Kares said:

onlyforaminute said:

Kares said:

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The point is (as you've clearly missed it), it's an utterly stupid idea. Prince's music, his entire art and persona was about colours: the whole spectrum of colours. Using purple on everything by the Estate is ignorant, boring and it's degrading Prince's art. It is an amateurish and narrowminded way of branding.

Where are you getting that their plan is to use this color on only Prince music stuff? All I see is they trademarked a color that is obviously synonymous with Prince based on the explosion of emotions about the color orange. I've been waiting to see the plan. Lipstick, car paint, what? Seems you took it the extra mile just to have an opinion.

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Gosh, I've no idea what you're trying to say. I give up.

Kares said:

Will Tyka get her cut this year? Opinons???

Astasheiks said:

muchtoofast said:

Astasheiks said:

Will Tyka get her cut this year? Opinons???

Carnac the Magnificent says: not likely!

WTF??? Why just Tyka?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

muchtoofast said:

Astasheiks said: Carnac the Magnificent says: not likely!

WTF??? Why just Tyka?

Okay,,,, Tyka'Nem!

oh how they have no faith in his music

Please keep this thread on topic folks. This is about the Estate.


http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx

Omarr and Alfred's attorneys have withdrawn as their counsel.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Omarr and Alfred's attorneys have withdrawn as their counsel.

Oh sheesh.

The Judge issued an Interim Order on the Contempt Motion against Omarr and Alfred's "advisor" Gregg Walker.

The Judge is not playing with the Heirs and he reiterated his concerns about the Heirs and their advisors:

"The Court is still smarting from the alleged intentional and outrageous violation of the rules of non-disclosure by the Court appointed Heir's representatives who

appear to have, with the knowledge and conspiracy of some of the Heirs,

disseminated confidential information for the purpose of circumventing the role of

the Personal Representative and to enrich themselves."

littlemissG said:

In light of the continuing legal battles and financial drain is there any danger Paisley Park May close? Even temporarily?

Closure of PP has never been mentioned in court documents.

laytonian said:

BartVanHemelen said:

So the estate is now spending time and money on making sure that the color purple is associated with Prince: http://www.thefashionlaw....age-filing

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A very specific formulation of purple, not all tones and shades of the color.
It's an important issue for future marketing opportunities.

Nunya ever heard of Tiffany owning that specific shade of aqua?
UPS brown? Target red?
https://www.businessinsid...ked-2012-9

Prince wasn't a brand like Tiffanys, UPS or McDonald's. He was an artist who painted with a rich palette of purples, golds, oranges, blues (shimmering most recently on Rave), peach, yellow, browns, black, white. Even his cloud guitars are a fiesta of color. The estate should focus on expanding his legacy, not diminishing it, in color or dollar. Why not release his live performances... he taped all of them.

MoodyBlumes said:

Why not release his live performances... he taped all of them.

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They'd spend most of the profit$ before release of these tapes on lawyers and other overhead.

udo said:

MoodyBlumes said:

laytonian said:

A very specific formulation of purple, not all tones and shades of the color.
It's an important issue for future marketing opportunities.

Nunya ever heard of Tiffany owning that specific shade of aqua?
UPS brown? Target red?
https://www.businessinsid...ked-2012-9

Prince wasn't a brand like Tiffanys, UPS or McDonald's. He was an artist who painted with a rich palette of purples, golds, oranges, blues (shimmering most recently on Rave), peach, yellow, browns, black, white. Even his cloud guitars are a fiesta of color. The estate should focus on expanding his legacy, not diminishing it, in color or dollar. Why not release his live performances... he taped all of them.

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I have heard of other brands trademarking colors and I think it's just as ridiculous.

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lurker316 said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Prince wasn't a brand like Tiffanys, UPS or McDonald's. He was an artist who painted with a rich palette of purples, golds, oranges, blues (shimmering most recently on Rave), peach, yellow, browns, black, white. Even his cloud guitars are a fiesta of color. The estate should focus on expanding his legacy, not diminishing it, in color or dollar. Why not release his live performances... he taped all of them.

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I have heard of other brands trademarking colors and I think it's just as ridiculous.

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Iconic Tiffany blue (from 1845) - http://press.tiffany.com/...ounderId=6

Prince's purples -

- https://www.google.com/se...rs_klyYlM:

- https://www.google.com/se...xrDWjOmMM:

- https://www.google.com/se...9tolY-GkM:

- https://www.google.com/se...7KQRqN0hM:

- https://www.google.com/se...rRU60pj5M:

- https://www.google.com/se...rRU60pj5M:

- https://www.google.com/se...GvqWWoW3M:

- https://www.google.com/se...e0CWnJefM:

- https://www.google.com/se...TkoL90y3M:

- https://www.google.com/se...YyvcIXnrM:

- https://www.google.com/se...QSXsEyT-M:

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I think them trying to get the color is a great idea, after all, the color name is Love Symbol #2. Someone diffently had Prince on their mind when they created this color.

PennyPurple said:

I think them trying to get the color is a great idea, after all, the color name is Love Symbol #2. Someone diffently had Prince on their mind when they created this color.

Prince's identity as an artist was such that he didn't restrict himself to one shade of purple.

There are very high legal costs involved in preparing such a 400+ filing:

"The whopping 400-plus page filing is rife with articles, social media posts (including tweets from NASA showing a "purple nebula in honor of Prince"), screenshots such as one of Google's adoption of a purple color scheme shortly after Prince's death, and photos of purple-hued monuments, such as the Eiffel Tower in April 2016".

http://www.thefashionlaw....age-filing

Prince was celebrated all around the world in every different shade, tint and tone of purple.

