ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PennyPurple said:

Looks like the Estate is still cracking down:

They sent this letter to Chazz

Chazz needs to be shut down.

Hopefully the estate will do that. People don't seem to get that "family" isn't the same as "heirs" and there's no right to anything about Prince beyond his court-declared heirs and the estate.

[Edited 5/24/19 23:18pm]

Dalia11 said:

Yes, high quality live releases would be great. And why not support the You Tube fan community who are already doing the promotional work, to bring in the next generation.

Intellectual property is just that: a mirage.

An idea in someone's mind, enforced with violence.

The man is dead.

So why would they want to instill the idea of 'property' into heads?

To profit!

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If we put this against the wastefulness or rather the lack of efficieny of the 'estate' versus the inefficiency of Prince's ways of paying the bills, etc then mr. Prince still wins by far.

The childish heirs use their perceived power to litigate without seeing that them laywer-types are the only ones that really gain.

Having meetings without advisors, lawyers etc is way cheaper: less time then has to be spent to iron out the disagreements.

Where is the music? Where are the discs?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PennyPurple said:

Looks like the Estate is still cracking down:

They sent this letter to Chazz

Chazz needs to be shut down.

^^^^^THIS
Second or third cuzz has quite an enterprise going.

laytonian said:

What is his enterprise?

MoodyBlumes said:

laytonian said:

^^^^^THIS
Second or third cuzz has quite an enterprise going.

What is his enterprise?

Selling tours, t-shirts, etc.

laytonian said:

What sort of tours? I see 2 t shirt styles on sale, all proceeds going towards an independent investigation of Prince's death. Amazon is full of Prince paraphenalia.
[Edited 5/26/19 21:22pm]

Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Chazz needs to be shut down.

Hopefully the estate will do that. People don't seem to get that "family" isn't the same as "heirs" and there's no right to anything about Prince beyond his court-declared heirs and the estate.

[Edited 5/24/19 23:18pm]

Chaz wasn't the only one using Prince's(r.i.p.) likeness to sell merchandise. What about Sheila E & Shelby J. ?

MoodyBlumes said:

laytonian said:

Selling tours, t-shirts, etc.

What sort of tours? I see 2 t shirt styles on sale, all proceeds going towards an independent investigation of Prince's death. Amazon is full of Prince paraphenalia. [Edited 5/26/19 21:22pm]

Chazz has given many "Prince tours" in MPLS as well as selling t-shirts for undetermined reasons.
At the time he was selling all those things, claiming to be conducting that "investigation", he admitted to Michael Dean that he hadn't even read the investigative reports.
He has done no investigation, unless you mean the typical baseless claims that many others have made.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Mumio said:

Hopefully the estate will do that. People don't seem to get that "family" isn't the same as "heirs" and there's no right to anything about Prince beyond his court-declared heirs and the estate.

[Edited 5/24/19 23:18pm]

Chaz wasn't the only one using Prince's(r.i.p.) likeness to sell merchandise. What about Sheila E & Shelby J. ?

"So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal"

Fix your who/whom problem first, then I'll tell ya.

laytonian said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Chaz wasn't the only one using Prince's(r.i.p.) likeness to sell merchandise. What about Sheila E & Shelby J. ?

"So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal"

Fix your who/whom problem first, then I'll tell ya.

So is the issue the investigation or the sales of t shirts? Amazon is brimming with Prince paraphenalia, so unless the estate shuts down everyone, I don't see why Chazz should be singled out. He is actually Prince's family.

[Edited 5/27/19 14:48pm]

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Are they paying the estate for the use of the symbol? Or perhaps they got approval prior to using it?

rogifan said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Chaz wasn't the only one using Prince's(r.i.p.) likeness to sell merchandise. What about Sheila E & Shelby J. ?

Are they paying the estate for the use of the symbol? Or perhaps they got approval prior to using it?

Maybe they did. Because they're still using it.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Many people are using it. You can buy Prince symbol cufflinks on Amazon.

MoodyBlumes said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Maybe they did. Because they're still using it.

Many people are using it. You can buy Prince symbol cufflinks on Amazon.

