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Moon Beam levels written after an acid trip? [according to Susan Rogers!] I guess we have to give her the benefit of doubt seeing as she was there during this period.
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Reply #1 posted 01/15/19 10:10am
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
We were all doing acid in the early 80's.
Unlike me, Susan said he hated it.
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Reply #2 posted 01/15/19 10:24am
Reply #3 posted 01/15/19 10:45am
poppys |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
We were all doing acid in the early 80's.
Unlike me, Susan said he hated it.
True dat. 70s too. The 60s happened during the 70s for the mainstream. Accountants, bankers and insurance salesmen dropped acid at the disco along with everyone else. They always try to make a "decade style" fit in the 10 years alloted, but they really don't.
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Reply #4 posted 01/15/19 10:53am
Reply #5 posted 01/15/19 11:00am
KoolEaze |
She doesn´t sound too sure about what exactly he took. First of all , she admits that she wasn´t even around when he recorded this song so it´s just hearsay, really, and even if it´s true, it could have been anything from weed to LSD to mushrooms (as she also says in the interview). I wonder if we will get to hear or read the full story one day and from those who were actually around when this supposedly happened. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" |
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Reply #6 posted 01/15/19 11:13am
PennyPurple |
Imagine that....he didn't live the drug free life like everybody believed.
Next thing you know, they'll be telling us he was a meat eater.
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Reply #7 posted 01/15/19 11:24am
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PennyPurple said:
Imagine that....he didn't live the drug free life like everybody believed.
Next thing you know, they'll be telling us he was a meat eater.
That was done in the weeks after he died. Claims were made they saw him at a particular resturant eating steak. What is funny, at the time it was believed that he forced Mayte into being a vegetarian or a vegan i forget which during her pregnancy, but now after her book we now know she encouraged him to be one. Which has lead me to just accept little fabrications have made their way into Princelore for decades so take them with a grain of salt.
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Reply #8 posted 01/15/19 11:25am
KoolEaze |
PennyPurple said:
Imagine that....he didn't live the drug free life like everybody believed.
Next thing you know, they'll be telling us he was a meat eater.
I don´t believe that he never took drugs (except for that infamous ecstacy trip before he created Lovesexy) but I doubt that he did any drugs regularly.
It´s a bitter irony that most news outlets still make it look as if he was into drugs and overdosed. It just sounds wrong and incorrect to me. I think there´s a difference between being dependent on painkillers and dying from a mislabeled pill as compared to, say, the drug habits of Motley Crue or other rockstars. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" |
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Reply #9 posted 01/15/19 11:26am
TrivialPursuit
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KoolEaze said:
She doesn´t sound too sure about what exactly he took. First of all , she admits that she wasn´t even around when he recorded this song so it´s just hearsay, really, and even if it´s true, it could have been anything from weed to LSD to mushrooms (as she also says in the interview). I wonder if we will get to hear or read the full story one day and from those who were actually around when this supposedly happened.
I love to hear Susan talk about her time w/ Prince, but her lack of details on this makes it a non-story for me. She had a similar lack of details with the time Prince was on ecstasy with Ingrid, and had her come to the studio late at night. She saw he was high and left immediately. It is no secret he's tried X a few times w/ Ingrid.
As far as "Moonbeam Levels", one of my favorite songs of all time from Prince, I do wonder where that comes from. But it came on the other day in the car. It sorta hit me that maybe it was about feeling close to someone because you can both see the same stars. Moonbeam levels are maybe a vehicle or conduit for sending love between two people on opposite sides of the globe, because they can both see the same moon.
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Reply #10 posted 01/15/19 11:39am
KoolEaze |
TrivialPursuit said:
KoolEaze said:
She doesn´t sound too sure about what exactly he took. First of all , she admits that she wasn´t even around when he recorded this song so it´s just hearsay, really, and even if it´s true, it could have been anything from weed to LSD to mushrooms (as she also says in the interview). I wonder if we will get to hear or read the full story one day and from those who were actually around when this supposedly happened.
I love to hear Susan talk about her time w/ Prince, but her lack of details on this makes it a non-story for me. She had a similar lack of details with the time Prince was on ecstasy with Ingrid, and had her come to the studio late at night. She saw he was high and left immediately. It is no secret he's tried X a few times w/ Ingrid.
As far as "Moonbeam Levels", one of my favorite songs of all time from Prince, I do wonder where that comes from. But it came on the other day in the car. It sorta hit me that maybe it was about feeling close to someone because you can both see the same stars. Moonbeam levels are maybe a vehicle or conduit for sending love between two people on opposite sides of the globe, because they can both see the same moon.
That´s a very interesting interpretation and it makes quite a lot of sense.
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Also....I never knew that he tried X several times. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" |
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Reply #11 posted 01/15/19 11:51am
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KoolEaze said:
TrivialPursuit said:
KoolEaze said:
She doesn´t sound too sure about what exactly he took. First of all , she admits that she wasn´t even around when he recorded this song so it´s just hearsay, really, and even if it´s true, it could have been anything from weed to LSD to mushrooms (as she also says in the interview). I wonder if we will get to hear or read the full story one day and from those who were actually around when this supposedly happened.
