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Reply #60 posted 04/20/19 9:33am

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Sounds interesting.

This will probably be out before u see anything from the Estate.

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Reply #61 posted 04/21/19 12:56am

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The first post has been updated!

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Reply #62 posted 04/22/19 9:40am

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Thanks Bart!

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Reply #63 posted 04/22/19 6:26pm

laytonian

Ya know, guys. More people would be reading if you'd quit arguing.

What we non-techies want (in the OP) is: how do we get this in a region free issue and from where, that's in English.

Thank you.

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Reply #64 posted 04/22/19 8:16pm

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laytonian said:

Ya know, guys. More people would be reading if you'd quit arguing.

What we non-techies want (in the OP) is: how do we get this in a region free issue and from where, that's in English.

Thank you.


Yes, if it’s a German only release I’m screwed. I understood Udo’s post #30 but that’s about as far as I get with German biggrin
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Reply #65 posted 04/22/19 9:14pm

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#30 was in Dutch, not German for my part.

What Bart's info hinted at that the player should be region free.

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Reply #66 posted 04/23/19 3:37am

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laytonian said:

Ya know, guys. More people would be reading if you'd quit arguing.

What we non-techies want (in the OP) is: how do we get this in a region free issue and from where, that's in English.

Thank you.

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Sheesh, the doc is in English. AS STATED IN THE FIRST POST, directly from the people making it.

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Whether it will be region free, that's still unknown, though one of the replies from their Facebook post suggests this might be a region-locked disc. That still means this disc can be played all over Europe.

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WRT importing discs: Google it. Plenty of companies sell import discs, of you can buy them via Amazon Germany. I really don't get why you lot cannot figure such basic shit out yourself and need to have your hand held.

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As to getting this documentary (and the other bonus features) available elsewhere: the first post has a link to the relevant Facebook post from the company who is actually working on this disc. perhaps it will help if you friendly inform them that you are in country X and would love to obtain this documentary. If they see a lot of such requests perhaps they can sell it to other companies by showing there is an interest. But BE FRIENDLY AND POLITE.

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Reply #67 posted 04/23/19 4:04am

Kares

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BartVanHemelen said:

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BE FRIENDLY AND POLITE.

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no comment. smile

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Reply #68 posted 04/23/19 4:49am

violetcrush

udo said:

#30 was in Dutch, not German for my part.


What Bart's info hinted at that the player should be region free.


Well there you go biggrin Other than a little French I’m not well versed in other languages.
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Reply #69 posted 04/23/19 5:16am

Kares

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violetcrush said:

udo said:

#30 was in Dutch, not German for my part.

What Bart's info hinted at that the player should be region free.

Well there you go biggrin Other than a little French I’m not well versed in other languages.

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The producer answering to an American guy that you'd be better off with a region-free player anyway means that this release will be region-locked to Europe.

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Reply #70 posted 04/25/19 10:54am

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In case you haven't noticed the update of the first post:

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TRAILER COMING SOON!

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Reply #71 posted 05/01/19 1:54am

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The first post has been updated with reactions from what seems to be an official account of Turbine (the German company who are releasing this BD) in a discussion on Blu-ray.com's forums.

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Reply #72 posted 05/01/19 8:37am

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BartVanHemelen said:

The first post has been updated with reactions from what seems to be an official account of Turbine (the German company who are releasing this BD) in a discussion on Blu-ray.com's forums.

This was also posted by Turbine on that forum:

'Hang on a little, we're in the middle of putting this together. We are even having it rem... oh, wait, maybe I should not be revealing this right now'

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Reply #73 posted 05/01/19 12:37pm

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MacDaddy said:

BartVanHemelen said:

The first post has been updated with reactions from what seems to be an official account of Turbine (the German company who are releasing this BD) in a discussion on Blu-ray.com's forums.

This was also posted by Turbine on that forum:

'Hang on a little, we're in the middle of putting this together. We are even having it rem... oh, wait, maybe I should not be revealing this right now'

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That's a hint at the remaster, which was already in the first article.

