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Thread started 04/21/03 8:11pm

MrBliss

prince's movies are pieces of shit

the music is great... but the movies are talentless pieces of crap... but i guess you already knew that huh?
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Reply #1 posted 04/21/03 8:15pm

Pochacco

Why state the obvious

Much love yes Pochacco
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Reply #2 posted 04/21/03 8:16pm

WatchThemFall

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Why does it matter? They are supposed to be shitty, campy and stupid... That's why we like them, right? Err...
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Reply #3 posted 04/21/03 8:18pm

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Not Purple Rain. Purple rain is one of the ten greatest rock films ever made. Why?

1. The work ethic shown

2. Drugs are seen as a hinderance and not a normal part of evveryday life which actually means something but I wont get into that

3. This was oen of the only movies where an enigmatic rock star who already had some credentials allowed himself to be seen in a way that was not submissive but got slapped aroyund..Francis L fixing his clock in the movie and the protagonist not doing anything about it but later vowing to use more eye-liner was something relatively new

4. The cinematography is ...beautiful

5.It took a nation by storm for 10 days


6. Every music star wants to have the impact that Purple Rain did for Prince

7. there was a quote that said "make way for Prince..or get mown down". The movie was cause for that quote.





Im humping this edit like Prince did the speakers in Darling Nikki
[This message was edited Mon Apr 21 20:21:13 PDT 2003 by rdhull]
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Reply #4 posted 04/21/03 8:20pm

Starmist7

Any movie that has me watching it more than once is not solely because of the music...
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Reply #5 posted 04/21/03 8:49pm

herb4

In other news:

Water is wet.

The sky is blue.

OJ did it.

Prince is short.
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Reply #6 posted 04/21/03 9:08pm

MrBliss

rdhull said:

Not Purple Rain. Purple rain is one of the ten greatest rock films ever made. Why?

1. The work ethic shown

2. Drugs are seen as a hinderance and not a normal part of evveryday life which actually means something but I wont get into that

3. This was oen of the only movies where an enigmatic rock star who already had some credentials allowed himself to be seen in a way that was not submissive but got slapped aroyund..Francis L fixing his clock in the movie and the protagonist not doing anything about it but later vowing to use more eye-liner was something relatively new

4. The cinematography is ...beautiful

5.It took a nation by storm for 10 days


6. Every music star wants to have the impact that Purple Rain did for Prince

7. there was a quote that said "make way for Prince..or get mown down". The movie was cause for that quote.





Im humping this edit like Prince did the speakers in Darling Nikki
[This message was edited Mon Apr 21 20:21:13 PDT 2003 by rdhull]



but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound
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Reply #7 posted 04/21/03 9:09pm

MrBliss

herb4 said:

In other news:

Water is wet.

The sky is blue.

OJ did it.

Prince is short.



lol ... i SO asked for that
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Reply #8 posted 04/21/03 9:10pm

MrBliss

WatchThemFall said:

Why does it matter?



because i believe he could have done so much better
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Reply #9 posted 04/21/03 9:18pm

rdhull

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MrBliss said:


but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound


The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue would eclipse L. Olivier doing Hamlet. The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue performances are profound enough. They are Brando in The Godfather.
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Reply #10 posted 04/21/03 9:21pm

MrBliss

rdhull said:

MrBliss said:


but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound


The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue would eclipse L. Olivier doing Hamlet. The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue performances are profound enough. They are Brando in The Godfather.



omfg ...blasphemy!!

