PeteSilas said:

Being interesting or having charisma or what some might call a “lure” can be because of many reasons.
Being charming however is very manipulative.

purplethunder3121 said:

Misslink88 said:

The most interesting thing to me was how many times I read "I've never reacted this way before" when people found out he was gone. If we're all connected as a collective somehow, it's not surprising that an energy that strong would be felt (as missing) and I think it's an energy he fed and cultivated from within. We're all capable of it but most people are too distracted by outside events to fully tune in.

Well, let's face it, most of us can't afford that luxury...

Going inside isn't a luxury. It's a skill, like any other, that requires time and practice. Everyone can afford at least 5 minutes a day to tune into themselves to start off with.

anangellooksdown said:

PeteSilas said:

people are quick to throw labels, Prince was an asshole in his younger years but he seemed to really outgrow it. charisma seems to be a gift apart from benevolence or evil.

Being interesting or having charisma or what some might call a “lure” can be because of many reasons. Being charming however is very manipulative.

people will abuse it, especially in this power based society we live in, most people are as manipulative as they can get away with, sometimes that may only be one person who they have wrapped around their fingers. but your point that charisma can be misused i correct.

purplefam99 said:

You're welcome. It's by Malcolm Gladwell. It's a great read and very informative.

Misslink88 said:

Yes! And it’s a necessity.

PeteSilas said:

And that’s when it can start becoming narcissistic. But narcissists are a dime a dozen today.

anangellooksdown said:

PeteSilas said:

people will abuse it, especially in this power based society we live in, most people are as manipulative as they can get away with, sometimes that may only be one person who they have wrapped around their fingers. but your point that charisma can be misused i correct.

And that’s when it can start becoming narcissistic. But narcissists are a dime a dozen today.

yes they are, our culture breeds it, most of it' a front but it's still a pain in the ass to deal with even when it's just an affect.

Strawberrylova123 said:

HE was penetrating. Stop twisting my words.

CatB said:

What?? Calm down i wasn't even trying to interpret your words.

Strawberrylova123 said:

Yeah that's why you quoted me

CatB said:

It was a continuation of your quote,
You said he was penetrating i said his eyes was penetrating. I wasn't trying to interpret your words let alone twist your words

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Sociopath Nextdoor is a good book.
I think he did have those tendencies though.
Especially coming out that emotionally traumatic childhood/family life.
The eyes the eyes, definately are the doorway to the soul of the person.

It could be that he had some narcissistic tendencies, not sure if it was sociopathy, sociopaths tend to really cause other people damage and have dangerous reactions to things like being rejected. Narcissists are people who can also be nasty in things like slandering you and usually need all people to like and love them and for everyone to see them a certain way. Everything they do is for love and approval. He might’ve had some of that but I don’t think he got really nasty. It could also be that he just wanted to be loved. Re: not looking into his eyes, I think that was mostly a myth. [Edited 11/19/18 15:20pm] [Edited 11/19/18 15:27pm]

I believe he had those tendencies.

He wasn't heavy in it but it was there. You saw it in how he dealt with people in his camp, especially in the early period. stories of how he dealt with his proteges, band members engineers and techs

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sociopaths are very different from psychopaths

and I think a lot of people have those tendencies who are not dangerous.

Maybe can be emotionally dangerous

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And I'm looking at how a lot of fans 'react' since he passed... that is a whole different extension.

OldFriends4Sale said:

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said: It could be that he had some narcissistic tendencies, not sure if it was sociopathy, sociopaths tend to really cause other people damage and have dangerous reactions to things like being rejected. Narcissists are people who can also be nasty in things like slandering you and usually need all people to like and love them and for everyone to see them a certain way. Everything they do is for love and approval. He might’ve had some of that but I don’t think he got really nasty. It could also be that he just wanted to be loved. Re: not looking into his eyes, I think that was mostly a myth. [Edited 11/19/18 15:20pm] [Edited 11/19/18 15:27pm]

I believe he had those tendencies.