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Reply #74 posted 05/02/19 1:12pm

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https://twitter.com/Calum...7395819520

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Prince documentary finished and the label loves it. I feel like celebrating now... What a great project to have done and what an honour!

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Reply #75 posted 05/05/19 3:52am

PURPLEIZED3121

Thanks for the updates. Seems to be mixed messages on extra lie content. Let's be honest the 'ultimate package' should consist of pro-shot live footage, rehearsals etc...suspect that might be wayyyy too much to hope for given the state of the estate, legals etc. That said, this still looks like a must have in our collection.

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Reply #76 posted 05/05/19 5:16am

Kares

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Thanks for the updates. Seems to be mixed messages on extra lie content. Let's be honest the 'ultimate package' should consist of pro-shot live footage, rehearsals etc...suspect that might be wayyyy too much to hope for given the state of the estate, legals etc. That said, this still looks like a must have in our collection.

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It was clearly stated before that the estate is not involved in this, therefore I've no idea why you'd even hope for any unreleased material. There won't be any.

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Reply #77 posted 05/08/19 4:24am

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The edition can now be pre-ordered at amazon.de:
https://amzn.to/2vMu7RX
More dealers will follow shortly.
The SRP is €54.95.

After Prince decided to cancel the open-air shows in England due to imminent thunderstorms and as a result the concerts in Italy were also cancelled, he decided at short notice to film the shows in Rotterdam and Antwerp. A daredevil move, since there were less than two days to get the complete production up and running. The crazy history of the film is inspected in the booklet as well as in the brand new interview documentary produced exclusively for this release with former collaborators of Prince.

Features:
-2 Blu-ray Discs + 2 DVDs
-Blu-ray Disc with audio in Dolby Atmos and Auro-3D 11.1 + Original Stereo Mix
-Newly commissioned artwork by Martin Homent Art who already was responsible for the cover art of the Prince albums "Hitnrun Phase One + Two"
-Packaging in 12" LP format + heart shaped sticker + large-size booklet + DIN A1 theatrical poster + 5 b/w photos
-Newly commissioned 85 minute interview documentary "Prince - The Peach & Black Times" by Naomi Holwill and Calum Waddell (High Rising Productions) with Dr. Fink (keyboards), Susan Rogers (sound engineer), Steve Purcell (editor), Leroy Bennett (stage and lighting design), Gert de Bruijn & Michiel Hoogeboezom (sound engineers), Dave Rusan (Rusan Guitarworks) and Edgar Kruize, author of Prince: The Dutch Experience
-Exclusive audio commentary by The Peach and Black Podcast
-Booklet with new writing by Prince expert Edgar Kruize and a foreword by Dr. Funkenberry (DR. FUNKENBERRY'S CELEBRITY NEWS FAN PAGE)
-Bonus Blu-ray Disc and DVD with over two hours of extended interview versions

Blu-ray disc
Video: 1080p24 Full HD (1.78:1)
Audio: DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 Stereo, Dolby Atmos (Dolby Digital 5.1 compatible), Auro-3D 11.1 (DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and 7.1 compatible)
Subtitles: feature film: German (dialogues), English (lyrics), bonus material: German (optional)

DVD
Video: 16:9 anamorphic (PAL)
Audio: Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo, Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: Feature film: German (dialogues), English (lyrics) Bonus material: German (optional)

Setlist
1. Intro
2. Sign "O" the Times
3. Play in the Sunshine
4. Little Red Corvette
5. Housequake
6. Slow Love
7. I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man
8. Hot Thing
9. Now's the Time
10. U Got the Look (music video)
11. If I Was Your Girlfriend
12. Forever in My Life / It
13. It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night
14. The Cross
15. Sign "O" the Times (instrumental)

The film is equipped with region code B/2 for licensing reasons.

A teaser for the documentary PRINCE - THE PEACH & BLACK TIMES will be released this weekend.

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Reply #78 posted 05/08/19 5:39am

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oh lawd, forward by Dr Funkenberry? I look forward to his insight... I guess.