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Reply #11 posted 04/21/03 9:25pm

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MrBliss said:

but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound

How many great musicians star in films that are the equal of their music?
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #12 posted 04/21/03 9:33pm

rdhull

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MrBliss said:

rdhull said:

MrBliss said:


but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound


The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue would eclipse L. Olivier doing Hamlet. The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue performances are profound enough. They are Brando in The Godfather.



omfg ...blasphemy!!

you know you're chewin' bubble gum... you know what it is but you still want some


No really they are...CB and Beauty Ones are Prince doing On The Waterfront. He is doing the "it was you Charlie.. you made me take those dives" soliloquy. In The Cotton Club which was directed by Coppola who directed Brando, Sandman Williams, a Club featured tap dancer as played by Gregory Hines is pissed because of the blatant racism and disrespect as well as violence put upon him by The Cotton Clubs bouncer. Gangtser Larence Fishburn as Bugsy I believe tells him that he himself is a gangster and what he does is gangster business..he takes care of his business in the streets illegally with guns, knives, racketeering..thats where he does his "work" albeit that was what he was left with.Thats where "he" dances. .he asks Sandman Williams "where do you dance"? Sandman replies.."I'm gonna kill him with my tap shoes". He will tap him to death in his dance..in other words he will utilize his "skill" to break free of the boolshit position he is in etc.

The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue is where Prince dances ..or...acted..did his eloquent reading of Shakespeare. Did his Brando, his Morgan Freeman, his Nicholson, his Portier. When he did those performances he was literally doing On The Waterfront. Folks were taken aback just as they were with Terry Malloy and his plight and spiel in that car..talkin to his brother.





sirloin aint all that and bubblegum is a legitimate food and drug item and very underappreciated edit
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Reply #13 posted 04/21/03 9:40pm

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awww come on... what other universe has people walking around in lingerie downtown (and they're not hookers)... and Under The Cherry moon has a lot of talent around prince, just look up the cinematographer...

I can't really defend Grafitti Bridge... but ... I... like the tick tick bang performance.

I remember seeing Grafilthy Bridge in an urban dollar theatre... and the comments shouted at the screen made us laugh so much.


MrBliss said:

the music is great... but the movies are talentless pieces of crap... but i guess you already knew that huh?
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Reply #14 posted 04/21/03 9:42pm

Brendan

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rdhull said:

MrBliss said:

rdhull said:

MrBliss said:


but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound


The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue would eclipse L. Olivier doing Hamlet. The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue performances are profound enough. They are Brando in The Godfather.



omfg ...blasphemy!!

you know you're chewin' bubble gum... you know what it is but you still want some


No really they are...CB and Beauty Ones are Prince doing On The Waterfront. He is doing the "it was you Charlie.. you made me take those dives" soliloquy. In The Cotton Club which was directed by Coppola who directed Brando , Sandman Williams, a Club featured tap dancer as played by Gregory Hines is pissed because of the blatant racism and disrespect as well as violence put upon him by The Cotton Clubs bouncer. Gangtser Larence Fishburn as Bugsy I believe tells him that eh himself is a gangster and what he does is gangster business..he takes care of his business in the streets illegally with guns, knives, racketeering..thats where he does his "work" albeit that was what he was left with. He asks Sandman Williams that is how "he" dances..he asks Sandman Williams "where do you dance"? Sandman replies.."I'm gonna kill him with my tap shoes". He will tap him to death in his dance..in other words he will utilize his "skill" to break free of the boolshit position he is in etc.

The Beautiful Ones and Computer Blue is where Prince dances ..or...acted..did his eloquent reading of Shakespeare. Did his Brando, his Morgan Freeman, his Nicholson, his Potier. When he did those performances he was literally doing On The Waterfront. Folks were taken aback just as they were with Terry Malloy and his plight and spiel in that car..talkin to his brother.





sirloin aint all that and bubblegum is a legitimate food and drug item and very underappreciated edit
[This message was edited Mon Apr 21 21:35:26 PDT 2003 by rdhull]


hmmm Very unique take. I never thought of it that way. But a performance is in fact a performance and those were all brilliant performances in front of a camera.

And getting back directly to the topic at hand, I'd say Prince's movies are all over the map, from the embarrassingly awful ("GB"); to the mediocre cult classic ("UTCM"); to the Good ("PR", which means it's among the greatest rock films); to the near great ("SOTT").
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Reply #15 posted 04/21/03 9:58pm

TRON

MrBliss said:

the music is great... but the movies are talentless pieces of crap... but i guess you already knew that huh?

