luvsexy4all said:

kirk has the answers to the pill fiascos and is not being "forced" to reveal

I reakon he has revealed to authorities what went down to clear his name

Dimitri10 said:

Dimitri10 said:

luvsexy4all said:

kirk has the answers to the pill fiascos and is not being "forced" to reveal

I reakon he has revealed to authorities what went down to clear his name

No he hasn't. He only gave them that initial interview. He lawyered up and hasn't spoke with them since. Meron either. They tried to make contact with Phaedra too, and it was a no go.

PennyPurple said:

Dimitri10 said:

I reakon he has revealed to authorities what went down to clear his name

No he hasn't. He only gave them that initial interview. He lawyered up and hasn't spoke with them since. Meron either. They tried to make contact with Phaedra too, and it was a no go.

Even though I have long known this and have seen this info posted many times on this thread, it's STUNNING to read and absorb the words once again...they speak volumes. Thanks for sharing again, Penny.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

No he hasn't. He only gave them that initial interview. He lawyered up and hasn't spoke with them since. Meron either. They tried to make contact with Phaedra too, and it was a no go.

Even though I have long known this and have seen this info posted many times on this thread, it's STUNNING to read and absorb the words once again...they speak volumes. Thanks for sharing again, Penny.

It's shocking to me too.

PennyPurple said:

nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

It's shocking to me too.

And sad.

It is definitely sad. However, it was never shocking to me. Perhaps I am just jaded.

I never expected that his "close associates": Kirk, etc. would provide any information because they were complicit. I would surmise Kirk, Meron may have arranged or picked up drugs for him as they were responsible for handling most day to day matters for P.

Do you think perhaps P got the counterfeit hydrocone when he was in San Fransisco?

nelcp777 said:

Do you think perhaps P got the counterfeit hydrocone when he was in San Fransisco?

I think P. bought drugs from multiple sources. I think he had a local source in Minn. and he also bought drugs at concert venues.

nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

It's shocking to me too.

And sad.

I'm gonna swing the pendulum the other way.

I think Prince used Kirk as a legitimate cover ( having Dr.Schulenberg write a script for Percocet) in the event anything was stated about opiate use ( see Kirks questioning of Prince at Moline Hospital). This would be consistent with what ex-managers have stated that Prince would have them try to do. I believe that Prince did not want to be tied to anything that could link him to using any form of drugs, ililcit or not.

In Moline, he (Kirk)repeatedly asked him where did he get the other drugs ( opiates) and when Prince responds that it was in his bag, it appears Kirk did not know Prince was in possession of said substances besides the percocet. What Kirk inadvertently admitted to the doctors in Moline is knowledge about the percocet since there was a script in his name .He (kirk ) did lie to the detective about getting a script for Prince. He had also apologized to Dr. Schulenberg for requesting that he write a script for the (15) percocet pills. Dr.Schulenberg knew it was for Prince but elected to put it in Kirk's name.

I would assume the if Kirk was giving Prince these drugs, Prince would have at least stated something to the effect of " you gave them to me /got them for me" when Kirk was drilling him for information. .

Let's also remember how defiant and adamant Prince was when he was speaking to Judith Hill about what they had put into his body. He went into a spiritual diatribe to excuse the fact that he needed to know what they were putting in his body.

I think Prince procured these drugs thru a local source unknown to any associate. This was a shit load of narcotics for one person and one would need a very reliable and confidential source to procure such amounts. This is a very very clever person.

[Edited 2/18/19 17:18pm]

That's very true Menes. I still think if KJ wanted to help solve the mystery he could've at least answered more of their questions.

Menes said:

I'm gonna swing the pendulum the other way.

I think Prince used Kirk as a legitimate cover ( having Dr.Schulenberg write a script for Percocet) in the event anything was stated about opiate use ( see Kirks questioning of Prince at Moline Hospital). This would be consistent with what ex-managers have stated that Prince would have them try to do. I believe that Prince did not want to be tied to anything that could link him to using any form of drugs, ililcit or not.

