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Reply #90 posted 05/04/19 10:27am

Nuernberg72

violetcrush said:

Mumio said:



funksterr said:




He was on fansites all day every day since AOL first became a thing.





lol Whaaaaat? You mean he actually knew how to use a computer and navigate the internet?? No way!!!! lol wink


Yeah, but a very basic user I’m sure. Navigating sites yes - installing software and hardware, no. And I would imagine his basic skills were not “self-taught”. I’m sure his crew that handled technology at PP sat down with him to show him what to do.

First the crew showed P how to use the Internet and then they brushed Prince's teeth;))))
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Reply #91 posted 05/04/19 11:13am

violetcrush

Nuernberg72 said:

violetcrush said:


Yeah, but a very basic user I’m sure. Navigating sites yes - installing software and hardware, no. And I would imagine his basic skills were not “self-taught”. I’m sure his crew that handled technology at PP sat down with him to show him what to do.

First the crew showed P how to use the Internet and then they brushed Prince's teeth;))))


Welp, I was a software trainer for an insurance company in the mid 90’s when the “interwebs” biggrin was just getting started, and the majority of clients I was training who were in Prince’s age bracket were typically clueless about navigation.
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Add to that a guy who had someone slotted to do anything and every little thing FOR him (cook, clean, drive, hair, schedule, clothes...) and it’s not hard to believe that he would need training on how to use a PC - at least initially.
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Reply #92 posted 05/04/19 1:45pm

PeteSilas

in those days, there wasn't as much to navigating "surfing the web" pretty much anyone could do it, no youtube, no vids, even pics took awhile to download, i can't see anyone needing a lot of training to use it.

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Reply #93 posted 05/04/19 4:13pm

violetcrush

PeteSilas said:

in those days, there wasn't as much to navigating "surfing the web" pretty much anyone could do it, no youtube, no vids, even pics took awhile to download, i can't see anyone needing a lot of training to use it.


You’d be surprised. I had people in my classes who had been working in an office environment for many years, but only processing business manually or using a mainframe system - remember those? Black screen with one font and F commands to move around the program. They would come to my class and not only would they not know how to use a Mouse, they had no idea how to use the Nav bars and hyperlinks. The first topic of my class was to teach them the new tech terms (web address, navigation bar, hyperlink, etc). Then they had to get comfortable using a Mouse - left click to select, right click for drop down window. I’m telling you - NO clue.
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Reply #94 posted 05/04/19 6:05pm

PeteSilas

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

in those days, there wasn't as much to navigating "surfing the web" pretty much anyone could do it, no youtube, no vids, even pics took awhile to download, i can't see anyone needing a lot of training to use it.


You’d be surprised. I had people in my classes who had been working in an office environment for many years, but only processing business manually or using a mainframe system - remember those? Black screen with one font and F commands to move around the program. They would come to my class and not only would they not know how to use a Mouse, they had no idea how to use the Nav bars and hyperlinks. The first topic of my class was to teach them the new tech terms (web address, navigation bar, hyperlink, etc). Then they had to get comfortable using a Mouse - left click to select, right click for drop down window. I’m telling you - NO clue.


I guess I can believe that. Some people can't figure out shit on their own.
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Reply #95 posted 05/04/19 7:07pm

violetcrush

PeteSilas said:

violetcrush said:


You’d be surprised. I had people in my classes who had been working in an office environment for many years, but only processing business manually or using a mainframe system - remember those? Black screen with one font and F commands to move around the program. They would come to my class and not only would they not know how to use a Mouse, they had no idea how to use the Nav bars and hyperlinks. The first topic of my class was to teach them the new tech terms (web address, navigation bar, hyperlink, etc). Then they had to get comfortable using a Mouse - left click to select, right click for drop down window. I’m telling you - NO clue.


I guess I can believe that. Some people can't figure out shot on their own.