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Reply #79 posted 05/08/19 6:32am

JorisE73

jaawwnn said:

oh lawd, forward by Dr Funkenberry? I look forward to his insight... I guess.


I'm not. lol
It looks great tho.
Guess I'll be selling the Canadian DVD and my Japanese Bluray set and probably this one too in a while after a superdeluxe edition arrives from The Estate lol
Who would have thought that after years of buying really bad releases in the 80's and 90's of this movie we'd get a slew of reaaly great releases.
The 2K remeaster I saw 2 years ago in the theater was amazing so I hope this one is at least as good as that was.

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Reply #80 posted 05/08/19 8:04am

Kares

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JorisE73 said:

jaawwnn said:

oh lawd, forward by Dr Funkenberry? I look forward to his insight... I guess.


I'm not. lol
It looks great tho.
Guess I'll be selling the Canadian DVD and my Japanese Bluray set and probably this one too in a while after a superdeluxe edition arrives from The Estate lol
Who would have thought that after years of buying really bad releases in the 80's and 90's of this movie we'd get a slew of reaaly great releases.
The 2K remeaster I saw 2 years ago in the theater was amazing so I hope this one is at least as good as that was.

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The Estate has nothing to do with this release. And I guess opinions vary whether that's a good thing or a bad thing... wink

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Reply #81 posted 05/08/19 8:44am

udo

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Wait!
A BluRay with only HD video?! eek

Why not rescan the film and do the remaster from a higher resolution source?

For me the only BluRay benefit is the 2.0 uncompresed audio. (the reason for owning the LD)

Or did I miss anything?

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(yes, I did order...)

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Reply #82 posted 05/08/19 9:03am

Kares

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udo said:

Wait!
A BluRay with only HD video?! eek

Why not rescan the film and do the remaster from a higher resolution source?

For me the only BluRay benefit is the 2.0 uncompresed audio. (the reason for owning the LD)

Or did I miss anything?

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(yes, I did order...)

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Because... as it has been discussed here a dozen times already... the estate is NOT involved in this release therefore the company who produced this had no access to the original film or video masters (and it would've cost a fortune to work from those anyway). That's why.

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Reply #83 posted 05/08/19 9:06am

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As with The Most Beautful Girl In The World, I feel the Sign O'The Times movie has always sat outside of clear ownership.

As a consequence no one really knows what to do with it and any activity is usually met with low investment due to the high risk involved, and naturally, poor access to quality resources - hence the shocking DVD releases.

Part of me wishes the global rights would come under the control of the Estate. Naturally I'm assuming this would attract the most investment and access to vault material such as images from the tour and naturally any extra video or audio.

Yet sadly time has shown an Estate run project doesn't necessarily quarantee top quality - as perhaps only a true fan would labour over the quality of such a release.

However, for once and for all, I wish there was a concerted effort to create a final and definitive version of this paramount Prince project - as too many independents have tinkered and failed.

cool


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Reply #84 posted 05/08/19 9:29am

Kares

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darkroman said:

As with The Most Beautful Girl In The World, I feel the Sign O'The Times movie has always sat outside of clear ownership.

As a consequence no one really knows what to do with it and any activity is usually met with low investment due to the high risk involved, and naturally, poor access to quality resources - hence the shocking DVD releases.

Part of me wishes the global rights would come under the control of the Estate. Naturally I'm assuming this would attract the most investment and access to vault material such as images from the tour and naturally any extra video or audio.

Yet sadly time has shown an Estate run project doesn't necessarily quarantee top quality - as perhaps only a true fan would labour over the quality of such a release.

However, for once and for all, I wish there was a concerted effort to create a final and definitive version of this paramount Prince project - as too many independents have tinkered and failed.

cool

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As much as I love this movie I think it would be a monumental task (with a huge bill) to try to recreate it from scratch even if the rights would be with the Estate, and I'm not sure it's worth it as it's not a true, live concert film.
I'd much more prefer to be able to buy genuine live concert movies on BluRay. I'll still buy this release and I can hardly wait for it to come out, but as we all saw it for a hundred times already, I think it's time to move on to the unseen concerts.