The upcoming album release 'The Originals' has no purple to be found, though nothing limiting the estate from any hue of purple they wish (all are good).

[Edited 5/24/19 11:20am]

MoodyBlumes said:

PennyPurple said:

I think them trying to get the color is a great idea, after all, the color name is Love Symbol #2. Someone diffently had Prince on their mind when they created this color.

Prince's identity as an artist was such that he didn't restrict himself to one shade of purple.

There are very high legal costs involved in preparing such a 400+ filing:

"The whopping 400-plus page filing is rife with articles, social media posts (including tweets from NASA showing a "purple nebula in honor of Prince"), screenshots such as one of Google's adoption of a purple color scheme shortly after Prince's death, and photos of purple-hued monuments, such as the Eiffel Tower in April 2016".

http://www.thefashionlaw....age-filing

Prince was celebrated all around the world in every different shade, tint and tone of purple.

The upcoming album release 'The Originals' has no purple to be found, though nothing limiting the estate from any hue of purple they wish (all are good).

[Edited 5/24/19 11:20am]

Prince identified with Purple...they made this color specifically with Prince in mind and also name it Love Symbol #2. I like it. The hue fits.

MoodyBlumes said:

Looks like the Estate is still cracking down:

They sent this letter to Chazz

PennyPurple said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Prince's identity as an artist was such that he didn't restrict himself to one shade of purple.

There are very high legal costs involved in preparing such a 400+ filing:

"The whopping 400-plus page filing is rife with articles, social media posts (including tweets from NASA showing a "purple nebula in honor of Prince"), screenshots such as one of Google's adoption of a purple color scheme shortly after Prince's death, and photos of purple-hued monuments, such as the Eiffel Tower in April 2016".

http://www.thefashionlaw....age-filing

Prince was celebrated all around the world in every different shade, tint and tone of purple.

The upcoming album release 'The Originals' has no purple to be found, though nothing limiting the estate from any hue of purple they wish (all are good).

[Edited 5/24/19 11:20am]

Prince identified with Purple...they made this color specifically with Prince in mind and also name it Love Symbol #2. I like it. The hue fits.

The estate can use Love Symbol #2 or any other shade of purple. But paying lawyers' fees to prepare hundreds of pages of trademarking documentation, and battle in court are only the path to bankruptcy, imho.

https://www.billboard.com...mismanaged

[Edited 5/24/19 16:09pm]

onlyforaminute said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Prince wasn't a brand like Tiffanys, UPS or McDonald's. He was an artist who painted with a rich palette of purples, golds, oranges, blues (shimmering most recently on Rave), peach, yellow, browns, black, white. Even his cloud guitars are a fiesta of color. The estate should focus on expanding his legacy, not diminishing it, in color or dollar. Why not release his live performances... he taped all of them.

I've been curious what the plan was. It's been a bit disappointing that a well thought out one wasn't in place before the concept went public. Nothing wrong with a fresh new idea but doing stuff just to be doing it when there are other crucial tedious things on the table that need to be sorted out first waste a lot of money as we see.

One of his Clouds in a Tiffanyesque blue...

https://www.google.ca/sea...qjxbawkcM:

I'd love to see this beauty being played... c'mon estate show us!

[Edited 5/24/19 16:31pm]

ladygirl99 said:

Damn this might end up be another James Brown's estate situation. It would be drag on....................

And also I am wondering would be anything left for the siblings? Tax bill and interest, and fees too. It seems like lawyers and accountant and adminstrators is going to get paid the most per the lawyer in the article....

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What usually happens in these situations, is that the family usually

1: knows nothing about the music of their family member(Other than Purple Rain, CHECK!)

2: everyone VERY HIGHLY OVERESTIMATES the value of what was left behind (Double CHECK!)

3: Can't agree on who should do what(Londell McMuffin anyone???, TRIPLE CHECK!)

4: Will or no Will, FIGHTING ENSUES with said family(QUAD CHECK)

5: Whatever is released is not really done with care or regard to true fans (HELL YEAH CHECK)

And of course, after all is done, and they release one album a year for a few years, they are left with a vault that will rot away, as the fans age, and they realize there are not a bunch of young auto tuners waiting around to pay for old timer music.

How to fix?

Probably not possible. The powers that be care more for money that does not exist than the music. A bunch of multi disc box sets would solve several problems. It would give a gauge on how much we are willing to spend, and at least to a minor point, keep us from complaining about what is not included. With one cd released at a time, there will always be a billion things not included.

I would release:

The Best of The Vault: 20 Discs $115 or less

Hightlights of The Vault 4 Discs $25 or less

Video collection on both Blu Ray/DVD

And some Live box sets Blu Ray/CD/DVD

Yes, the above can be done without taking 30 years. Just ask Bob Dylan's estate...ok, Bob's not dead, but his live shows...well, I'll leave Bob alone...

MoodyBlumes said:

PennyPurple said:

Prince identified with Purple...they made this color specifically with Prince in mind and also name it Love Symbol #2. I like it. The hue fits.

The estate can use Love Symbol #2 or any other shade of purple. But paying lawyers' fees to prepare hundreds of pages of trademarking documentation, and battle in court are only the path to bankruptcy, imho.

https://www.billboard.com...mismanaged

[Edited 5/24/19 16:09pm]

No one has talked about bankruptcy in court documents other than Sharon so there is that....

PennyPurple said:

Looks like the Estate is still cracking down:

They sent this letter to Chazz

Chazz needs to be shut down.