I think it was mainly a generational thing. The younger folks were usually fine. They either already knew the functionality or were quick learners.
*
Prince was usually busy recording or performing, so I dob’t see him having a lot of extra time to devote to learning the new technology. Although, he was very much in the mix with ideas for getting his music online and the “interactive” sites, but he had people setting that up for him.
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Reply #96 posted 05/04/19 8:10pm

ChocolateBox31
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violetcrush said:

Mumio said:



lol Whaaaaat? You mean he actually knew how to use a computer and navigate the internet?? No way!!!! lol wink

Yeah, but a very basic user I’m sure. Navigating sites yes - installing software and hardware, no. And I would imagine his basic skills were not “self-taught”. I’m sure his crew that handled technology at PP sat down with him to show him what to do.

Prince(r.i.p.) wasn't good at tweeting. I remember I sent him a tweet of a flawless,immaculate, framed poster in my bedroom and instead of retweeting it he copied & pasted it and sent it out. But I forgave him.because I know he liked it. giggle


So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #97 posted 05/04/19 8:39pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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His handle was BartVanham...or something
President Turd is the shit.
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Reply #98 posted 05/04/19 8:39pm

TrcikyChristop
her

violetcrush said:

Mumio said:



lol Whaaaaat? You mean he actually knew how to use a computer and navigate the internet?? No way!!!! lol wink

Yeah, but a very basic user I’m sure. Navigating sites yes - installing software and hardware, no. And I would imagine his basic skills were not “self-taught”. I’m sure his crew that handled technology at PP sat down with him to show him what to do.

I remember receiving a pretty longwinded email response from him via email in typical "I'm not going to answer the question directly" Prince fashion. I first asked him a very simple question about his then-new faith and other things I'm not going to mention. Surprisingly, he emailed me back in the middle of the night, with an email that was a few paragraphs. He was very cryptic when when avoiding a subject, but very direct when it came to his music and the business that came with it. I wish I still had those papers or at least backups of the emails but AOL purges your account 6 years after you close it.

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Reply #99 posted 05/04/19 9:40pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:
I guess I can believe that. Some people can't figure out shot on their own.
I think it was mainly a generational thing. The younger folks were usually fine. They either already knew the functionality or were quick learners. * Prince was usually busy recording or performing, so I dob’t see him having a lot of extra time to devote to learning the new technology. Although, he was very much in the mix with ideas for getting his music online and the “interactive” sites, but he had people setting that up for him.

Keep telling yourself this.

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Reply #100 posted 05/05/19 1:56am

PeteSilas

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



violetcrush said:


PeteSilas said:
I guess I can believe that. Some people can't figure out shot on their own.

I think it was mainly a generational thing. The younger folks were usually fine. They either already knew the functionality or were quick learners. * Prince was usually busy recording or performing, so I dob’t see him having a lot of extra time to devote to learning the new technology. Although, he was very much in the mix with ideas for getting his music online and the “interactive” sites, but he had people setting that up for him.

Keep telling yourself this.


UFO had some prince correspondence too.i know someone from Chanhassen looked at my website in the middle of the night.
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Reply #101 posted 05/05/19 5:57am

violetcrush

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



violetcrush said:


PeteSilas said:
I guess I can believe that. Some people can't figure out shot on their own.

I think it was mainly a generational thing. The younger folks were usually fine. They either already knew the functionality or were quick learners. * Prince was usually busy recording or performing, so I dob’t see him having a lot of extra time to devote to learning the new technology. Although, he was very much in the mix with ideas for getting his music online and the “interactive” sites, but he had people setting that up for him.

Keep telling yourself this.


Obviously, he would have known the functionality by a certain point. What I’m saying is that from c. 1993-1996, when his team at PP was probably setting up all equipment to access the internet - I don’t think he sat down in front of the PC himself and started dialing up the modem (remember dial-up?) and then knew where to go from there. He was artistic - not “techy”.
*
Steve Parke would be a good one to ask about his early PC skills. He was doing his album art work in the early 90’s.
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Reply #102 posted 05/05/19 6:10am

zranta

kewlschool said:

PeteSilas said:

tell us about it please.

