Reply #30 posted 03/22/19 10:17am
rlittler81
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databank said:
jaawwnn said:
Do y'all really want to see the ashes that much? I'd be happy just seeing Paisley Park tbh
I guess it's a matter of personal sensibility. Do you go to your loved ones' tomb? I certainly don't, it's meaningless to me, but other poeple need the landmark to pay their homage. It's all a matter of symbols and rituals in the end.
I remember once going to Jim Morrisson's tomb in Paris in 1992, out of curiousity. He'd been gone for 21 years yet there was a group of hippies, young and old, singing songs on guitar and smoking joints! And the stone as well as the other stones around it were covered with graffitis honoring the late artist. It was a funny scene to observe. Now 25+ years have passed since that day and I wonder if, nearly 50 years after the singer's death, you still have people on that gravestone every day or if the hippies have finally given up. Anyone been there of late?
I was there last weekend, still a decent sized crowd around his grave, more than anyone else buried there. It's sectioned off so you can't touch it or go too near it. 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? |
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Reply #31 posted 03/22/19 12:35pm
peggyon |
While at Paisley Park, one can feel his energy everywhere. I don't think he is residing in the urn, though a nice burial site would feel right. |
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Reply #32 posted 03/22/19 12:51pm
Astasheiks
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laytonian said:
The mausoleum idea is good, although $800,000 is too expensive and doesn't need to be purple. I agree that Sharon seems to be the most sensible of the six heirs. [Edited 3/20/19 19:00pm]
Yeah that! |
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Reply #33 posted 03/22/19 12:52pm
Astasheiks
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wonderboy said:
If I had a say, I would put his ashes in the studio A control room in a place they could be seen but not in the way. [Edited 3/20/19 20:01pm]
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Reply #34 posted 03/22/19 12:55pm
Astasheiks
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laytonian said:
TheEquilizer said:
I heard it was more like 300,000 and it included imported white marble, amethyst granite, gold love symbol over the door and stained glass windows. I also agree that Sharon seems to be the most sensible of the 6 heirs.
That sounds beautiful. It should be done. Put it in the backyard of Paisley, in a garden. Turn that Egg into Paisley Kitchen and gift shop.
That would be cool! |
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Reply #35 posted 03/22/19 12:57pm
Astasheiks
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eugenius said:
They should turn the Egg into a mausoleum. It's been empty since it was built. At least now it would have a purpose. A respectful interior remodel would be pretty cool.
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(And then the family could charge $5,000 as an add-on to the tour to visit it.)
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Reply #36 posted 03/22/19 1:44pm
PennyPurple |
ThatWhiteDude said:
PennyPurple said:
Graceland runs PP. At Graceland you have Elvis' grave that you can visit.
Most of the Presidential libraries have the Presidents grave that you can visit.
Yeah, I go to my families graves at least 4 times a year, maybe more. Some of you don't?
C'mon, they have stuffed him in the prevault in the basement...WTH? Is that all the respect that they have for him? The Urn was specially made for him, it looks beautiful. PP was his home, at least put him in his private living quarters, damn.
And as far as what Omar said about the fans need to move on, is that what they really want? Because people can always NOT come to PP or the Celebration. And if they want the fans to move on, why do they keep holding the Celebration? $$
Seems like Sharon is the only one with a brain and a heart
Yeah, I used to think the younger ones were more apt to care..... |
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Reply #37 posted 03/22/19 1:55pm
laytonian
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PennyPurple said: Yeah, I used to think the younger ones were more apt to care..... Have they had reliable incomes? They both lived in homes that Prince owned, unlike the other four. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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Reply #38 posted 03/22/19 2:04pm
PennyPurple |
laytonian said:
PennyPurple said:
Yeah, I used to think the younger ones were more apt to care.....
Have they had reliable incomes? They both lived in homes that Prince owned, unlike the other four.
I don't know? Do any of them have jobs? |
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Reply #39 posted 03/22/19 2:36pm
Astasheiks
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PennyPurple said:
Graceland runs PP. At Graceland you have Elvis' grave that you can visit.
Most of the Presidential libraries have the Presidents grave that you can visit.
Yeah, I go to my families graves at least 4 times a year, maybe more. Some of you don't?
C'mon, they have stuffed him in the prevault in the basement...WTH? Is that all the respect that they have for him? The Urn was specially made for him, it looks beautiful. PP was his home, at least put him in his private living quarters, damn.