In Moline, he (Kirk)repeatedly asked him where did he get the other drugs ( opiates) and when Prince responds that it was in his bag, it appears Kirk did not know Prince was in possession of said substances besides the percocet. What Kirk inadvertently admitted to the doctors in Moline is knowledge about the percocet since there was a script in his name .He (kirk ) did lie to the detective about getting a script for Prince. He had also apologized to Dr. Schulenberg for requesting that he write a script for the (15) percocet pills. Dr.Schulenberg knew it was for Prince but elected to put it in Kirk's name.

I would assume the if Kirk was giving Prince these drugs, Prince would have at least stated something to the effect of " you gave them to me /got them for me" when Kirk was drilling him for information. .

Let's also remember how defiant and adamant Prince was when he was speaking to Judith Hill about what they had put into his body. He went into a spiritual diatribe to excuse the fact that he needed to know what they were putting in his body.

I think Prince procured these drugs thru a local source unknown to any associate. This was a shit load of narcotics for one person and one would need a very reliable and confidential source to procure such amounts. This is a very very clever person.

[Edited 2/18/19 17:18pm]

Menes said:

nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said: And sad.

I'm gonna swing the pendulum the other way.

I think Prince used Kirk as a legitimate cover ( having Dr.Schulenberg write a script for Percocet) in the event anything was stated about opiate use ( see Kirks questioning of Prince at Moline Hospital). This would be consistent with what ex-managers have stated that Prince would have them try to do. I believe that Prince did not want to be tied to anything that could link him to using any form of drugs, ililcit or not.

In Moline, he (Kirk)repeatedly asked him where did he get the other drugs ( opiates) and when Prince responds that it was in his bag, it appears Kirk did not know Prince was in possession of said substances besides the percocet. What Kirk inadvertently admitted to the doctors in Moline is knowledge about the percocet since there was a script in his name .He (kirk ) did lie to the detective about getting a script for Prince. He had also apologized to Dr. Schulenberg for requesting that he write a script for the (15) percocet pills. Dr.Schulenberg knew it was for Prince but elected to put it in Kirk's name.

I would assume the if Kirk was giving Prince these drugs, Prince would have at least stated something to the effect of " you gave them to me /got them for me" when Kirk was drilling him for information. .

Let's also remember how defiant and adamant Prince was when he was speaking to Judith Hill about what they had put into his body. He went into a spiritual diatribe to excuse the fact that he needed to know what they were putting in his body.

I think Prince procured these drugs thru a local source unknown to any associate. This was a shit load of narcotics for one person and one would need a very reliable and confidential source to procure such amounts. This is a very very clever person.

[Edited 2/18/19 17:18pm]

In addition , let's remember that the percocet bottle /pills disappeared into the ether at Moline or at PP . Kirk mentions "percocets" but not one detective followed up on how many were still left , or where the bottle was. My guess is that Kirk dispatched of that evidence if fairly quick order.

Was it percocet( oxycodone) that was found in Prince's system when Dr. Schulenberg did his analysis after Moline? I believe the percocets ( in combination with something else was what he took in Moline).

[Edited 2/18/19 17:49pm]

Menes said:

Menes said:

I'm gonna swing the pendulum the other way.

I think Prince used Kirk as a legitimate cover ( having Dr.Schulenberg write a script for Percocet) in the event anything was stated about opiate use ( see Kirks questioning of Prince at Moline Hospital). This would be consistent with what ex-managers have stated that Prince would have them try to do. I believe that Prince did not want to be tied to anything that could link him to using any form of drugs, ililcit or not.

In Moline, he (Kirk)repeatedly asked him where did he get the other drugs ( opiates) and when Prince responds that it was in his bag, it appears Kirk did not know Prince was in possession of said substances besides the percocet. What Kirk inadvertently admitted to the doctors in Moline is knowledge about the percocet since there was a script in his name .He (kirk ) did lie to the detective about getting a script for Prince. He had also apologized to Dr. Schulenberg for requesting that he write a script for the (15) percocet pills. Dr.Schulenberg knew it was for Prince but elected to put it in Kirk's name.

I would assume the if Kirk was giving Prince these drugs, Prince would have at least stated something to the effect of " you gave them to me /got them for me" when Kirk was drilling him for information. .

Let's also remember how defiant and adamant Prince was when he was speaking to Judith Hill about what they had put into his body. He went into a spiritual diatribe to excuse the fact that he needed to know what they were putting in his body.