He just sent a message that he appreciated my appreciation of him, essentially. I think he liked how I responded to the negative people who tried to derail the thread. I request that people only post positive messages and no back handed compliments. Yet, that didn't stop people from being negative. I handle the situation with care and of course no name calling.

unfortunately the back handed comments and slamming of others posts is a typical attitude among any forum - there is always someone who "thinks" they know better lol. Fair play for voicing out

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Reply #103 posted 05/05/19 12:24pm

erik319

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violetcrush said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



violetcrush said:


PeteSilas said:
I guess I can believe that. Some people can't figure out shot on their own.

I think it was mainly a generational thing. The younger folks were usually fine. They either already knew the functionality or were quick learners. * Prince was usually busy recording or performing, so I dob’t see him having a lot of extra time to devote to learning the new technology. Although, he was very much in the mix with ideas for getting his music online and the “interactive” sites, but he had people setting that up for him.

Keep telling yourself this.


Obviously, he would have known the functionality by a certain point. What I’m saying is that from c. 1993-1996, when his team at PP was probably setting up all equipment to access the internet - I don’t think he sat down in front of the PC himself and started dialing up the modem (remember dial-up?) and then knew where to go from there. He was artistic - not “techy”.
*
Steve Parke would be a good one to ask about his early PC skills. He was doing his album art work in the early 90’s.


He was in his mid 30s & tech mad when the internet came into prominence. He not only could "use" it, he was a massive advocate for it, to the point of writing songs about it & having a forward thinking vision of ppv concert streaming...
At a point when the information superhighway was still a dirt track.


He didn't need a team of helpers to click 'connect' why is he being made out to be a 90 year old doddery person?
blah blah blah
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Reply #104 posted 05/05/19 2:36pm

Grog

I think "Grog" was one of the handles he used.

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Reply #105 posted 05/05/19 3:06pm

laytonian

violetcrush said:

Nuernberg72 said:
First the crew showed P how to use the Internet and then they brushed Prince's teeth;))))
Welp, I was a software trainer for an insurance company in the mid 90’s when the “interwebs” biggrin was just getting started, and the majority of clients I was training who were in Prince’s age bracket were typically clueless about navigation. * Add to that a guy who had someone slotted to do anything and every little thing FOR him (cook, clean, drive, hair, schedule, clothes...) and it’s not hard to believe that he would need training on how to use a PC - at least initially.

Because you were a TRAINER.
Honey, some of the "old people" you denigrate were on the internet before there was a world-wide web. And before that, we were using computers to manage ideas and federal-corporate data.
Literacy of any kind has nothing to do with age.


How did YOU learn "to use a PC - at least initially"?
Was it some talent instilled in you at birth?

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #106 posted 05/05/19 3:11pm

laytonian

erik319 said:

He was in his mid 30s & tech mad when the internet came into prominence. He not only could "use" it, he was a massive advocate for it, to the point of writing songs about it & having a forward thinking vision of ppv concert streaming... At a point when the information superhighway was still a dirt track. He didn't need a team of helpers to click 'connect' why is he being made out to be a 90 year old doddery person?

Exactly.
Little trainers were always so interesting when they came into our offices, trying to teach us "the basics of email" when we'd been doing it for years. Yes, even through a black screen and Unix commands.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #107 posted 05/05/19 3:22pm

Mumio

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laytonian said:

erik319 said:

He was in his mid 30s & tech mad when the internet came into prominence. He not only could "use" it, he was a massive advocate for it, to the point of writing songs about it & having a forward thinking vision of ppv concert streaming... At a point when the information superhighway was still a dirt track. He didn't need a team of helpers to click 'connect' why is he being made out to be a 90 year old doddery person?

