mbdtyler said:

Purple Rain wouldn't be Purple Rain without this track, period. It's the perfect romantic cool-down after the blazing energy of the album opener. Hell, Appollonia's vocals are even charming in spite of her limitations as a singer!

And those opening thunderous drums. And those creamy synth strings. And the intermttent psychadelic strains.

Apollonia is playing Vanity. A strong singer is not her story.

I was watching a critique of Prince somewhere and the guy stated that he wasn't a fan of Purple Rain because it was too white and used Take Me With U as the perfect example as to why.

He showed the concert video and said, Look at them. They love that sh!t!"

iZsaZsa said:

Apollonia is playing Vanity. A strong singer is not her story.

Yes and No on that one. I read that once they cast Apollonia they made some changes to the script, because she was a different personality and they wanted to make it less "dark". Either way, it's true that neither were strong singers. The story of that character was a beautiful girl trying to become a "star".

CynicKill said:

A song probably near 100% of people can relate to at some point, with music to match the feeling. That is a perfect (and timeless) pop song.

...but then to package it with the other gems on Purple Rain = utter brilliance.

rdhull said:

CynicKill said:

I was watching a critique of Prince somewhere and the guy stated that he wasn't a fan of Purple Rain because it was too white and used Take Me With U as the perfect example as to why.

He showed the concert video and said, Look at them. They love that sh!t!"

Lmao... I can see how they tried to plug pop and new wave into it what with the initial beginning when he is preaching in Let’s Go Crazy. There’s a myriad of white new wavers up in there etc etc. I can imagine the rock kind of put some of the brothas off as they were probably expecting funkdified Prince and Time only. Hell they were all warned as it was reported in black based magazines saying that prince music was changing to be more accessible for the masses to make the movie successful.

Well, he does have that lyric, "you never woulda drank my coffee if I didn't serve you cream..."

tump said:

A song probably near 100% of people can relate to at some point, with music to match the feeling. That is a perfect (and timeless) pop song.

...but then to package it with the other gems on Purple Rain = utter brilliance.

Agreed. The audience response during the Syracuse concert in 1985 is a testament to the pop genius of that song. They went absolutely nuts. The whole arena was jumping up and down in unison. A great moment. It also drew a great crowd response when he played it in later years.

violetcrush said:

rdhull said:

CynicKill said: Lmao... I can see how they tried to plug pop and new wave into it what with the initial beginning when he is preaching in Let’s Go Crazy. There’s a myriad of white new wavers up in there etc etc. I can imagine the rock kind of put some of the brothas off as they were probably expecting funkdified Prince and Time only. Hell they were all warned as it was reported in black based magazines saying that prince music was changing to be more accessible for the masses to make the movie successful.

Well, he does have that lyric, "you never woulda drank my coffee if I didn't serve you cream..."

"What's My Name" - Prince (recorded just before he changed to )

*

violetcrush said:

iZsaZsa said:

Apollonia is playing Vanity. A strong singer is not her story.

Yes and No on that one. I read that once they cast Apollonia they made some changes to the script, because she was a different personality and they wanted to make it less "dark". Either way, it's true that neither were strong singers. The story of that character was a beautiful girl trying to become a "star".

I don't care if somebody changed Canada to New Orleans, or cut the anal scene. Prince had the rocky relationship to stardom with Denise, not Patricia.

iZsaZsa said:

violetcrush said:

iZsaZsa said:

I don't care if somebody changed Canada to New Orleans, or cut the anal scene. Prince had the rocky relationship to stardom with Denise, not Patricia.

Actually, Prince met Denise 5+ years after he signed his record deal with WB. So, if you're talking about his "rocky relationship" to stardom with women you're going to have to include Kim Upsher and Susan Moonsie too, as they were there long before Vanity.

No I don't. Apollonia is playing Vanity is what I said/say.

(28) EXT. HIGHWAY -- DUSK * TAKE ME WITH YOU *

Prince and Vanity on his MOTORCYCLE
blazing down the HIGHWAY, twisting
through TRAFFIC. The CITY is behind
them, receding into the distance.

I can't disguise the pounding of my heart
It beats so strong
It's in your eyes, what can I say
They turn me on

I don't care where we go
I don't care what we do
I don't care pretty baby
Just take me with U

(29) Ext. COUNTRYSIDE -- DUSK

They pull off an access road, drop down
a small embankment, ride down a narrow,
dirt road.

Come on and touch the place in me
That's calling out your name
We want each other oh so much
Why must we play this game?

Don't care where we go
I don't care what we do
I don't care pretty baby
Just take me with U

I don't care if we spend the night at your mansion
I don't care if we spend the night on the town
All I want is 2 spend the night 2gether
All I want is 2 spend the night in your arms

LAKESIDE

The pull to a stop. A LAKE stretches
before them. Vanity gets off the bike,
walks around exploring, casting curious
glances at Prince. He stands by the
water, idly tossing stones--



VANITY
My psychic told me I was
going to be famous.

PRINCE
How much did that cost you?

VANITY
Fifty bucks. It was a good
investment.

He doesn't respond -- she suddenly feels
shy--

VANITY
No seriously -- My psychic did
tell me. I was in a play
once.

PRINCE
Oh, yeah -- what did you play?

VANITY
Isadora Duncan...

She stretches her arms like a butterfly,
does a little step--

VANITY
That means I can sing and
dance.
(a beat)
Want to help me?



PRINCE
(swiftly)
Nope.

VANITY
(surprised)
Pardon me?

PRINCE
Nope.

She's Perplexed--

PRINCE
Want to know why?

VANITY
(defensively)
Nope.


PRINCE
(a beat)
Because you wouldn't pass the
initiation.

VANITY
What initiation?

PRINCE
Well, for starters ycu have to
purify yourself in the waters
of Lake Minnetonka.

VANITY
What?

PRINCE
You have to purify yourself in
Lake Minnetonka.

WHAT A SCENE!!!

Wonder why they changed the dialogue from the psychic bit to the other. I actually like the original better. Also, were the lyrics to the song actually written into the original script like that?? Curious, because he didn't record the song until end of January 1984. That would be interesting given the fact that he usually came up with lyrics as he was recording his songs.

violetcrush said:

Wonder why they changed the dialogue from the psychic bit to the other. I actually like the original better. Also, were the lyrics to the song actually written into the original script like that?? Curious, because he didn't record the song until end of January 1984. That would be interesting given the fact that he usually came up with lyrics as he was recording his songs.

No, I added the lyrics to see how they flowed with the scene

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

Wonder why they changed the dialogue from the psychic bit to the other. I actually like the original better. Also, were the lyrics to the song actually written into the original script like that?? Curious, because he didn't record the song until end of January 1984. That would be interesting given the fact that he usually came up with lyrics as he was recording his songs.

No, I added the lyrics to see how they flowed with the scene

Okay, that's what I figured.