[Edited 5/27/19 18:14pm]

ChocolateBox3121 said:

There you go... but you are not profiting, at least here

laytonian said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Chaz wasn't the only one using Prince's(r.i.p.) likeness to sell merchandise. What about Sheila E & Shelby J. ?

"So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal"

Fix your who/whom problem first, then I'll tell ya.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Mumio said:

Hopefully the estate will do that. People don't seem to get that "family" isn't the same as "heirs" and there's no right to anything about Prince beyond his court-declared heirs and the estate.

[Edited 5/24/19 23:18pm]

Chaz wasn't the only one using Prince's(r.i.p.) likeness to sell merchandise. What about Sheila E & Shelby J. ?

What, with all your insider info, you don't have a connect to the heirs? That is who you should direct your question to, not me. Good old cuz has a sense of entitlement irt Prince that has no basis in reality in my opinion. Prince had a lot of family, don't see the others showing out like this one. He's no different than any of the other coat-tail riders.

Mumio said:

Many around Prince have a sense of entitlement... Did you know that there are people who crowdfunded Kim Berry's book still haven't received their copies? Don't be too hard on cuz.

MoodyBlumes said:

Mumio said:

What, with all your insider info, you don't have a connect to the heirs? That is who you should direct your question to, not me. Good old cuz has a sense of entitlement irt Prince that has no basis in reality in my opinion. Prince had a lot of family, don't see the others showing out like this one. He's no different than any of the other coat-tail riders.

Many around Prince have a sense of entitlement... Did you know that there are people who crowdfunded Kim Berry's book still haven't received their copies? Don't be too hard on cuz.

I agree.

Yes, I know they haven't, if it were me I'd be livid...but I would have had recourse because I would have used my credit card through Paypal and I'd dispute through both my bank and Paypal. Either way, a really shitty thing to do to those who wanted to help out to get the book published.

I'm no harder on cuz than he deserves. I had that one pegged from the word go Prince didn't have him hanging around and that's good enough for me.

Mumio said:

So you're wanting the estate to shut down everyone, right? Prince t shirts and many other Prince related items are being sold everywhere.

Mumio said:

That it in a nutshell.

MoodyBlumes said:

Mumio said:

I agree.

Yes, I know they haven't, if it were me I'd be livid...but I would have had recourse because I would have used my credit card through Paypal and I'd dispute through both my bank and Paypal. Either way, a really shitty thing to do to those who wanted to help out to get the book published.

I'm no harder on cuz than he deserves. I had that one pegged from the word go Prince didn't have him hanging around and that's good enough for me.

So you're wanting the estate to shut down everyone, right? Prince t shirts and many other Prince related items are being sold everywhere.

The estate is making these decisions, as it should be. They are determining the criteria, not me. And cuz has been notified by the estate, more than once, to stop what he is doing. He likes the attention he's gained using the cuz angle, because no one was checking for his butt before Prince left us. Fershure

Mumio said:

Nobody was checking for Kim Berry's but either, or Mayte's and many others profiting and becoming infamous on the heels of Prince's demise. I recently heard the estate had spent something like 45 million since Prince's death...hope it's been worth it. Those on You Tube working tirelessly to promote his legacy for free are regularly shut down if they use more than a few second clip. The estate seems to expect people to fly to Minnesota to see video of his live work. It'll be interesting to see how Prince's estate/legacy will survive. Sharon Nelson estimates bankruptcy by the end of the year.
[Edited 5/29/19 16:41pm]

MoodyBlumes said:

Mumio said:

The estate is making these decisions, as it should be. They are determining the criteria, not me. And cuz has been notified by the estate, more than once, to stop what he is doing. He likes the attention he's gained using the cuz angle, because no one was checking for his butt before Prince left us. Fershure

Nobody was checking for Kim Berry's but either, or Mayte's and many others profiting and becoming infamous on the heels of Prince's demise. I recently heard the estate had spent something like 45 million since Prince's death...hope it's been worth it. Those on You Tube working tirelessly to promote his legacy for free are regularly shut down if they use more than a few second clip. The estate seems to expect people to fly to Minnesota to see video of his live work. It'll be interesting to see how Prince's estate/legacy will survive. Sharon Nelson estimates bankruptcy by the end of the year. [Edited 5/29/19 16:41pm]

Hearsay


Def.

