. He was so spiritually grounded. But his health got the best of him. A lot of people don't like Larry. But Larry actually extended Prince's(r.i.p.) life.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #117 posted 05/14/19 5:47am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wonder was that the nephew I use to hang & be close with?!

That quote is A COMPLETE LIE! Prince(r.i.p.) had MUCH RESPECT for his fans. It's the reason he continued to play live and record until the day he transitioned. He actually died for his fans. Which makes his hit single "I would Die 4 U" more eerie.


So Prince is Jesus now? Some fans are touched/dangerous.

One of the BIGGEST mistakes Prince(r.i.p.) EVER made was allowing U inside his 3121 house.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #118 posted 05/14/19 6:01am

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lastdecember said:

We cant be in Prince's head but also have to realize that he was human, and I feel death finally Humanized him to people that thought he was super human and not of this earth or something like that. We DO NOT know his mind those last years, but from what i heard from a few like his sister and a few others, there was a feeling of "I have done all this before" feeling like what else do I have to do, I think the solo tour was a shot at doing something he had not done, I also totally believe in this time he did not want others around him because he knew he had a problem and he didnt want people to know. If he toured with a big band or 3rd eye girl i think he wouldnt have felt he could hide it. So we really dont or will ever know, was he depressed was he alone he had to be feeling a real feeling of his own mortality and getting old, regardless of looking good for his age which he always did he for awhile had not been able to do things he could do in his late 30's and 40's so its all in how he took that. Some regardless of it can except it, maybe Prince couldnt, I mean what else did he have? He wasnt going to start acting or being a photographer and never tour and play live, that is what he lived for and now it was a problem to even do it, or why do it even.

Ok so then you just give up on life? I just dont get that mindset. There are many people as they age who lose the ability to do what they love and have to grapple with losing that safety net. I guess I just see the life span in a different way as it was my senior thesis in college and I worked in a nursing home while I was pregnant and saw old age, dying and death up close. But I agree we can't know what was inside his head but I find the people who are terrified of aging the most have deeper reasons for that, that go beyond just losing looks and not getting the attention you once did.

I dont think he gave up, but I really see things differently now then I first did when he passed. There are so many underlying personal issues that we will never know, but I have always believed that because prince was so private had never had any kinds of scandals in his life, the last thing he ever would want to be known for would be having an addiction to pain medication. We all know how the press runs with things, I mean the TMZ coverage of his plane landing and the cover story coming out that he had the flu. this was already spirialing and he was doing everything that someone who is trying to hide something does, he was scared, for all his preaching to others he in the end had become hooked, this HAD to be on his mind. And to put that all on top of other people he knew just dieing left and right, Bowie and Houston and Glen Frey and others and MJ I mean Prince locking himself away for 4 days from that death? Factor all that in with his own self, feeling like "what now" " what do I do, I have done it all, I'm the only one left" I think Prince was dealing with more than just pain. Music was his life I know that to the average person we dont get how losing those abilities would effect a person, but I mean Prince really had nothing else at this point, no wife no domestic life, he was all for playing and after parties and that was now gone. His last tour he was saying that "they wont let me or he couldnt play guitar" I mean there's so much here.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #119 posted 05/14/19 8:07am

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just wish that Joshua kept away from it...

hate those 'artificial' winds and woosh sounds and telephone voices...

not very fond of the background singers either.

I do love L. La Havas, but here on this track... naaah!

strings are beautiful but mixed way back to the front, and the thing I miss most in this song is the guitar. It should've been a guitar driven track, with a phat heart tearing guitar solo.

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to me it does not sound as a Prince track, although the lyrics are truely him.

It isn't hunting enough (although it sounds like a promise throughout the song)

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I don't get the goose bumps.

imho of course

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Prince wrote the song to Joshua's track.

Say what you will, but without Joshua's instrumental, "Way Back Home" wouldn't have existed.

His production on that album inspired Prince.

Joshua evolved immensely as a producer from his Counter Culture days and I believe it was Paisley Park's environment and Prince's encouragement that did that.

His work on Judith's album and Golden Hippie's single "Stones" (which P co-wrote) are really good.

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