And as far as what Omar said about the fans need to move on, is that what they really want? Because people can always NOT come to PP or the Celebration. And if they want the fans to move on, why do they keep holding the Celebration? $$
Amen! |
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Reply #40 posted 03/24/19 12:20pm
deerpath |
I wonder if removing them from public view has something to do with the cost of security. One reason he wasn't buried near his family was security and traffic. Not having his special mausaleum (replica PP) with him in place seems like another loss. An emptiness. My guess it has to do with the ongoing cost of security. "Hold on to your souls y'all. We got a long way to go. Thank you! We love y'all!" |
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Reply #41 posted 03/24/19 12:51pm
ChocolateBox31 21
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deerpath said:
I wonder if removing them from public view has something to do with the cost of security. One reason he wasn't buried near his family was security and traffic. Not having his special mausaleum (replica PP) with him in place seems like another loss. An emptiness. My guess it has to do with the ongoing cost of security.
I believe eventually Sharon will get her wish. A mausaleum is an EXCELLENT idea! It will show the proper respect to Prince's(r.i.p.) legacy. "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." |
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Reply #42 posted 03/25/19 10:27am
onlyforaminute
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deerpath said:
I wonder if removing them from public view has something to do with the cost of security. One reason he wasn't buried near his family was security and traffic. Not having his special mausaleum (replica PP) with him in place seems like another loss. An emptiness. My guess it has to do with the ongoing cost of security.
I don't see how it wasn't secure where it was, unless PP has been broken into at night. It was completely unreachable (and basically un-seeable) without a ladder. No need to remove it now just to build a mausoleum somewhere else. Big question mark. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Reply #43 posted 03/25/19 10:38am
Krystalkisses |
PennyPurple said: Graceland runs PP. At Graceland you have Elvis' grave that you can visit. Most of the Presidential libraries have the Presidents grave that you can visit. Yeah, I go to my families graves at least 4 times a year, maybe more. Some of you don't?
C'mon, they have stuffed him in the prevault in the basement...WTH? Is that all the respect that they have for him? The Urn was specially made for him, it looks beautiful. PP was his home, at least put him in his private living quarters, damn.
And as far as what Omar said about the fans need to move on, is that what they really want? Because people can always NOT come to PP or the Celebration. And if they want the fans to move on, why do they keep holding the Celebration? $$
When you put it that way it does seem kinda disrespectful. But I'm sure security reasons are a real issue. Not just with visitors but I mean anyone like new employees. You can just never predict what people will do. I remember being kinda surprised his ashes were in the atrium when my husband and I went on the first tour in 2016. I'm still kinda undecided if his ashes should even be available to the public. |
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Reply #44 posted 03/25/19 5:32pm
Mumio |
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if I'd heard that some of the fringe fans threatened to steal the urn so they can get the ashes analyzed Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end |
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Reply #45 posted 03/26/19 10:45am
nelcp777 |
Mumio said:
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if I'd heard that some of the fringe fans threatened to steal the urn so they can get the ashes analyzed
That would be insane. |
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Reply #46 posted 03/26/19 10:51am
onlyforaminute
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Mumio said:
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if I'd heard that some of the fringe fans threatened to steal the urn so they can get the ashes analyzed
If all's well with PP then that's the only other explanation that makes sense to me right now.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Reply #47 posted 04/23/19 7:24pm
Nooriginaluser name |
Unbelievable and infuriating to me that they moved his urn to the basement. I was against the urn intially, until I walked in the doors of Paisley and saw it front and center in the foyer. It was jolting,but I will ever forget that moment. Completely unexpected to me, I broke out in rivers of tears. The tour guides were so new they almost panicked and came over with boxes of tissues. It was in the early days of Paisley's opening and there was little to no security. It was well cased and highly visible. I call b.s. on security being the issue. I have this uncomfortable feeling that persons in the family are trying to almost distance us from our Prince memories...create a more commercial "Prince" that may be more marketable but NOTHING like who he really was. PP was full of his spirit when I was there in 2016. I'm almost afraid to go back now, particularly since I read this. |
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Reply #48 posted 04/23/19 7:38pm
rdhull |
Nooriginalusername said:
Unbelievable and infuriating to me that they moved his urn to the basement. I was against the urn intially, until I walked in the doors of Paisley and saw it front and center in the foyer. It was jolting,but I will ever forget that moment. Completely unexpected to me, I broke out in rivers of tears. The tour guides were so new they almost panicked and came over with boxes of tissues. It was in the early days of Paisley's opening and there was little to no security. It was well cased and highly visible. I call b.s. on security being the issue. I have this uncomfortable feeling that persons in the family are trying to almost distance us from our Prince memories...create a more commercial "Prince" that may be more marketable but NOTHING like who he really was. PP was full of his spirit when I was there in 2016. I'm almost afraid to go back now, particularly since I read this.
