Release of full-length concert video footage.

You could have gone ahead and put the word remastering in the threa title.

Really? Because Purple Rain remastered sounds so horrible I only played it once and will NEVER listen to it again. I'll take the original masters over that kind of brickwalled crap any day.

It has been discussed.
Look for the FLAC files from the 2007 (or 2003? I can never remember) Rhino vinyl remasters.
They're the shit. The only "Dirty Mind" I listen to is the "Homemade Deluxe Edition" one.
It's like adding (good) 3D and color (deeper blacks, shiny whites) when compared with the WB CD.
Same for "Controversy", an A/B test will reveal the butchering.

Hopefully these will serve as a sonic basis for the future. Let's elevate the level, it's not like P&M has been a demonstration
on how the analog sources are going to be mastered. Even Bernie was mad at what they did to "Wonderful Ass" (under his brand!)
and its rough grating hi-hat on PR Deluxe. Some bootlegs sound much, much better.
It's a curvy, round and full ass, not an edgy skinny one. Those riffs must walk and squirt.

On a good source of "Dirty Mind", you really hear the two very distinct kicks. Without a clic, man...
The Tele twangs like the mattress springs behind him: it's a skinny hungry leopard.
The synths sweat spunk all throughout. It takes no prisoners. It's "Uptown" ou la mort.
It's a sonic masterpiece. An autobiographical (and graphics it has) DIY fever ejaculated on an 8 track recorder. Quick as fuck.
Slow Love it ain't. It's the horny teens, Suga: no one lasts for long the very first time.

Yeah, go for them: it's like rediscovering the first emotions the album gave you.
It's that different. Those homemade masterings can handle 11. The official CDs simply can't.

djThunderfunk said:

Really? Because Purple Rain remastered sounds so horrible I only played it once and will NEVER listen to it again. I'll take the original masters over that kind of brickwalled crap any day.

Yeah? IDK I compared it to the HD Tracks version I had and decided that I could hear more details on the PR Deluxe remaster, so I kept that one. Now I don't have a proper stereo and only my laptop's sound card, so even if I have remarkably good computer speakers I guess what sounds better on my shit may not on a proper CD player and stereo.

bonatoc said:

It has been discussed.
Look for the FLAC files from the 2007 (or 2003? I can never remember) Rhino vinyl remasters.
They're the shit. The only "Dirty Mind" I listen to is the "Homemade Deluxe Edition" one.
It's like adding (good) 3D and color (deeper blacks, shiny whites) when compared with the WB CD.
Same for "Controversy", an A/B test will reveal the butchering.

Hopefully these will serve as a sonic basis for the future. Let's elevate the level, it's not like P&M has been a demonstration
on how the analog sources are going to be mastered. Even Bernie was mad at what they did to "Wonderful Ass" (under his brand!)
and its rough grating hi-hat on PR Deluxe. Some bootlegs sound much, much better.
It's a curvy, round and full ass, not an edgy skinny one. Those riffs must walk and squirt.

On a good source of "Dirty Mind", you really hear the two very distinct kicks. Without a clic, man...
The Tele twangs like the mattress springs behind him: it's a skinny hungry leopard.
The synths sweat spunk all throughout. It takes no prisoners. It's "Uptown" ou la mort.
It's a sonic masterpiece. An autobiographical (and graphics it has) DIY fever ejaculated on an 8 track recorder. Quick as fuck.
Slow Love it ain't. It's the horny teens, Suga: no one lasts for long the very first time.

Yeah, go for them: it's like rediscovering the first emotions the album gave you.
It's that different. Those homemade masterings can handle 11. The official CDs simply can't.

r those vinyl remasterings online or on cd?

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

Really? Because Purple Rain remastered sounds so horrible I only played it once and will NEVER listen to it again. I'll take the original masters over that kind of brickwalled crap any day.

Yeah? IDK I compared it to the HD Tracks version I had and decided that I could hear more details on the PR Deluxe remaster, so I kept that one. Now I don't have a proper stereo and only my laptop's sound card, so even if I have remarkably good computer speakers I guess what sounds better on my shit may not on a proper CD player and stereo.

Well, it does sound like it was mastered for laptops and phones, so that makes sense.

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

Yeah? IDK I compared it to the HD Tracks version I had and decided that I could hear more details on the PR Deluxe remaster, so I kept that one. Now I don't have a proper stereo and only my laptop's sound card, so even if I have remarkably good computer speakers I guess what sounds better on my shit may not on a proper CD player and stereo.

Well, it does sound like it was mastered for laptops and phones, so that makes sense.

This.
For the casual Bluetooth listening while taking a shower, it does the job.

Beware: what we consider "good" audio is most of the time audio that is made flattering by the manufacturer.
It takes quite a benchmarks articles reading to find proper equipment (linear response is expensive,
but there are some flattering devices that manage to enhance the sound properly) at the right price.

Example: TGE is already 'Woah' on a cheap system.
On a high-end system, it's massive.

rdhull said:

Gee, you don’t say.

The original vinyl sounds as great as it ever did, though.

bonatoc said:

djThunderfunk said:

Well, it does sound like it was mastered for laptops and phones, so that makes sense.

This.
For the casual Bluetooth listening while taking a shower, it does the job.

