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December 11th 1987 Sheila E birthday music

Ce soir, la chante all night long

Le Grind

Bob George

2NigsUnited4WestCompton

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Reply #1 posted 12/13/18 8:47pm

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He painted a picture
called Le Grind --
hittin' so tall.
And then Cindy C --
THE vogue fantasy.
Horns & vocals 2 die 4.

He had allowed
the dark side of him 2 create something evil.

2 Nigs United
4 West Compton.

Camille and his ego.

Bob George.

Why?


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Reply #2 posted 12/13/18 8:54pm

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Serve it up, Frankie

This is precisely what I intend to do, honey

Honey, do you know I let Robert cut my hair this morning?
(Honey, look at this one here) (I'm looking Joe trying to see)

Oh girl, where'd you get those shoes?

You know he had me looking so bad (Honey, she's so free)
I'm so tired

These are "come-and-fuck-me" pumps (Who, Robert?)

Maurice thinks: (Mm, I think that's right, honey)

Go on up to her, say something

Maurice, what, what can I serve you? (You mean he's male?)

Baby, I swear to God if you don't kiss them
I'm going to kick your super natural ass!

Frankie, play something, bitch!

Squirrel Meat!


Uh! Don't try it!

Cat, what's happening babe? (Bitch, would you play something?)

Get out of my face! (Honey, it's not that type of party)
(Talk to me, talk to me - do you remember me?)

What cha mean? (Honey, he could teach you the answer to life)

Honey, you see these pumps? (Bitch!)
(Answer? Honey, you ain't gonna quit)

I want to, I want to: (Who you calling bitch? Ho bitch!)
I want you to meet some friends of mine (Bitch!)
(Frankie, play somethig - shit!)
(Who you calling ho bitch? Black ho bitch!)
No, no - You'll like them
They're, they're musicians

2nigsUnted4WestCompton


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Reply #3 posted 12/13/18 11:16pm

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I love The Black Album. The music is clever and complex, but still has a punch. It's both funny and dark. Pure Prince. Great stuff.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #4 posted 12/14/18 12:34am

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I love the Black Album too - it has "fermented" well over time. It's so dark and claustrophobic but funky and primal. The way it was recorded in a way reminds me of "There's A Riot Going On" - dark and murky and deep. Prince was so in control of his gift at this point that in a way he could only progress by being abstract. "Le Grind", "Cindy C"and "Rock Hard" - wow what an underground Purple treasure. I think it would have fared slightly better than "Lovesexy" only because it was rude and street. I think the real miss in that period though was "Camille" - that would have been a great Prince album.

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Reply #5 posted 12/14/18 6:34am

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Another Black Album lover over here.

Album has lots of dark stuff for sure, but don't know that I'd say it's got a dark opener. To me, Le Grind is FUN, but it's not one of P's darker songs.


"For we are strong as we are intelligent."


But then there's this:

"Is that your boyfriend? Ha, I don't care."


So gotta admit...dark sneaks into the fun.

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Another Black Album lover over here.

Album has lots of dark stuff for sure, but don't know that I'd say it's got a dark opener. To me, Le Grind is FUN, but it's not one of P's darker songs.


"For we are strong as we are intelligent."


But then there's this:

"Is that your boyfriend? Ha, I don't care."


So gotta admit...dark sneaks into the fun.

I wonder if this is the 'dark opener' has a sinister feel to it. A lot of people miss it lol in that deep voice

So, U found me
Good, I'm glad
This is Prince - the cool of cools
Some of U may not know this, but some of U may know
Some of U may not want 2 know
We are here 2 give U service
Please don't try 2 stop us 4 we come regardless
4 we are as strong as we are intelligent
So come vibe with us
Funk Bible - the New Testament

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What's the matter with your life
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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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I love imaging what a Black album era could have been like. I think more like the Lovesexy aftershows than the tour

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Reply #8 posted 12/14/18 7:19am

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Serve it up, Frankie

This is precisely what I intend to do, honey

Honey, do you know I let Robert cut my hair this morning?
(Honey, look at this one here) (I'm looking Joe trying to see)

Oh girl, where'd you get those shoes?