This becomes even clearer after seeing 'Dancer In The Dark', doesn't it?
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Reply #16 posted 04/21/03 10:00pm

MrBliss

Supernova said:

MrBliss said:

but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound

How many great musicians star in films that are the equal of their music?



very few... i guess i'm just pissed because i saw Bjork in 'Dancer In The Dark' the other night, and she was AMAZING... i got to thinking that it's a shame that Prince didn't do a movie that really had some substance
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Reply #17 posted 04/21/03 10:01pm

MrBliss

TRON said:

MrBliss said:

the music is great... but the movies are talentless pieces of crap... but i guess you already knew that huh?

This becomes even clearer after seeing 'Dancer In The Dark', doesn't it?



yessireee nod .. it's funny... i was half way through my previous post when the phone rang... i hadn't read this when i posted it... but so true... you've read me like a book smile
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Reply #18 posted 04/21/03 10:11pm

TRON

MrBliss said:

TRON said:

MrBliss said:

the music is great... but the movies are talentless pieces of crap... but i guess you already knew that huh?

This becomes even clearer after seeing 'Dancer In The Dark', doesn't it?



yessireee nod .. it's funny... i was half way through my previous post when the phone rang... i hadn't read this when i posted it... but so true... you've read me like a book smile

The feeling I got from seeing that movie for the first time was just how different the two of them are. Prince is very honest and emotional in his music. But as a person and a performer, I feel like he's very secretive. And even fake sometimes. Seeing Bjork as that character made me realize how real she is as a personality. Prince is a poser in comparison.
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Reply #19 posted 04/21/03 10:24pm

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MrBliss said:

Supernova said:

MrBliss said:

but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound

How many great musicians star in films that are the equal of their music?



very few... i guess i'm just pissed because i saw Bjork in 'Dancer In The Dark' the other night, and she was AMAZING... i got to thinking that it's a shame that Prince didn't do a movie that really had some substance


lol

You are a duck of extremes.

There's a grand canyon between shit and Lars von Trier's "Dancer in the Dark".

But I know you know that and are just trying to get activity on your thread. lol
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Reply #20 posted 04/21/03 10:34pm

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I have not sen Dancer yet but plan too. And I have heard from everyone who has sen it that its a moving film..someone whom I never expected spoke of it moving him but...

the Terry Malloy speech which is sometimes seen as the most sought after or most referenced and influencial sceen of most actors even to this day..is powerful yes..and that power CAN also come from Computer Blue and Beauty Ones. In the sense that not that Bjork didn;t move ya..not that ya couldn't feel her, her performance and believe it..but most fellas want to BE singing Computer Blue etc so to speak. They want to put a ciggy intheir mouth and brood etc...thats why I say Rain is equal to any decent motion picture as well. The performances captured the passion of a generation like a Brando, Scarface, Cagney, Portier or denzil did/woud/could. Not saying its better or worse but just as powerful and important. The emotive acting is where Bjork "danced"... that is where she did her rare form Computer Blue...Prince did his right after Morris tried to mack and the night before Apollonia 6 opened at The Taste.



Bjorks swan dress edit
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Reply #21 posted 04/21/03 11:22pm

MrBliss

Brendan said:

lol

You are a duck of extremes.

There's a grand canyon between shit and Lars von Trier's "Dancer in the Dark".

But I know you know that and are just trying to get activity on your thread. lol



actually i'm serious smile
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Reply #22 posted 04/21/03 11:45pm

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rdhull said:

I have not sen Dancer yet but plan too. And I have heard from everyone who has sen it that its a moving film..someone whom I never expected spoke of it moving him but...