Beware: what we consider "good" audio is most of the time audio that is made flattering by the manufacturer.
It takes quite a benchmarks articles reading to find proper equipment (linear response is expensive,
but there are some flattering devices that manage to enhance the sound properly) at the right price.

Example: TGE is already 'Woah' on a cheap system.
On a high-end system, it's massive.

Thx guys for the explaination

Genesia said:

rdhull said:

Gee, you don’t say.

The original vinyl sounds as great as it ever did, though.

True. But they'd better be have taken care of.
At Grundman, they were killers when it came to the analog mastering of Prince.
The family JBLs couldn't be happier, with all those transients.


Speaking of HiFi, I just came across this (somewhat costly) app (10 days free trial),
it's coming for phones too. I must say I'm impressed,
it beats my own 30 band settings I use to compensate for my headphones curve
(there is no such thing as "flat response" headphones, even in 2018.
The physics involved aren't the same, you're too close to the inner ear:
therefore you cannot really achieve a flat response without it feeling weird.
Engineers compensate to restore the feeling you would get from a monitor).
Musicians may set a lower Age Adjust, or the high frequencies boost will be tiring over time.

Really, day and night even on the official videos.
I am in no way affiliated with these folks, but it is one hell of a product
if your headphones model is covered (272 models supported).

Now my 1MORE Triple Driver pair finally delivers (almost) like studio monitors.
The problem with Prince working and living in the studio, is that his recent works
need a friggin' high end studio with a Crown Amp and Genelecs.
That was his stereo. he pushed it to the limits (those sub-basses!).

If someone can give it a try and tell me I'm not dreaming.
Play with the Personalization settings. Turn down the Adjust Bass,
beware the flattering artefacts. Adjust the "Age" cursor for more or less brilliance.
The more volume you put, the younger you want to get, otherwise those highs will hiss.
It's a bit difficult on intra-auriculars, because the sound gets so good it makes you want so smile,
and then the headphones slide a little out of your ears.
It will make you want to pump up the volume, but beware, audio fatigue comes fast.
Resist the urge, start loud and go down a bit, Prince compresses his digital masters like a maniac anyways.
He always pushed the needles in the red, "The Breakdown" is not the first.

I'm benchmarking "Time", the age cursor is on 32 years old and I feel fine .
All that is digital ain't Gold. These compensation algorithms come close enough.
Bravo to the engineers. Their stuff is for pros first, good idea this consumer version.
I'm starting to think the price is fair. Hidden details appear when on and off testing.

[Edited 11/19/18 18:12pm]

luvsexy4all said:

bonatoc said:

It has been discussed.
Look for the FLAC files from the 2007 (or 2003? I can never remember) Rhino vinyl remasters.
They're the shit. The only "Dirty Mind" I listen to is the "Homemade Deluxe Edition" one.
It's like adding (good) 3D and color (deeper blacks, shiny whites) when compared with the WB CD.
Same for "Controversy", an A/B test will reveal the butchering.

Hopefully these will serve as a sonic basis for the future. Let's elevate the level, it's not like P&M has been a demonstration
on how the analog sources are going to be mastered. Even Bernie was mad at what they did to "Wonderful Ass" (under his brand!)
and its rough grating hi-hat on PR Deluxe. Some bootlegs sound much, much better.
It's a curvy, round and full ass, not an edgy skinny one. Those riffs must walk and squirt.

On a good source of "Dirty Mind", you really hear the two very distinct kicks. Without a clic, man...
The Tele twangs like the mattress springs behind him: it's a skinny hungry leopard.
The synths sweat spunk all throughout. It takes no prisoners. It's "Uptown" ou la mort.
It's a sonic masterpiece. An autobiographical (and graphics it has) DIY fever ejaculated on an 8 track recorder. Quick as fuck.
Slow Love it ain't. It's the horny teens, Suga: no one lasts for long the very first time.

Yeah, go for them: it's like rediscovering the first emotions the album gave you.
It's that different. Those homemade masterings can handle 11. The official CDs simply can't.

r those vinyl remasterings online or on cd?

unfortunately with mp3s and cellphone ear buds being the primary source of music for the deaf .. your modern stereo is likely a pile of shit meant to enhance compressed frequencies designed for ear bud speakers ... you need a stereo designed to playback full spectrum analog audio .. the real shit ... i have tried modern equipment and i agree that it makes older music sound bad ... unfortunately remastering is the worst offender of all ... again .. the remaster tries to compensate for the frequencies not represented by the compressed audio and modern crappy equipment ... i find all remasters tend to detract from the purity of the original sound .. often making it tubby to compensate for earbuds and also overly trebly again due to ear bud speakers ...

i am hoping there is an unmastered movement to restore and reissue all these butchered remasters to their original uncompressed and unfuckwitable glory .. unfortunately the music industry does not want you to hear real music as it should be heard .. they want you on their bubblegum corporate crack music and nothing else ... so they are ruining all the good music ... controversy is an outstanding album to crank up as is on some good speakers ... it pops ... its your stereo ... they add too much bass to those now to make up for the loss of bass in the mp3 ... makes everything sound tubby or covered by pillows

london calling is best sounding album ever

luvsexy4all said:

london calling is best sounding album ever

then along came strait to hell