He wasn't heavy in it but it was there. You saw it in how he dealt with people in his camp, especially in the early period. stories of how he dealt with his proteges, band members engineers and techs

.

sociopaths are very different from psychopaths

and I think a lot of people have those tendencies who are not dangerous.

Maybe can be emotionally dangerous

.

And I'm looking at how a lot of fans 'react' since he passed... that is a whole different extension.

Trying to understand. Are you thinking of those who blame people in the camp for P's struggles with his health? Something completely different?

rednblue said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I believe he had those tendencies.

He wasn't heavy in it but it was there. You saw it in how he dealt with people in his camp, especially in the early period. stories of how he dealt with his proteges, band members engineers and techs

.

sociopaths are very different from psychopaths

and I think a lot of people have those tendencies who are not dangerous.

Maybe can be emotionally dangerous

.

And I'm looking at how a lot of fans 'react' since he passed... that is a whole different extension.

Trying to understand. Are you thinking of those who blame people in the camp for P's struggles with his health? Something completely different?

No, the level of nastiness toward people, whether it is other fans or female associates. People have always had their favorite 'Prince lady' but it went crazy, and you saw it even from the actually 'associate' women. People acting like they need to lawyer up for Prince.

OldFriends4Sale said:

rednblue said:

Trying to understand. Are you thinking of those who blame people in the camp for P's struggles with his health? Something completely different?

No, the level of nastiness toward people, whether it is other fans or female associates. People have always had their favorite 'Prince lady' but it went crazy, and you saw it even from the actually 'associate' women. People acting like they need to lawyer up for Prince.

Thanks! This brings thoughts back to my earlier comment re: deeply feeling artist. Goes together with P's power to bring out deep/strong feels in fans. Will be the first to admit that P and his music are things I'm obsessive and passionate about.

Came up in a conversation just the other day. Was telling someone that if I, having never met the man, am this obsessed and passionate...I can't even imagine what it must have been like for those in his camp.

rednblue said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No, the level of nastiness toward people, whether it is other fans or female associates. People have always had their favorite 'Prince lady' but it went crazy, and you saw it even from the actually 'associate' women. People acting like they need to lawyer up for Prince.

Thanks! This brings thoughts back to my earlier comment re: deeply feeling artist. Goes together with P's power to bring out deep/strong feels in fans. Will be the first to admit that P and his music are things I'm obsessive and passionate about.

Came up in a conversation just the other day. Was telling someone that if I, having never met the man, am this obsessed and passionate...I can't even imagine what it must have been like for those in his camp.

Oh Prince was a culture for me. I'm very passionate about it all. Just not the divisive stuff and people who present themselves as fans who pigeonhole Prince into place he was not.

OldFriends4Sale said:

rednblue said:

Thanks! This brings thoughts back to my earlier comment re: deeply feeling artist. Goes together with P's power to bring out deep/strong feels in fans. Will be the first to admit that P and his music are things I'm obsessive and passionate about.

Came up in a conversation just the other day. Was telling someone that if I, having never met the man, am this obsessed and passionate...I can't even imagine what it must have been like for those in his camp.

Oh Prince was a culture for me. I'm very passionate about it all. Just not the divisive stuff and people who present themselves as fans who pigeonhole Prince into place he was not.

Yeah. Some of this ends up in really dark places. And the vitriol is just incredible.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Emotionally dangerous is dangerous. That is a very interesting observation, how people are acting crazy after his passing


I think Prince had a very cruel side , but very much wanted acceptance/love. I think alot of his ladies had their own issues too.

I will say Apollonia used to be my favorite Prince girl but I don't know about her anymore.

Krystalkisses said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I believe he had those tendencies.

He wasn't heavy in it but it was there. You saw it in how he dealt with people in his camp, especially in the early period. stories of how he dealt with his proteges, band members engineers and techs

.

sociopaths are very different from psychopaths

and I think a lot of people have those tendencies who are not dangerous.