the Terry Malloy speech which is sometimes seen as the most sought after or most referenced and influencial sceen of most actors even to this day..is powerful yes..and that power CAN also come from Computer Blue and Beauty Ones. In the sense that not that Bjork didn;t move ya..not that ya couldn't feel her, her performance and believe it..but most fellas want to BE singing Computer Blue etc so to speak. They want to put a ciggy intheir mouth and brood etc...thats why I say Rain is equal to any decent motion picture as well. The performances captured the passion of a generation like a Brando, Scarface, Cagney, Portier or denzil did/woud/could. Not saying its better or worse but just as powerful and important. The emotive acting is where Bjork "danced"... that is where she did her rare form Computer Blue...Prince did his right after Morris tried to mack and the night before Apollonia 6 opened at The Taste.
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I can understand what RD is saying, but I'm sure Elvis fans claim that Jailhouse Rock or King Creole is just as good as anything else etc. Bowie fans claim that Labyrinth is an all-time classic... It's all about perspective.
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Reply #23 posted 04/22/03 12:10am

herb4

Brendan said:


And getting back directly to the topic at hand, I'd say Prince's movies are all over the map, ...to the near great ("SOTT").


Good point.

Sign O The Times is outstanding, up there with "Stop Making Sense" for concert films. Even that one he tried to corn up with a mild "plot" and some silly overdubs. But the performance really holds it up, perticularly "Hot Thing" and 'Forever in My Life"

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Reply #24 posted 04/22/03 12:36am

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MrBliss said:

Supernova said:

MrBliss said:

but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound

How many great musicians star in films that are the equal of their music?



very few... i guess i'm just pissed because i saw Bjork in 'Dancer In The Dark' the other night, and she was AMAZING... i got to thinking that it's a shame that Prince didn't do a movie that really had some substance

Well, if Prince hasn't re-examined his participation in feature films in general I doubt he wants to improve in the acting department, simply because acting isn't his passion. And I also doubt he wants to interpret someone else's cinematic vision for someone else's script. He likes to have his hand in almost everything (not just in front of the camera, but screenwriting and directing too). Movies aren't his strength. He's better at wearing multiple hats in the studio than he is when it comes to movies. It's no biggie (anymore) especially since it's not his "day job"...:O
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Reply #25 posted 04/22/03 12:40am

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MrBliss said:

the music is great... but the movies are talentless pieces of crap... but i guess you already knew that huh?


what u doing in your life...? dit u get better that u can say this...? u talking loud but saying nothing... use your lifetime 2 do good things and smile.
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Reply #26 posted 04/22/03 4:44am

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Brendan said:

And getting back directly to the topic at hand, I'd say Prince's movies are all over the map, from the embarrassingly awful ("GB"); to the mediocre cult classic ("UTCM"); to the Good ("PR", which means it's among the greatest rock films); to the near great ("SOTT").

Great summary! I agree entirely. biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 04/22/03 5:32am

MrBliss

i should have been more clear... i didn't mean SOTT
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Reply #28 posted 04/22/03 7:45am

MrBliss

Supernova said:

MrBliss said:

Supernova said:

MrBliss said:

but the acting is crap... it's a bit of fun sure... but nothing profound

How many great musicians star in films that are the equal of their music?



very few... i guess i'm just pissed because i saw Bjork in 'Dancer In The Dark' the other night, and she was AMAZING... i got to thinking that it's a shame that Prince didn't do a movie that really had some substance

Well, if Prince hasn't re-examined his participation in feature films in general I doubt he wants to improve in the acting department, simply because acting isn't his passion. And I also doubt he wants to interpret someone else's cinematic vision for someone else's script. He likes to have his hand in almost everything (not just in front of the camera, but screenwriting and directing too). Movies aren't his strength. He's better at wearing multiple hats in the studio than he is when it comes to movies. It's no biggie (anymore) especially since it's not his "day job"...:O



i know this may sound far too simplistic... but i just think he's so damn talented that he could have done a lot better... maybe i'm expecting too much
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Reply #29 posted 04/22/03 8:04am

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I know that the films were not the greatest but Graffiti Bridge was more about spirituality and stuff like that so it never quite worked on the big screen.Makes a change from the usual mindless muck we see from the video rental shops and Hollywood.And just remember that most films featuring music stars generally suck like Mariah Careys "Glitter" did and the Spice Girls "spiceworld" before it.
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