djThunderfunk said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:

No need for the hyperbole of "six months". They all went out of print too fast sure, but those that went to retail on major labels were available for a few years at least.

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In mint condition ? In 2005 Musicology was already out of print and couldn't be ordered. It has never been printed since 2004. The shipments in stores were so low, that even with the Grammy's where the album won 2 awards, the album couldn t crack the top 200 again ! . And you didn't answer the question...

Yes. Musicology was available in retail stores for several years. It was easily available in 2005. At least here in the U.S. it was.

RODSERLING said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I'm surprised U even said it sold at all.

Btw I don't joke about Prince's legacy. He left me here to protect it.

You have hard time to read and understand, right?

Don't start with me. I'm asking U nicely.

djThunderfunk said:

"If they really release the 23 albums unavailable next year, Prince will be a huge physical seller. "

but what does it mean, what does it change in your life that an artist sells music, physical or not?

will his music be or feel better in your ears?

i love Prince's music but seriously i don't give a fuck how many discs are sold, and the mount doesnt mean anything to me.

Explain to me what you like in the amout of sales, i've always been curious to know.

laforet99 said:

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:

Yes. Musicology was available in retail stores for several years. It was easily available in 2005. At least here in the U.S. it was.

In Europe it wasn't. It wasnt even included in Sony holiday 2004 catalogue at a little price, like every other albums. In the US, That was old shipments that had to be sold, since it sold only 49.000 copies between January 2005 and April 2016 (!). . It s like Emancipation was Available at some stores until 2014, but it was clearly old shipments printed around 1996/1997. . Maybe the shipments were bigger in stores at some point in 2005 and were sent to music clubs? . One thing is for sure, the album couldn t be ordered by February 2005 and wasn't so easily available, or else it would have cracked the top 200 again with the Grammy s hype. Just like 3121 wasn t produced anymore at the time the Superbowl performance came up. . I think that whenever Prince ended promoting an album and did everything he wanted to do with it, he made a call to stop produce the current album, to be more focused on the next one. Surely something superstitious. . I m amazed nobody here ever thought or wonder about the fact that a large part of his discography is out of print.

Well here in his home country it was available in stores or from Amazon, at retail price, for YEARS. So was 3121 which was easily available when the Superbowl performance happened. Sorry about Europe.

Even Rainbow Children, NEWS and One Nite Alone Live were available at retail for 2 or 3 years. They were out of stock faster than most.

RODSERLING said:

I was right : RAVE un2 is among the next batch of re releases on march, 8. . It is listed as 3 CDs though. Maybe it is in fact 3 vinyl discs...

listed where? i have 'rave...' on vinyl and it's only 2 discs. i wonder if 3 discs is going to include remixes?

RODSERLING said:

I was right : RAVE un2 is among the next batch of re releases on march, 8. . It is listed as 3 CDs though. Maybe it is in fact 3 vinyl discs...

A search brings up no info on any releases past those 3 already mentioned. Where did you see this?

embmmusic said:

RODSERLING said:

I was right : RAVE un2 is among the next batch of re releases on march, 8. . It is listed as 3 CDs though. Maybe it is in fact 3 vinyl discs...

A search brings up no info on any releases past those 3 already mentioned. Where did you see this?

Here is where you can see it:

https://www.cede.ch/de/music/?view=detail&branch_sub=0&branch=1&aid=16599114

xodusfr said:

embmmusic said:

A search brings up no info on any releases past those 3 already mentioned. Where did you see this?

Here is where you can see it:

https://www.cede.ch/de/music/?view=detail&branch_sub=0&branch=1&aid=16599114

More information here too :

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/princes_musicology_3121_and_planet_earth_given_vinyl_reissues

The Purple One's Musicology (2004), 3121 (2006) and Planet Earth (2007) will all arrive on CD and vinyl on February 8.

The reissues mark the first time all three albums have been pressed to wax, set to arrive on purple-coloured LPs that can be pre-ordered here. Each reissue will arrive as single CD packages, as well as 2-LP vinyl sets for Musicology and 3121. Planet Earth, however, will be reissued as a only a single vinyl LP.

As previously reported, additional titles set to get the reissue treatment as part of the campaign's first phase include 1995's The Gold Experience, 1996's Emancipation, 1999's Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic and 2001's The Rainbow Children.