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Reply #85 posted 05/08/19 9:44am

violetcrush

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darkroman said:


As with The Most Beautful Girl In The World, I feel the Sign O'The Times movie has always sat outside of clear ownership.

As a consequence no one really knows what to do with it and any activity is usually met with low investment due to the high risk involved, and naturally, poor access to quality resources - hence the shocking DVD releases.

Part of me wishes the global rights would come under the control of the Estate. Naturally I'm assuming this would attract the most investment and access to vault material such as images from the tour and naturally any extra video or audio.

Yet sadly time has shown an Estate run project doesn't necessarily quarantee top quality - as perhaps only a true fan would labour over the quality of such a release.

However, for once and for all, I wish there was a concerted effort to create a final and definitive version of this paramount Prince project - as too many independents have tinkered and failed.

cool



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As much as I love this movie I think it would be a monumental task (with a huge bill) to try to recreate it from scratch even if the rights would be with the Estate, and I'm not sure it's worth it as it's not a true, live concert film.
I'd much more prefer to be able to buy genuine live concert movies on BluRay. I'll still buy this release and I can hardly wait for it to come out, but as we all saw it for a hundred times already, I think it's time to move on to the unseen concerts.


How about the documentary? I could listen to Susan Rogers all day long. Wondering who else will be featured.
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I’m too lazy to go back to earlier posts - so if I’m in the US I won’t be able to view the film??
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Reply #86 posted 05/08/19 10:06am

Kares

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violetcrush said:

Kares said:

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As much as I love this movie I think it would be a monumental task (with a huge bill) to try to recreate it from scratch even if the rights would be with the Estate, and I'm not sure it's worth it as it's not a true, live concert film.
I'd much more prefer to be able to buy genuine live concert movies on BluRay. I'll still buy this release and I can hardly wait for it to come out, but as we all saw it for a hundred times already, I think it's time to move on to the unseen concerts.

How about the documentary? I could listen to Susan Rogers all day long. Wondering who else will be featured. * I’m too lazy to go back to earlier posts - so if I’m in the US I won’t be able to view the film??

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I'm too lazy to explain.

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Reply #87 posted 05/08/19 10:16am

violetcrush

Kares said:



violetcrush said:


Kares said:


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As much as I love this movie I think it would be a monumental task (with a huge bill) to try to recreate it from scratch even if the rights would be with the Estate, and I'm not sure it's worth it as it's not a true, live concert film.
I'd much more prefer to be able to buy genuine live concert movies on BluRay. I'll still buy this release and I can hardly wait for it to come out, but as we all saw it for a hundred times already, I think it's time to move on to the unseen concerts.



How about the documentary? I could listen to Susan Rogers all day long. Wondering who else will be featured. * I’m too lazy to go back to earlier posts - so if I’m in the US I won’t be able to view the film??

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I'm too lazy to explain.


Okay, I walked right into that one!! lol
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Reply #88 posted 05/08/19 10:18am

udo

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Kares said:

the estate is NOT involved in this release therefore the company who produced this had no access to the original film or video masters (and it would've cost a fortune to work from those anyway). That's why.

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I.o.w.: the estate is too involved with internal litigation and what not that they are unable to grab an opportunity at monetizing some assets within a reasonable timeframe.

They cost millions and the benefit is negative.

This is the plain truth until proven otherwise.

Thanks very much for pointing that out.

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Because I do have a SOTT bluray somewhere here. Perhaps a Japanese one too.

So we have the HD video, some PCM audio too.

So what would this company say to me when they would be trying to sell this bluray set?

The documentary? Sure.

But what did I overlook that is a must buy argument now? (yes, I might have been too quick)

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Reply #89 posted 05/08/19 11:01am

Kares

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violetcrush said:

Kares said:

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I'm too lazy to explain.

Okay, I walked right into that one!! lol

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Sorry smile
You'll either need a region-free BR-player (or a BR-player from Europe) or you'll need to wait for somoeone to upload the discs' contents to the torrent sites...

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