You know he had me looking so bad (Honey, she's so free)
I'm so tired

These are "come-and-fuck-me" pumps (Who, Robert?)

Maurice thinks: (Mm, I think that's right, honey)

Go on up to her, say something

Maurice, what, what can I serve you? (You mean he's male?)

Baby, I swear to God if you don't kiss them
I'm going to kick your super natural ass!

Frankie, play something, bitch!

Squirrel Meat!


Uh! Don't try it!

Cat, what's happening babe? (Bitch, would you play something?)

Get out of my face! (Honey, it's not that type of party)
(Talk to me, talk to me - do you remember me?)

What cha mean? (Honey, he could teach you the answer to life)

Honey, you see these pumps? (Bitch!)
(Answer? Honey, you ain't gonna quit)

I want to, I want to: (Who you calling bitch? Ho bitch!)
I want you to meet some friends of mine (Bitch!)
(Frankie, play somethig - shit!)
(Who you calling ho bitch? Black ho bitch!)
No, no - You'll like them
They're, they're musicians

2nigsUnted4WestCompton


I've never seen the dialogue written out like that. Awesome!

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #9 posted 12/15/18 5:59am

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I love imaging what a Black album era could have been like. I think more like the Lovesexy aftershows than the tour




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I think the New Years Eve show in 87 might be a good indication.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #10 posted 12/15/18 10:17am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

rednblue said:


Another Black Album lover over here.

Album has lots of dark stuff for sure, but don't know that I'd say it's got a dark opener. To me, Le Grind is FUN, but it's not one of P's darker songs.


"For we are strong as we are intelligent."


But then there's this:

"Is that your boyfriend? Ha, I don't care."


So gotta admit...dark sneaks into the fun.

I wonder if this is the 'dark opener' has a sinister feel to it. A lot of people miss it lol in that deep voice

So, U found me
Good, I'm glad
This is Prince - the cool of cools
Some of U may not know this, but some of U may know
Some of U may not want 2 know
We are here 2 give U service
Please don't try 2 stop us 4 we come regardless
4 we are as strong as we are intelligent
So come vibe with us
Funk Bible - the New Testament


Love this! And yes! Pulled out "For we are strong as we are intelligent" quote from that with thoughts of, what purposes will that strength and intelligence serve? lol

P.S. P would approve of your use of "4." I messed that up! Thanks 4 correcting. : )

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Reply #11 posted 12/15/18 10:18am

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no one realizes to include this album in the first golden era 80-88...

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That was just the SOTT show with extra, that was safe

I would think the Black album shows might render darker dangerous themes

lightly touched on during the Lovesexy tours, BobGeorge and SuperfunkiCalifragiSexy

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I love imaging what a Black album era could have been like. I think more like the Lovesexy aftershows than the tour

Image may contain: people standing

I think the New Years Eve show in 87 might be a good indication.

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What's the matter with your life
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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
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luvsexy4all said:

no one realizes to include this album in the first golden era 80-88...

I ALWAYS do

I wish when his albums are listed they in mags or online articles that it would be posted between SOTT/Lovesexy

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Basic tracks were recorded on 10 December, 1986 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (the day after 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton). The track, along with Bob George and 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton, was recorded for a birthday party Prince was hosting for Sheila E. on 11 December, 1986. It is likely that the low voiceover in the song's introduction was added later (starting with "So U found me, good..." and ending with "So come vibe with us / Welcome 2 the Funk Bible / The new testament"), as it clearly serves as an introduction to the album. It is known that he completed work on the album in early October, 1987 at Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA, which is probably when this part was recorded.