Titles featured in the deal's second phase, set to begin in 2021, include 1979's Prince, 1980's Dirty Mind, 1981's Controversy, 1982's 1999, 1985's Around the World in a Day, 1987's Sign 'O' the Times, 1988's Lovesexy, 1991's Diamonds and Pearls and 1992's [Love Symbol].

Unless your a collector, the post 95 reissues dont really excite me that much, due to the fact it's clear they are not remastered or adding any deluxe features to it...

But the second batch is interesting becasue it was literally a year ago they just released remastered versions of Prince, ATWIAD, Sign O' The Times, Lovesexy... So maybe these will all get the deluxe treatment. Would be amazing to have his classic albums get a real deluxe treatment.

xodusfr said:

xodusfr said:

Here is where you can see it:

https://www.cede.ch/de/music/?view=detail&branch_sub=0&branch=1&aid=16599114

More information here too :

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/princes_musicology_3121_and_planet_earth_given_vinyl_reissues

The Purple One's Musicology (2004), 3121 (2006) and Planet Earth (2007) will all arrive on CD and vinyl on February 8.

The reissues mark the first time all three albums have been pressed to wax, set to arrive on purple-coloured LPs that can be pre-ordered here. Each reissue will arrive as single CD packages, as well as 2-LP vinyl sets for Musicology and 3121. Planet Earth, however, will be reissued as a only a single vinyl LP.

As previously reported, additional titles set to get the reissue treatment as part of the campaign's first phase include 1995's The Gold Experience, 1996's Emancipation, 1999's Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic and 2001's The Rainbow Children.

Titles featured in the deal's second phase, set to begin in 2021, include 1979's Prince, 1980's Dirty Mind, 1981's Controversy, 1982's 1999, 1985's Around the World in a Day, 1987's Sign 'O' the Times, 1988's Lovesexy, 1991's Diamonds and Pearls and 1992's [Love Symbol].

I can't BELIEVE Prince forgot the combination to THE VAULT! Therefore hadn't entered it in YEARS!!!!

djThunderfunk said:

feeluupp said:

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:

Well here in his home country it was available in stores or from Amazon, at retail price, for YEARS. So was 3121 which was easily available when the Superbowl performance happened. Sorry about Europe.

Even Rainbow Children, NEWS and One Nite Alone Live were available at retail for 2 or 3 years. They were out of stock faster than most.

Like I said 49.000 copies of Musicology sold in 12 years is not what one could call "easily available", unless as I suspect some shipments not counted by soundscan were sold through Colombia House. . Some albums such as Emancipation or Lotus Flower could reappear in some stores from time to time, but my point is that the labels stopped printed them after the promotion, for reasons not only illogical (the goal is to produce them to sell them to make money out of it) but that were never officially explained. . If there were more shipments in stores that weren t sold it would still be available at a normal price on some services such as Amazon, where the price of these albums reached fast summit beyond normal.

Being available to pick up at or order from retail stores at retail price IS EXACTLY what I would call "easily available". And as long as it was still available, why on earth would there have been a need to keep printing it? Again, sorrry about Eurpoe, but Musicolgy was around at retail price in the states for YEARS.

djThunderfunk said:

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said: Like I said 49.000 copies of Musicology sold in 12 years is not what one could call "easily available", unless as I suspect some shipments not counted by soundscan were sold through Colombia House. . Some albums such as Emancipation or Lotus Flower could reappear in some stores from time to time, but my point is that the labels stopped printed them after the promotion, for reasons not only illogical (the goal is to produce them to sell them to make money out of it) but that were never officially explained. . If there were more shipments in stores that weren t sold it would still be available at a normal price on some services such as Amazon, where the price of these albums reached fast summit beyond normal.

Being available to pick up at or order from retail stores at retail price IS EXACTLY what I would call "easily available". And as long as it was still available, why on earth would there have been a need to keep printing it? Again, sorrry about Eurpoe, but Musicolgy was around at retail price in the states for YEARS.

I bought the CD Digipak in April 2004 when it was released and the Vinyl in September 2004.

I eventually bought the Jewel Case version in October 2005 in my local record shop.

I certainly remember Musicology being available for quite a few years in shops - even if this was just a case of an old pressing taking years to sell.