Exactly.
Little trainers were always so interesting when they came into our offices, trying to teach us "the basics of email" when we'd been doing it for years. Yes, even through a black screen and Unix commands.



lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #108 posted 05/05/19 3:50pm

violetcrush

laytonian said:



violetcrush said:


Nuernberg72 said:
First the crew showed P how to use the Internet and then they brushed Prince's teeth;))))

Welp, I was a software trainer for an insurance company in the mid 90’s when the “interwebs” biggrin was just getting started, and the majority of clients I was training who were in Prince’s age bracket were typically clueless about navigation. * Add to that a guy who had someone slotted to do anything and every little thing FOR him (cook, clean, drive, hair, schedule, clothes...) and it’s not hard to believe that he would need training on how to use a PC - at least initially.


Because you were a TRAINER.
Honey, some of the "old people" you denigrate were on the internet before there was a world-wide web. And before that, we were using computers to manage ideas and federal-corporate data.
Literacy of any kind has nothing to do with age.



How did YOU learn "to use a PC - at least initially"?
Was it some talent instilled in you at birth?


Not at all. Of course I had to learn, however, while Prince was recording music 24/7 and touring most months out of the year I was in HS and then college taking computer programming classes - first to learn Basic, and then Windows OS. My post was in response to another stating Prince was most likely “self-taught”. He WAS NOT spending his time at a PC learning how it works. When would there have been time for that after recording or playing all night and then sleeping most of the morning/afternoon??
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And I’m certainly NOT denigrating older people. I was explaining what I typically experienced in my classes - those who were a bit older and had been using a basic mainframe application had a harder time understanding and adjusting to Windows based applications and navigating the internet.
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My 12 yr old daughter is often quicker than I am with device/app functionality. It’s just a typical situation.
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Reply #109 posted 05/05/19 3:59pm

violetcrush

laytonian said:



erik319 said:


He was in his mid 30s & tech mad when the internet came into prominence. He not only could "use" it, he was a massive advocate for it, to the point of writing songs about it & having a forward thinking vision of ppv concert streaming... At a point when the information superhighway was still a dirt track. He didn't need a team of helpers to click 'connect' why is he being made out to be a 90 year old doddery person?


Exactly.
Little trainers were always so interesting when they came into our offices, trying to teach us "the basics of email" when we'd been doing it for years. Yes, even through a black screen and Unix commands.



Sorry, but I was not one of those “little trainers” you describe. I was a regional trainer (holding classes in 3 regions and on site) and taught classes of 20-25 people. I always assessed their individual skills/knowledge prior to starting the class. After giving the presentation I focused my attention on those who needed help. Those who didn’t were free to move at their own pace. This was 1995-1998. You’d be surprised how many really did not know what to do.
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Reply #110 posted 05/05/19 4:36pm

violetcrush

erik319 said:

violetcrush said:


Obviously, he would have known the functionality by a certain point. What I’m saying is that from c. 1993-1996, when his team at PP was probably setting up all equipment to access the internet - I don’t think he sat down in front of the PC himself and started dialing up the modem (remember dial-up?) and then knew where to go from there. He was artistic - not “techy”.
*
Steve Parke would be a good one to ask about his early PC skills. He was doing his album art work in the early 90’s.


He was in his mid 30s & tech mad when the internet came into prominence. He not only could "use" it, he was a massive advocate for it, to the point of writing songs about it & having a forward thinking vision of ppv concert streaming...
At a point when the information superhighway was still a dirt track.


He didn't need a team of helpers to click 'connect' why is he being made out to be a 90 year old doddery person?