way to make it all about YOU "Climb in my fur." |
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Reply #49 posted 04/23/19 7:44pm
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onlyforaminute said:
deerpath said:
I wonder if removing them from public view has something to do with the cost of security. One reason he wasn't buried near his family was security and traffic. Not having his special mausaleum (replica PP) with him in place seems like another loss. An emptiness. My guess it has to do with the ongoing cost of security.
I don't see how it wasn't secure where it was, unless PP has been broken into at night. It was completely unreachable (and basically un-seeable) without a ladder. No need to remove it now just to build a mausoleum somewhere else. Big question mark.
When I was at Paisley, the urn was still in the foyer and there was essentially no noticable security. I literally could have walked upstairs if i had really wanted to. I accidently got separated from my initial tour group and just merged in with another one. I cannot fathom how security is even an issue with this. It's a power play at the expense of us fans. So angry at Omarr- who is he to decide when our period-the world's period-of mourning is over? |
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Reply #50 posted 04/23/19 7:47pm
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rdhull said:
Nooriginalusername said:
Unbelievable and infuriating to me that they moved his urn to the basement. I was against the urn intially, until I walked in the doors of Paisley and saw it front and center in the foyer. It was jolting,but I will ever forget that moment. Completely unexpected to me, I broke out in rivers of tears. The tour guides were so new they almost panicked and came over with boxes of tissues. It was in the early days of Paisley's opening and there was little to no security. It was well cased and highly visible. I call b.s. on security being the issue. I have this uncomfortable feeling that persons in the family are trying to almost distance us from our Prince memories...create a more commercial "Prince" that may be more marketable but NOTHING like who he really was. PP was full of his spirit when I was there in 2016. I'm almost afraid to go back now, particularly since I read this.
way to make it all about YOU
You're right-it did sound that way. Oops-didn't mean it to but I also try to speak from my personal opinions and not project them onto others because not everyone agrees with me, just owning my thoughts, not trying to make it about me.
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Reply #51 posted 04/23/19 7:48pm
rdhull |
Nooriginalusername said:
onlyforaminute said:
I don't see how it wasn't secure where it was, unless PP has been broken into at night. It was completely unreachable (and basically un-seeable) without a ladder. No need to remove it now just to build a mausoleum somewhere else. Big question mark.
So angry at Omarr- who is he to decide when our period-the world's period-of mourning is over?
His family, that's who. Yall are so weird. "Climb in my fur." |
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Reply #52 posted 04/24/19 4:09am
Vannormal
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Reply #53 posted 04/25/19 7:14pm
onlyforaminute
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rdhull said:
Nooriginalusername said:
onlyforaminute said:
I don't see how it wasn't secure where it was, unless PP has been broken into at night. It was completely unreachable (and basically un-seeable) without a ladder. No need to remove it now just to build a mausoleum somewhere else. Big question mark.
So angry at Omarr- who is he to decide when our period-the world's period-of mourning is over?
His family, that's who. Yall are so weird. I just can't imagine what would still make people uncomfortable. You can't see it, it had to be pointed out. And it was wsy smsller than i thought it'd be given the big deal made about it. I really wanted to see it actually. Sad, since others have said even the original smell is gone. Im sure they're planning something and keeping plans under wraps which probably is best. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Reply #54 posted 04/26/19 6:34am
ladygirl99 |
I would been cool with that. If I were to visit Paisley Park, I am not there to see some urn I am there to see the art he delivered while he lived on this Earth. |
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Reply #55 posted 04/26/19 9:18am
laytonian
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onlyforaminute said:
rdhull said:
His family, that's who. Yall are so weird.
I just can't imagine what would still make people uncomfortable. You can't see it, it had to be pointed out. And it was wsy smsller than i thought it'd be given the big deal made about it. I really wanted to see it actually. Sad, since others have said even the original smell is gone. Im sure they're planning something and keeping plans under wraps which probably is best.
Watch for building permits at Paisley; they can't build a mausoleum or columbarium without a permit. Luckily, since Paisley is in an industrial park zone, that shouldn't be a problem. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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