I think Prince procured these drugs thru a local source unknown to any associate. This was a shit load of narcotics for one person and one would need a very reliable and confidential source to procure such amounts. This is a very very clever person.

[Edited 2/18/19 17:18pm]

In addition , let's remember that the percocet bottle /pills disappeared into the ether at Moline or at PP . Kirk mentions "percocets" but not one detective followed up on how many were still left , or where the bottle was. My guess is that Kirk dispatched of that evidence if fairly quick order.

Was it percocet( oxycodone) that was found in Prince's system when Dr. Schulenberg did his analysis after Moline? I believe the percocets ( in combination with something else was what he took in Moline).

I'll have to go back and check. I think that the UA showed Dr. S that there were opiates in his urine, the blood test had not come back at that time, and Dr. S never got the blood results because the Coroners office, had them sent over there instead of to Dr. S.

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

In addition , let's remember that the percocet bottle /pills disappeared into the ether at Moline or at PP . Kirk mentions "percocets" but not one detective followed up on how many were still left , or where the bottle was. My guess is that Kirk dispatched of that evidence if fairly quick order.

Was it percocet( oxycodone) that was found in Prince's system when Dr. Schulenberg did his analysis after Moline? I believe the percocets ( in combination with something else was what he took in Moline).

I'll have to go back and check. I think that the UA showed Dr. S that there were opiates in his urine, the blood test had not come back at that time, and Dr. S never got the blood results because the Coroners office, had them sent over there instead of to Dr. S.

The analysis Dr. Schulenberg gave Prince came back positive on 4-25-16 for Hydrocodone253ng/ml and Hydromorphone 87ng/ml.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

I'll have to go back and check. I think that the UA showed Dr. S that there were opiates in his urine, the blood test had not come back at that time, and Dr. S never got the blood results because the Coroners office, had them sent over there instead of to Dr. S.

The analysis Dr. Schulenberg gave Prince came back positive on 4-25-16 for Hydrocodone253ng/ml and Hydromorphone 87ng/ml.

Someone on this forum mentioned and understood what mixed drug intoxication meant, and what the numbers I just wrote mean.


Place into a conversion table somewhere on our friend google , then find out the recommended dosage for each. Are they high? Low? Normal? Near fatal?One should do this before getting on to the fentanyl amount? How about if you mixed the two drugs that resulted in such numbers? What would that change?

Is this before/ after the Moline show friends. Just saying.

Menes said:

.....snipped.....

I think Prince procured these drugs thru a local source unknown to any associate. This was a shit load of narcotics for one person and one would need a very reliable and confidential source to procure such amounts. This is a very very clever person.

[Edited 2/18/19 17:18pm]

I've noticed that a lot of people think this but only when it's convenient to do so. They'd rather think he didn't know his way around a computer or the internet

Menes said:

Menes said:

I'm gonna swing the pendulum the other way.

I think Prince used Kirk as a legitimate cover ( having Dr.Schulenberg write a script for Percocet) in the event anything was stated about opiate use ( see Kirks questioning of Prince at Moline Hospital). This would be consistent with what ex-managers have stated that Prince would have them try to do. I believe that Prince did not want to be tied to anything that could link him to using any form of drugs, ililcit or not.

In Moline, he (Kirk)repeatedly asked him where did he get the other drugs ( opiates) and when Prince responds that it was in his bag, it appears Kirk did not know Prince was in possession of said substances besides the percocet. What Kirk inadvertently admitted to the doctors in Moline is knowledge about the percocet since there was a script in his name .He (kirk ) did lie to the detective about getting a script for Prince. He had also apologized to Dr. Schulenberg for requesting that he write a script for the (15) percocet pills. Dr.Schulenberg knew it was for Prince but elected to put it in Kirk's name.

I would assume the if Kirk was giving Prince these drugs, Prince would have at least stated something to the effect of " you gave them to me /got them for me" when Kirk was drilling him for information. .

Let's also remember how defiant and adamant Prince was when he was speaking to Judith Hill about what they had put into his body. He went into a spiritual diatribe to excuse the fact that he needed to know what they were putting in his body.