I never said he needed a team of helpers to hit “connect”. What I said was that someone would have initially shown him what to do.
*
So you think he was actually the one designing and setting up the interactive sites?? Not sure how he would have had that free time in the midst of recording or playing through the night and sleeping until late morning/early afternoon. Of course he had a guy, or team of people designing and developing the sites. Did he have those ideas? Yes, he did. However, he hired people to implement them.
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Reply #111 posted 05/05/19 5:33pm

PeteSilas

I tend to think that there were plenty of both, those that wanted to learn and the older, more stuck in their ways people. I went back to college in my mid thirties and I have to say, it seemed a lot harder for me to pick up a lot of things than when i was younger, didn't have the same drive, energy or interest and even now, i have several programs for film and music that i never get around to learning because I just know it's going to be a pain in the ass. the good thing about computers? as a musician, it was possible for me to compose and imitate an entire band,, the bad side? computers and digital equipement is a lot more difficult and glitchy to work with and as I get older, i really don't want to go through that again. Not everyone is the same, I've had teachers in their 60's who stayed on top of new software/techniques etc.., like a young person would. I tend to think most people are like my stepdad and my mentor who would ask me to set his digital clocks twice a year and were both far from stupid but just stuck in old ways of thinking. My stepdad still shows me his record collection and can't grasp that he could have all of it and more on a thumbdrive.

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Reply #112 posted 05/05/19 5:58pm

violetcrush

PeteSilas said:

I tend to think that there were plenty of both, those that wanted to learn and the older, more stuck in their ways people. I went back to college in my mid thirties and I have to say, it seemed a lot harder for me to pick up a lot of things than when i was younger, didn't have the same drive, energy or interest and even now, i have several programs for film and music that i never get around to learning because I just know it's going to be a pain in the ass. the good thing about computers? as a musician, it was possible for me to compose and imitate an entire band,, the bad side? computers and digital equipement is a lot more difficult and glitchy to work with and as I get older, i really don't want to go through that again. Not everyone is the same, I've had teachers in their 60's who stayed on top of new software/techniques etc.., like a young person would. I tend to think most people are like my stepdad and my mentor who would ask me to set his digital clocks twice a year and were both far from stupid but just stuck in old ways of thinking. My stepdad still shows me his record collection and can't grasp that he could have all of it and more on a thumbdrive.


I totally agree with you. There are those who, despite being older, are still motivated and able to grasp new technology - assuming they have the time to devote to learning it. My main point was that I just don’t see Prince having or taking the time to learn the tech stuff on his own. He hired people to do just about everything for him, because he wanted to focus on music 24/7. I would love to ask Steve Parke about it, or the guy who set up the first interactive site - forgot his name, or even Alan Leeds.
*
I have no doubt that Prince was reading about and watching shows about future technology as far back as the 70’s and 80’s and coming up with ideas. However, I don’t think he was sitting at the PC designing and implementing. He told the guys what he wanted and they did the work.
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Reply #113 posted 05/05/19 9:21pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

I tend to think that there were plenty of both, those that wanted to learn and the older, more stuck in their ways people. I went back to college in my mid thirties and I have to say, it seemed a lot harder for me to pick up a lot of things than when i was younger, didn't have the same drive, energy or interest and even now, i have several programs for film and music that i never get around to learning because I just know it's going to be a pain in the ass. the good thing about computers? as a musician, it was possible for me to compose and imitate an entire band,, the bad side? computers and digital equipement is a lot more difficult and glitchy to work with and as I get older, i really don't want to go through that again. Not everyone is the same, I've had teachers in their 60's who stayed on top of new software/techniques etc.., like a young person would. I tend to think most people are like my stepdad and my mentor who would ask me to set his digital clocks twice a year and were both far from stupid but just stuck in old ways of thinking. My stepdad still shows me his record collection and can't grasp that he could have all of it and more on a thumbdrive.

I totally agree with you. There are those who, despite being older, are still motivated and able to grasp new technology - assuming they have the time to devote to learning it. My main point was that I just don’t see Prince having or taking the time to learn the tech stuff on his own. He hired people to do just about everything for him, because he wanted to focus on music 24/7. I would love to ask Steve Parke about it, or the guy who set up the first interactive site - forgot his name, or even Alan Leeds. * I have no doubt that Prince was reading about and watching shows about future technology as far back as the 70’s and 80’s and coming up with ideas. However, I don’t think he was sitting at the PC designing and implementing. He told the guys what he wanted and they did the work.