I love to hear Susan talk about her time w/ Prince, but her lack of details on this makes it a non-story for me. She had a similar lack of details with the time Prince was on ecstasy with Ingrid, and had her come to the studio late at night. She saw he was high and left immediately. It is no secret he's tried X a few times w/ Ingrid.
As far as "Moonbeam Levels", one of my favorite songs of all time from Prince, I do wonder where that comes from. But it came on the other day in the car. It sorta hit me that maybe it was about feeling close to someone because you can both see the same stars. Moonbeam levels are maybe a vehicle or conduit for sending love between two people on opposite sides of the globe, because they can both see the same moon.
That´s a very interesting interpretation and it makes quite a lot of sense.
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Also....I never knew that he tried X several times.
I also didn’t know that it had been claimed by anyone around at the time (or by anyone in the camp at any time) that P and Ingrid ever took X together. I’m open to new information, but it would be news to me. [Edited 1/15/19 12:08pm] |
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Reply #12 posted 01/15/19 12:27pm
BEAUGARDE
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Prince said she doesn't know shit (lol) |
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Reply #13 posted 01/15/19 12:57pm
KoolEaze |
rednblue said:
KoolEaze said:
That´s a very interesting interpretation and it makes quite a lot of sense.
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Also....I never knew that he tried X several times.
I also didn’t know that it had been claimed by anyone around at the time (or by anyone in the camp at any time) that P and Ingrid ever took X together. I’m open to new information, but it would be news to me. [Edited 1/15/19 12:08pm]
That´s actually a wellknown fact that´s been confirmed by several people over the years, including Ingrid, Susan and Cat.
According to Cat she got the ecstacy from Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers). " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" |
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Reply #14 posted 01/15/19 1:03pm
poppys |
Um, Prince could get any drugs anytime. Just like the rest of America for my entire life - and I'm his age. This is a non-starter.
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Reply #15 posted 01/15/19 1:26pm
BEAUGARDE
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I thinks said it was Prince & not her |
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Reply #16 posted 01/15/19 1:40pm
PennyPurple |
KoolEaze said:
rednblue said:
I also didn’t know that it had been claimed by anyone around at the time (or by anyone in the camp at any time) that P and Ingrid ever took X together. I’m open to new information, but it would be news to me. [Edited 1/15/19 12:08pm]
That´s actually a wellknown fact that´s been confirmed by several people over the years, including Ingrid, Susan and Cat.
According to Cat she got the ecstacy from Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers).
Yes and Anthony is Cat's cousin or something like that. |
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Reply #17 posted 01/15/19 1:43pm
42Kristen |
that is what Susan Rogers wants to be. |
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Reply #18 posted 01/15/19 1:48pm
KoolEaze |
PennyPurple said:
KoolEaze said:
That´s actually a wellknown fact that´s been confirmed by several people over the years, including Ingrid, Susan and Cat.
According to Cat she got the ecstacy from Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers).
Yes and Anthony is Cat's cousin or something like that.
Really?
I didn´t know that. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" |
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Reply #19 posted 01/15/19 2:21pm
dbpdexter |
I have tried weed when i was young and I don't smoke weed or do drugs or consider myself a drug user. Just because Prince had someone give him acid and he tried it before doesn't make him a drug user. AKA PDEXTER |
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Reply #20 posted 01/15/19 2:23pm
Reply #21 posted 01/15/19 2:32pm
herb4 |
dbpdexter said:
I have tried weed when i was young and I don't smoke weed or do drugs or consider myself a drug user. Just because Prince had someone give him acid and he tried it before doesn't make him a drug user.
There's nothing wrong with trying out drugs on occasion. I've tried several.
Opiates are tricky and nasty though. Highly addictive and can beat anyone. Always drew the line at that stuff for that reason. As for the story, I can totally believe he tried it but, more to the point, I can see why he didn't like it. Acid is not the best experience for those types that demand total control.
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Reply #22 posted 01/15/19 2:38pm
rdhull |
BEAUGARDE said:
Prince said she doesn't know shit (lol)
the end "Climb in my fur." |
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Reply #23 posted 01/15/19 2:40pm
KoolEaze |
herb4 said:
dbpdexter said:
I have tried weed when i was young and I don't smoke weed or do drugs or consider myself a drug user. Just because Prince had someone give him acid and he tried it before doesn't make him a drug user.
There's nothing wrong with trying out drugs on occasion. I've tried several.
Opiates are tricky and nasty though. Highly addictive and can beat anyone. Always drew the line at that stuff for that reason. As for the story, I can totally believe he tried it but, more to the point, I can see why he didn't like it. Acid is not the best experience for those types that demand total control.
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That´s one reason why I´ve never tried LSD or mushrooms....the lack of control and the unpredictable effects. I´m surprised to see a huge comeback of psychedelic drugs these days, such as mushrooms, LSD and that vomit inducing plant that is so popular these days (ayahuasca?).