MoodyBlumes said:

Mumio said:

The estate is making these decisions, as it should be. They are determining the criteria, not me. And cuz has been notified by the estate, more than once, to stop what he is doing. He likes the attention he's gained using the cuz angle, because no one was checking for his butt before Prince left us. Fershure

Nobody was checking for Kim Berry's but either, or Mayte's and many others profiting and becoming infamous on the heels of Prince's demise. I recently heard the estate had spent something like 45 million since Prince's death...hope it's been worth it. Those on You Tube working tirelessly to promote his legacy for free are regularly shut down if they use more than a few second clip. The estate seems to expect people to fly to Minnesota to see video of his live work. It'll be interesting to see how Prince's estate/legacy will survive. Sharon Nelson estimates bankruptcy by the end of the year. [Edited 5/29/19 16:41pm]

Welp, I don't give a crap about any of them. Not sure where you're coming from with any of this but whatever.

Oh, and don't listen to Sharon, she who never set foot in Paisley Park until after his death. What's that tell you? I'll wager money that she is wrong about that. She's mad because the judge didn't do what she wants. Too bad, so sad

[Edited 5/29/19 17:04pm]

Mumio said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Mumio said: Many around Prince have a sense of entitlement... Did you know that there are people who crowdfunded Kim Berry's book still haven't received their copies? Don't be too hard on cuz.

I agree.

Yes, I know they haven't, if it were me I'd be livid...but I would have had recourse because I would have used my credit card through Paypal and I'd dispute through both my bank and Paypal. Either way, a really shitty thing to do to those who wanted to help out to get the book published.

I'm no harder on cuz than he deserves. I had that one pegged from the word go Prince didn't have him hanging around and that's good enough for me.

It doesn't seem to me those that he had hanging around did too right by him, so maybe that's a good thing.

luv4u said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Mumio said: Nobody was checking for Kim Berry's but either, or Mayte's and many others profiting and becoming infamous on the heels of Prince's demise. I recently heard the estate had spent something like 45 million since Prince's death...hope it's been worth it. Those on You Tube working tirelessly to promote his legacy for free are regularly shut down if they use more than a few second clip. The estate seems to expect people to fly to Minnesota to see video of his live work. It'll be interesting to see how Prince's estate/legacy will survive. Sharon Nelson estimates bankruptcy by the end of the year. [Edited 5/29/19 16:41pm]

Hearsay


Def.

What does Hearsay mean?

noun. unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge: I pay no attention to hearsay. an item of idle or unverified information or gossip; rumor: a malicious hearsay.

"So far, administrators have spent $45 million, including $10 million in legal fees, the heirs claim in documents. "

https://www.usatoday.com/...344038002/

At least Jay Z is promoting Prince in a royal fashion... "a series of listening events across the globe"

https://variety.com/2019/...203227567/

Thank you Jay.

What parts of this site are not "gained or aquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge."?

[Edited 5/29/19 18:27pm]

MoodyBlumes said:

luv4u said:

Hearsay


Def.

What does Hearsay mean?

noun. unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge: I pay no attention to hearsay. an item of idle or unverified information or gossip; rumor: a malicious hearsay.

"So far, administrators have spent $45 million, including $10 million in legal fees, the heirs claim in documents. "

https://www.usatoday.com/...344038002/

Comerica rebutted that $45 million figure in a detailed analysis. You can easily find it in the estate documents.

MoodyBlumes said:

laytonian said:

"So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal"

Fix your who/whom problem first, then I'll tell ya.

So is the issue the investigation or the sales of t shirts? Amazon is brimming with Prince paraphenalia, so unless the estate shuts down everyone, I don't see why Chazz should be singled out. He is actually Prince's family.

[Edited 5/27/19 14:48pm]

He still has no right to steal intellectual property.