Quit.


lol lol

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Reply #114 posted 05/06/19 4:48am

violetcrush

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



violetcrush said:


PeteSilas said:

I tend to think that there were plenty of both, those that wanted to learn and the older, more stuck in their ways people. I went back to college in my mid thirties and I have to say, it seemed a lot harder for me to pick up a lot of things than when i was younger, didn't have the same drive, energy or interest and even now, i have several programs for film and music that i never get around to learning because I just know it's going to be a pain in the ass. the good thing about computers? as a musician, it was possible for me to compose and imitate an entire band,, the bad side? computers and digital equipement is a lot more difficult and glitchy to work with and as I get older, i really don't want to go through that again. Not everyone is the same, I've had teachers in their 60's who stayed on top of new software/techniques etc.., like a young person would. I tend to think most people are like my stepdad and my mentor who would ask me to set his digital clocks twice a year and were both far from stupid but just stuck in old ways of thinking. My stepdad still shows me his record collection and can't grasp that he could have all of it and more on a thumbdrive.



I totally agree with you. There are those who, despite being older, are still motivated and able to grasp new technology - assuming they have the time to devote to learning it. My main point was that I just don’t see Prince having or taking the time to learn the tech stuff on his own. He hired people to do just about everything for him, because he wanted to focus on music 24/7. I would love to ask Steve Parke about it, or the guy who set up the first interactive site - forgot his name, or even Alan Leeds. * I have no doubt that Prince was reading about and watching shows about future technology as far back as the 70’s and 80’s and coming up with ideas. However, I don’t think he was sitting at the PC designing and implementing. He told the guys what he wanted and they did the work.



Quit.


lol lol


Nah, I usually answer responses to my posts that debate my points. What can I say, I like a good debate cool
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Reply #115 posted 05/06/19 7:25am

Genesia

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violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

in those days, there wasn't as much to navigating "surfing the web" pretty much anyone could do it, no youtube, no vids, even pics took awhile to download, i can't see anyone needing a lot of training to use it.

You’d be surprised. I had people in my classes who had been working in an office environment for many years, but only processing business manually or using a mainframe system - remember those? Black screen with one font and F commands to move around the program. They would come to my class and not only would they not know how to use a Mouse, they had no idea how to use the Nav bars and hyperlinks. The first topic of my class was to teach them the new tech terms (web address, navigation bar, hyperlink, etc). Then they had to get comfortable using a Mouse - left click to select, right click for drop down window. I’m telling you - NO clue.


I was working in the Wisconsin legislature when PCs came in. Prior to that, we had one - or maybe two - computers in each office. Very basic - they ran Word Perfect and some simple database programs.

When our office was scheduled to get the new computers in 1996, we had a class with the staff from a couple other offices. An older lady who had worked in the legislature for years and had never worked with a computer, took one look at the mouse, picked it up, and started clicking it at the monitor like it was a TV remote. lol

We got her straightened around eventually.

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We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #116 posted 05/06/19 8:00am

violetcrush

Genesia said:



violetcrush said:


PeteSilas said:

in those days, there wasn't as much to navigating "surfing the web" pretty much anyone could do it, no youtube, no vids, even pics took awhile to download, i can't see anyone needing a lot of training to use it.



You’d be surprised. I had people in my classes who had been working in an office environment for many years, but only processing business manually or using a mainframe system - remember those? Black screen with one font and F commands to move around the program. They would come to my class and not only would they not know how to use a Mouse, they had no idea how to use the Nav bars and hyperlinks. The first topic of my class was to teach them the new tech terms (web address, navigation bar, hyperlink, etc). Then they had to get comfortable using a Mouse - left click to select, right click for drop down window. I’m telling you - NO clue.


I was working in the Wisconsin legislature when PCs came in. Prior to that, we had one - or maybe two - computers in each office. Very basic - they ran Word Perfect and some simple database programs.