1. Le Grind

So, U found me
Good, I'm glad
This is Prince - the cool of cools
Some of U may not know this, but some of U may know
Some of U may not want 2 know
We are here 2 give U service
Please don't try 2 stop us 4 we come regardless
4 we are as strong as we are intelligent
So come vibe with us
Funk Bible - the New Testament

People get ready
Nouveau dance here
All the girls and all the boys get close
Have no fear (Have no fear)

We're gonna do the grind y'all, uh
Gotcha where I wantcha
And girly, it's go'n feel so good (So good)
Up and down, up and down on the beat y'all
Like a pony would, pony would
Le Grind

All the boys grab a girl
Get down on the floor, ooh
This funky beat's gonna show U
Gonna show U what your hips are made 4, uh (Nouveau)
Grind - come on (People)
People, it's much 2 late, it's much 2 late 2 be shy
London, what does Big Ben say?
"Time 2 do the grind"
No hear U, say - "Time 2 do the grind"
Le Grind

Baby, I gotcha where I wantcha now
I gotcha where I wantcha, wantcha
Ce soir, la chatte all night long {"2night, sing it all night long"} {x2}

(Grind) {repeat in BG}
Hey pretty mama with the long hair
Is that your boyfriend? Huh, I don't care
Cuz I can do, mm, said I can do tricks he could never do
When I get naked, we'll see the real U (Aah!)
Am I gettin through?
I got U where I wantcha (Baby)
(Baby, baby)
Piano man, put it where it feel good

Grind {x4}
Le Grind, grind {x2}

(Woo!)
This party, this party is gonna last all night
When I give the cue - scream, alright?
Party (Party) {x2}
U say it - party (Party)
Clap your hands double time

All the boys say - "Yeah, yeah" (Yeah, yeah)
All the girls say - "Oh yeah" (Oh yeah)
Now all U others say - "Hell yeah" (Hell yeah)
2 sexy - grind, grind
(I guarantee)
Not yet Boni

Grind {x3}
Le Grind
Grind {x2}
Le Grind

People get ready
Nouveau dance here
Girls and boys get close
Have no fear (Grind)
Doin' the grind, doin' the grind in here
(Put it where it feels good)

(Hey yeah)
I do believe that we've truly touched on something nouveau
(La, la, la, la, la…)
Come on
Am I in the right place? (Don't move)
Woo! Are U sure, baby?
Are U sure I'm in the right place? (Don't move, don't move)

(Grind) {repeat}
Come on (Yeah)
Girl, put it where it feel good (Hey)
Not there, not there (What'd U say?)
Put it where it feels good
Slow down, uh
Slammin'!
Le Grind

Up and down, up and down feels so good
Up and down, up and down like a pony would
Up and down, up and down feels so good
Up and down, up and down like a pony would (Like a pony would)
Like a pony would (Like a pony would)
Like a pony would
Le Grind, uh
Slammin'!
Grind, grind
(Serve it up, Frankie) (Thank U)
Slammin'!
Le Grind
(2 fine – look at him)
Put it where it feel good
{Crowd noise}
Grind

People get ready
People - nouveau dance here
People get ready
Doin' the grind up in here, up in here (Grind, grind)
(People, get ready)
Grind, grind
(Frankie, honey, U know U look good)
Le Grind, grind
Grind!

n_a

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PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS

Friday, November 25, 1994
Section: FEATURES YO!
Page: 98

DISCS

'BLACK' IS GOLDEN FOR PURPLE ONE

by Jonathan Takiff, Daily News Staff Writer


THE BLACK ALBUM
Prince
Warner Brothers
* * * *

Just before its scheduled debut in December 1987, Prince suddenly decided to cancel his new album release. It was a time of heavy censorship agitation against pop music, and evidently Prince (or his advisers) didn't want to supply more fuel for the fire with this patently sexy set, which was never officially titled but known by its monochrome, type-free cover as "The Black Album."

Prince paid off Warner Brothers to have all 400,000 copies of the initial pressing destroyed. Yet a few copies escaped and fell into the wrong (or right) hands. Almost overnight, "The Black Album" became, according to Prince's label, the most bootlegged album in history.

As well it should have. The set is one of the hardest, funkiest works Prince has ever cranked out. Its eight solid jams hark stylistically to the scorched scorings of James Brown and Sly and the Family Stone, tip a hat to the hip-hop community and allude to the progressive jazz-rock horn charts of Frank Zappa. And like Zappa, Prince boldly mixed the musically sacred with the lyrically profane.

The electro-percolating "Le Grind" is a definition of dirty dancing that leaves nothing to the imagination. "Up and down, up and down like a pony would," pants our boy.