I think Prince procured these drugs thru a local source unknown to any associate. This was a shit load of narcotics for one person and one would need a very reliable and confidential source to procure such amounts. This is a very very clever person.

In addition , let's remember that the percocet bottle /pills disappeared into the ether at Moline or at PP . Kirk mentions "percocets" but not one detective followed up on how many were still left , or where the bottle was. My guess is that Kirk dispatched of that evidence if fairly quick order.

Was it percocet( oxycodone) that was found in Prince's system when Dr. Schulenberg did his analysis after Moline? I believe the percocets ( in combination with something else was what he took in Moline).

[Edited 2/18/19 17:49pm]

The police did in fact find the script in Kirk's name with 10 pills.

The test results came back as (oxy) percocets.

The police also found one oxy in P's black bag.

If you remember Dr. S prescribed 15 (oxy) perc's on the date of the Atlanta concert so 4 were missing.

Mumio said:

Menes said:

.....snipped.....

I think Prince procured these drugs thru a local source unknown to any associate. This was a shit load of narcotics for one person and one would need a very reliable and confidential source to procure such amounts. This is a very very clever person.

[Edited 2/18/19 17:18pm]

I've noticed that a lot of people think this but only when it's convenient to do so. They'd rather think he didn't know his way around a computer or the internet

I don't doubt that P. was clever. I also agree he was able to operate a computer.

However, I also think that he bought drugs in cash and this was on purpose so there would be no paper trail.

leec1 said:

Mumio said:

I've noticed that a lot of people think this but only when it's convenient to do so. They'd rather think he didn't know his way around a computer or the internet

I don't doubt that P. was clever. I also agree he was able to operate a computer.

However, I also think that he bought drugs in cash and this was on purpose so there would be no paper trail.

not a put-down, just confused: I thought everyone paid cash (or traded sex or a mutually agreed upon something of value) for drugs. Do some people really write checks or use a credit card?

Wow look at this.

https://www.vice.com/en_u...n-1-comics

^^ Wow go to the link and see the whole book. Looks like the comic guy has seen the pics.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

Good to have you back Menes!

second that motion hi Menes

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Menes said:

In addition , let's remember that the percocet bottle /pills disappeared into the ether at Moline or at PP . Kirk mentions "percocets" but not one detective followed up on how many were still left , or where the bottle was. My guess is that Kirk dispatched of that evidence if fairly quick order.

Was it percocet( oxycodone) that was found in Prince's system when Dr. Schulenberg did his analysis after Moline? I believe the percocets ( in combination with something else was what he took in Moline).

[Edited 2/18/19 17:49pm]

The police did in fact find the script in Kirk's name with 10 pills.

The test results came back as (oxy) percocets.

The police also found one oxy in P's black bag.

If you remember Dr. S prescribed 15 (oxy) perc's on the date of the Atlanta concert so 4 were missing.

The test results showed two things that came back on 4-25 -16 with their respective numbers in ng/ml. Which report are you reading? I'm reading it right now. This was discussed quite a bit ago in earlier threads as well.

I did pose the question as to what the quantative amounts of each drug excreted would mean but no one answered.

leec1 said:

Mumio said:

I've noticed that a lot of people think this but only when it's convenient to do so. They'd rather think he didn't know his way around a computer or the internet

I don't doubt that P. was clever. I also agree he was able to operate a computer.

However, I also think that he bought drugs in cash and this was on purpose so there would be no paper trail.

I agree with this. This is a cash transaction in my opinion. Deleted files on computers aren't really deleted in the raw sense of the word. I thought there was a scrub done on his mac? From what I remember, they looked at all queries from as far back as '15 to about the last week prior to his death?

XxAxX said:

PennyPurple said:

Good to have you back Menes!

second that motion hi Menes

hi, Xx!

PennyPurple said:

^^ Wow go to the link and see the whole book. Looks like the comic guy has seen the pics.

I checked it out....and was impressed by what he's done and said here. Thanks Penny

leec1 said:

Drugs bought on the dark web aren't bought with cash

Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

^^ Wow go to the link and see the whole book. Looks like the comic guy has seen the pics.

I checked it out....and was impressed by what he's done and said here. Thanks Penny

I get the drift but still thought it kinda strange and really sad in a way.