When our office was scheduled to get the new computers in 1996, we had a class with the staff from a couple other offices. An older lady who had worked in the legislature for years and had never worked with a computer, took one look at the mouse, picked it up, and started clicking it at the monitor like it was a TV remote. lol



We got her straightened around eventually.

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THANK YOU!! Yes, this is exactly what I was trying to explain. I actually had people, both older and younger, who because they didn’t understand the functionality, would complain about the “new process” and criticize the way they now had to use the system.
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Those who were too young or not around during the switch from DOS/Mainframe to Windows OS applications don’t understand what it was like for those who were older and had spent years using the basic applications. The Mouse, Nav Bars, Windows Icons, saving documents to a “file folder”...ALL foreign stuff for them - like learning a foreign language.
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Genesia said:


I was working in the Wisconsin legislature when PCs came in. Prior to that, we had one - or maybe two - computers in each office. Very basic - they ran Word Perfect and some simple database programs.

When our office was scheduled to get the new computers in 1996, we had a class with the staff from a couple other offices. An older lady who had worked in the legislature for years and had never worked with a computer, took one look at the mouse, picked it up, and started clicking it at the monitor like it was a TV remote. lol

We got her straightened around eventually.

THANK YOU!! Yes, this is exactly what I was trying to explain. I actually had people, both older and younger, who because they didn’t understand the functionality, would complain about the “new process” and criticize the way they now had to use the system. * Those who were too young or not around during the switch from DOS/Mainframe to Windows OS applications don’t understand what it was like for those who were older and had spent years using the basic applications. The Mouse, Nav Bars, Windows Icons, saving documents to a “file folder”...ALL foreign stuff for them - like learning a foreign language.


Up until the early 2000s, I had a co-worker (different job) who would send me messages from the mainframe emulator on his PC. I was part of the Mac community at the company, so getting to the mainframe functions was even trickier for me. I finally told him, "Dude - just send me a frickin' email through [whatever email program we were using at the time] wouldja?" lol

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Reply #118 posted 05/06/19 9:35am

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databank said: Oh yes, I’ve seen some of those threads. Shame that folks were so harsh not long before he passed sad I think his music/shows with 3EG is/were very good. I like the rock sound.

You know, it's a bit harsh and I don't wanna hurt anyone because some of those are still here (though most of them have disappeared or become apologetic), but I have to admit I have wondered: are they happy now that Prince is over and done, and unable to release any new music that would upset them? Feels like the haters have won sad On the other hand those haters who have become all Prince-loving ever since while they were vomiting hate day in day out when he was alive, I can respect that they've been shaken too by P's death, or that they wanna try and show some dignity now, but dignity isn't just about respecting the dead, it's also, maybe mostly about respecting the living. I hope they remember that next time they wanna trash any living artist or person who may read their posts online...

What I got from you wrote is that you feel the void too. We all do. I was frustrated when he alive by fans who kept wanting new music and tours, when his health wasn't up to it. Honestly, if the pills hadn't taken such a toll on him those final years, he would still be around... funkin by day, cheating death on a nightly basis because going to the doctor reminds him that he's mortal(ish). biggrin

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Reply #119 posted 05/06/19 9:55am

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databank said: Oh yes, I’ve seen some of those threads. Shame that folks were so harsh not long before he passed sad I think his music/shows with 3EG is/were very good. I like the rock sound.

You know, it's a bit harsh and I don't wanna hurt anyone because some of those are still here (though most of them have disappeared or become apologetic), but I have to admit I have wondered: are they happy now that Prince is over and done, and unable to release any new music that would upset them? Feels like the haters have won sad On the other hand those haters who have become all Prince-loving ever since while they were vomiting hate day in day out when he was alive, I can respect that they've been shaken too by P's death, or that they wanna try and show some dignity now, but dignity isn't just about respecting the dead, it's also, maybe mostly about respecting the living. I hope they remember that next time they wanna trash any living artist or person who may read their posts online...

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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