Elsewhere, Prince espouses the aphrodisiac powers of squirrel meat (who knew?) in "Superfunkacalafrajasexy" and encourages guys to excite the sisters by licking on their knees (who knew that was a hot spot?) in the rapping, rapturous "On It."

The bold one begs a beauty mark-festooned model named "Cindy C." to let him "see you in your birthday suit tonight." Look out, Richard Gere!

The set also is home to the Prince concert favorite "When 2 R N Love," a pretty ballad that encourages romantics "nothing's forbidden and nothing's taboo."

Designed to spark even more controversy was a hard-bitten gangsta rap called "Bob," in which Prince processes his voice to sound like Barry White, and plays the ugly part of a gun-wielding, chauvinist pig.

I could do without the last track. But the rest are a kick and a half. And the double good news, as you may have guessed already, is that you finally can hear this music officially. Prince and Warners have struck a unique deal to issue "The Black Album" for a limited, two-month span, commencing this week and ending Jan. 27. So if you want it, come and get it fast.

Amusingly, Warner Bros. is offering "amnesty" to buyers of the bootleg. The first 1,000 felons who turn in their "naughty, counterfeit" copies will receive a new official CD or cassette copy. To participate, send your contraband album to Amnesty Offer, Warner Bros. Records, Box 6868, Burbank, Calif. 91505.

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1986

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

1986

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What's the matter with your life
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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
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12.1.1987 Tonight Show

1. Nows The Time

2. Drum Solo

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12.1.1987 Tonight Show

1. Nows The Time

2. Drum Solo

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Who is the guy in the bottom pic looking at Sheila? LOL

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Reply #20 posted 12/19/18 8:36am

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Prince would have never gotten away with the stuff he pulled with women in this day and time, he so would have been accused of sexual exploitation and abuse of them, right or wrong?

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

12.1.1987 Tonight Show

1. Nows The Time

2. Drum Solo

Image result for Sheila E on the Tonight Show 1987

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Who is the guy in the bottom pic looking at Sheila? LOL


I think it's Patrick Swayze. I used to have this recorded on a VHS tape and watched it sooo many times as a kid. She was such a beast.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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PennyPurple said:

Who is the guy in the bottom pic looking at Sheila? LOL


I think it's Patrick Swayze. I used to have this recorded on a VHS tape and watched it sooo many times as a kid. She was such a beast.

It does look like Patrick!! He was sure getting an eyeful, wasn't he?

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OldFriends4Sale said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

1986

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1986: the year of Sheila's Party for which Le Grind, Bob George, and 2NigsUnited4WestComptond were recorded...

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

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1986: the year of Sheila's Party for which Le Grind, Bob George, and 2NigsUnited4WestComptond were recorded...

Right. But the culmination of the evolution I took it to her 1987 around the time the Black album was going to be released.. Wasn't really trying to be too technical about it.

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I will always include this one as a Black Album outtake...

Walkin' In Glory is an unreleased gospel track recorded on 7 December 1986 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (on the same day as Bob George). Engineer Susan Rogers said he may have recorded Walkin' In Glory that day "to compensate" for Bob George.

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A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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In addition, she sang backing vocals on several Prince songs and was the featured rapper on two Prince cuts: the hit single "Alphabet St." in 1988 --where Prince gave her a memorable introduction-- and "Cindy C," which was recorded in late 1987, but, not officially released until 1994 on The Black Album.

The Black Album was the first time Prince got me on tape recording. It was intense. I can't even go into that right now, because, it's too intense. The album didn't really have any production. It was spur of the moment. The Black Album was about personal things he was going through, which is why I don't want to discuss it.

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Cat said her line 'serve it up Frankie' was her nod to Frankie Knuckles(godfather of House music)

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Reply #29 posted 12/20/18 4:29pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I will always include this one as a Black Album outtake...

Walkin' In Glory is an unreleased gospel track recorded on 7 December 1986 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (on the same day as Bob George). Engineer Susan Rogers said he may have recorded Walkin' In Glory that day "to compensate" for Bob George.

-PrinceVault

that irish freak from ireland has this song

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