I even remember stacks and stacks of the Crystal Ball being dicounted for ages as they were not selling at all.

darkroman said:

darkroman said:

djThunderfunk said:

Being available to pick up at or order from retail stores at retail price IS EXACTLY what I would call "easily available". And as long as it was still available, why on earth would there have been a need to keep printing it? Again, sorrry about Eurpoe, but Musicolgy was around at retail price in the states for YEARS.

I bought the CD Digipak in April 2004 when it was released and the Vinyl in September 2004.

I eventually bought the Jewel Case version in October 2005 in my local record shop.

I certainly remember Musicology being available for quite a few years in shops - even if this was just a case of an old pressing taking years to sell.

I even remember stacks and stacks of the Crystal Ball being dicounted for ages as they were not selling at all.

I ordered the 5 CD Crystall Ball through the website and somewhere around 2005 I bought the 4 CD jewel case version with booklet for €10 and they had stacks of these in a bargain bin in Netherlands, sadly not the round case 4 CD version because my case was cracked and replacing it for €10 would have been great. Musicology is still pretty easy found here. I saw a couple not to long ago at the Mediamarkt.

JorisE73 said:

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:

I ordered the 5 CD Crystall Ball through the website and somewhere around 2005 I bought the 4 CD jewel case version with booklet for €10 and they had stacks of these in a bargain bin in Netherlands, sadly not the round case 4 CD version because my case was cracked and replacing it for €10 would have been great. Musicology is still pretty easy found here. I saw a couple not to long ago at the Mediamarkt.

Musicology on mint condition in stores in 2018? Looks like science fiction, it s on amazon for a hundred bucks for years

No science fiction. Numerous stores in The Netherlands seem to have old boxes of CD's laying about.

For instance 2 years ago a fresh batch of unsold Gold Experience CD's were stocked at a music shop in Delft.
At Mediamarkt in Zoetermeer there we copies of Musicology and 3121 still stocked.

JorisE73 said:

Cater Vinyl Hipster Crowd? Most of us VHC have been collecting Vinyl long before you were itiching in your daddy's pants... 30, 40 years ago?

JorisE73 said:

luvsexy4all said:

why bother releasing this stuff WITHOUT bonus tracks ?

I think mostly to cater to that recent vinyl hipster crowd.

Pay attention closer to the lyrics to Fury and trust me I know the real story behind this song

ChocolateBox3121 said:

RODSERLING said:

3121 IS thé last great Prince album. It's maybe the only album since Lovesexy where every track is strong, there is not one filler in it. . I think it s the last time Prince achieved this degree of excellence in his music, as if he were 25 years old, and not 48. . It s fun, smart, groovy, musically accessible and eclectic. . Musicology is good too, Planet Earth is more lazy but is easily listenable too. Far better than most of its 90'release. [Edited 12/13/18 14:03pm]

If 3121 would have went like Prince planned it. It would have been & even MORE MEGA HIT! Too bad Universal wouldn't approve "Fury" being used as the video from SNL. Then Oprah turning down what would have been a second appearance to promote the project & new 3121 perfume on her then high rated show The Oprah Winfrey Show. Then of course being served papers from Mani right in the middle of it all. It was ALL bittersweet for Prince

Kobe said:

Cater Vinyl Hipster Crowd? Most of us VHC have been collecting Vinyl long before you were itiching in your daddy's pants... 30, 40 years ago?

JorisE73 said:

I think mostly to cater to that recent vinyl hipster crowd.

Oh please, 44 years here and grew up on vinyl and CD's.
The recent new vinyl buyers don't care about quality like vinyl masters pressed on vinyl or Digital masters pressed on digital media and only buy these crap quality CD-masters-pressed-on-vinyl releases to come over as interesting, pretentious hipsters.

Kobe said:

Pay attention closer to the lyrics to Fury and trust me I know the real story behind this song

ChocolateBox3121 said:

If 3121 would have went like Prince planned it. It would have been & even MORE MEGA HIT! Too bad Universal wouldn't approve "Fury" being used as the video from SNL. Then Oprah turning down what would have been a second appearance to promote the project & new 3121 perfume on her then high rated show The Oprah Winfrey Show. Then of course being served papers from Mani right in the middle of it all. It was ALL bittersweet for Prince

LIES!