I can´t imagine Prince using such drugs more than once. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" |
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Reply #24 posted 01/15/19 2:49pm
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herb4 said:
dbpdexter said:
I have tried weed when i was young and I don't smoke weed or do drugs or consider myself a drug user. Just because Prince had someone give him acid and he tried it before doesn't make him a drug user.
There's nothing wrong with trying out drugs on occasion. I've tried several.
Opiates are tricky and nasty though. Highly addictive and can beat anyone. Always drew the line at that stuff for that reason. As for the story, I can totally believe he tried it but, more to the point, I can see why he didn't like it. Acid is not the best experience for those types that demand total control.
[Edited 1/15/19 14:33pm]
I think opiates give one the sense they are in 100% control until they find out too late they don't.
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Reply #25 posted 01/15/19 2:55pm
rednblue
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KoolEaze said:
rednblue said:
KoolEaze said:
That´s a very interesting interpretation and it makes quite a lot of sense.
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Also....I never knew that he tried X several times.
I also didn’t know that it had been claimed by anyone around at the time (or by anyone in the camp at any time) that P and Ingrid ever took X together. I’m open to new information, but it would be news to me. [Edited 1/15/19 12:08pm]
That´s actually a wellknown fact that´s been confirmed by several people over the years, including Ingrid, Susan and Cat.
According to Cat she got the ecstacy from Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers).
I read the very same thing in that I read that P got it from Cat (who got it from Anthony), took it and left (even though Cat had asked him to wait). The difference in what I read (vs. the account upthread) is that Ingrid did not take X with P when he took that dose. I read that he took the dose, then (after) went to a club where he met Ingrid for the first time. Did someone say that this account is wrong, such that Ingrid was there with P for the first dose...that Ingrid met him and tried it with him before arriving at the club? And/or that P and Ingrid took X together at other times? [Edited 1/15/19 15:12pm] |
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Reply #26 posted 01/15/19 3:23pm
KoolEaze |
rednblue said:
KoolEaze said:
That´s actually a wellknown fact that´s been confirmed by several people over the years, including Ingrid, Susan and Cat.
According to Cat she got the ecstacy from Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers).
I read the very same thing in that I read that P got it from Cat (who got it from Anthony), took it and left (even though Cat had asked him to wait). The difference in what I read (vs. the account upthread) is that Ingrid did not take X with P when he took that dose. I read that he took the dose, then (after) went to a club where he met Ingrid for the first time. Did someone say that this account is wrong, such that Ingrid was there with P for the first dose...that Ingrid met him and tried it with him before arriving at the club? And/or that P and Ingrid took X together at other times? [Edited 1/15/19 15:12pm]
Ah, okay, I think I misunderstood your original post. You meant Ingrid and Prince taking the pill together. I thought you were questioning whether Prince really took the ecstacy pill at all.
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Reply #27 posted 01/15/19 4:02pm
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KoolEaze said:
rednblue said: KoolEaze said:
That´s actually a wellknown fact that´s been confirmed by several people over the years, including Ingrid, Susan and Cat.
According to Cat she got the ecstacy from Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers).
I read the very same thing in that I read that P got it from Cat (who got it from Anthony), took it and left (even though Cat had asked him to wait). The difference in what I read (vs. the account upthread) is that Ingrid did not take X with P when he took that dose. I read that he took the dose, then (after) went to a club where he met Ingrid for the first time. Did someone say that this account is wrong, such that Ingrid was there with P for the first dose...that Ingrid met him and tried it with him before arriving at the club? And/or that P and Ingrid took X together at other times? [Edited 1/15/19 15:12pm]
Ah, okay, I think I misunderstood your original post. You meant Ingrid and Prince taking the pill together. I thought you were questioning whether Prince really took the ecstacy pill at all. Yes, exactly, and thanks! Don’t mean the question in a bad way. However it went down, I’m a big fan of P, Ingrid, and Cat. |
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Reply #28 posted 01/15/19 4:13pm
luvsexy4all |
intrviewer: Do u do drugs?
Prince: "I like all experiences" .... melody maker or NME |
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Reply #29 posted 01/15/19 5:00pm
herb4 |
KoolEaze said:
herb4 said:
There's nothing wrong with trying out drugs on occasion. I've tried several.
Opiates are tricky and nasty though. Highly addictive and can beat anyone. Always drew the line at that stuff for that reason. As for the story, I can totally believe he tried it but, more to the point, I can see why he didn't like it. Acid is not the best experience for those types that demand total control.
[Edited 1/15/19 14:33pm]
That´s one reason why I´ve never tried LSD or mushrooms....the lack of control and the unpredictable effects. I´m surprised to see a huge comeback of psychedelic drugs these days, such as mushrooms, LSD and that vomit inducing plant that is so popular these days (ayahuasca?).
I can´t imagine Prince using such drugs more than once.
From a safety standpoinbt, psychadelics are extremely low risk provided you're in a safe environment and dont's try to drive or something. AS far as harm to you body, long term abuse or addicitve tendencies, you're good and, believe it or not, there's been some success treating depression and ptsd with them. They CAN open doors and widen a person's perceptions in lasting ways so in a certain sense I can see a positive in their increasing popularity.
BEtter than alcohol, coke, heroin and many legal pills.
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