Maybe can be emotionally dangerous

.

And I'm looking at how a lot of fans 'react' since he passed... that is a whole different extension.

Emotionally dangerous is dangerous. That is a very interesting observation, how people are acting crazy after his passing I think Prince had a very cruel side , but very much wanted acceptance/love. I think alot of his ladies had their own issues too. I will say Apollonia used to be my favorite Prince girl but I don't know about her anymore.

I meant not violent in that sentence

OldFriends4Sale said:

rednblue said:

Thanks! This brings thoughts back to my earlier comment re: deeply feeling artist. Goes together with P's power to bring out deep/strong feels in fans. Will be the first to admit that P and his music are things I'm obsessive and passionate about.

Came up in a conversation just the other day. Was telling someone that if I, having never met the man, am this obsessed and passionate...I can't even imagine what it must have been like for those in his camp.

Oh Prince was a culture for me. I'm very passionate about it all. Just not the divisive stuff and people who present themselves as fans who pigeonhole Prince into place he was not.

THAT IS His REAL LEGACY..

according to me

and maybe even you...

luvsexy4all said:

mind /computer interface system to read minds

NOT kidding....were any of his "circle" aware of this??

I believe Prince was incredibly shy always, deep down. When people look into a shy person's eyes, especially when you are shorter than most people, it can be very intimidating. P was constantly being critiqued and analysed. If you really study his voice and body language in interviews, you can see he is truly nervous. It would have been very invasive for him to be so 'stared at' constantly when seen in public and not performing. As a shy personality but accessible performer, there is an opportunity for you to really 'give' without your immediate personal space being invaded. The physical barrier between you and the audience (stage and audience seating) is like your safety net, yet you give them all from the bottom of your heart and are totally exposed yet protected at the same time. It is very complex. Suffice to say, the nausea before performances can be crippling for some people.

I do not believe Prince was manipulative or a sociopath.

The beauty we see in his eyes is his vulnerability, the unusual, yet beguiling behaviour is the arresting, yet reserved and spiritually 'ascended' genius trying to get by in a world maybe not quite ready for him.

Just my opinion based on personal experience and studying way too many of his videos

ballerinaL said:

I believe Prince was incredibly shy always, deep down. When people look into a shy person's eyes, especially when you are shorter than most people, it can be very intimidating. P was constantly being critiqued and analysed. If you really study his voice and body language in interviews, you can see he is truly nervous. It would have been very invasive for him to be so 'stared at' constantly when seen in public and not performing. As a shy personality but accessible performer, there is an opportunity for you to really 'give' without your immediate personal space being invaded. The physical barrier between you and the audience (stage and audience seating) is like your safety net, yet you give them all from the bottom of your heart and are totally exposed yet protected at the same time. It is very complex. Suffice to say, the nausea before performances can be crippling for some people.

I do not believe Prince was manipulative or a sociopath.

The beauty we see in his eyes is his vulnerability, the unusual, yet beguiling behaviour is the arresting, yet reserved and spiritually 'ascended' genius trying to get by in a world maybe not quite ready for him.

Just my opinion based on personal experience and studying way too many of his videos

Thank you...........................

Lovejunky said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Oh Prince was a culture for me. I'm very passionate about it all. Just not the divisive stuff and people who present themselves as fans who pigeonhole Prince into place he was not.

THAT IS His REAL LEGACY..

according to me

and maybe even you...

Yes, I totally agree, we are Uptown!!

ballerinaL said:

I believe Prince was incredibly shy always, deep down. When people look into a shy person's eyes, especially when you are shorter than most people, it can be very intimidating. P was constantly being critiqued and analysed. If you really study his voice and body language in interviews, you can see he is truly nervous. It would have been very invasive for him to be so 'stared at' constantly when seen in public and not performing. As a shy personality but accessible performer, there is an opportunity for you to really 'give' without your immediate personal space being invaded. The physical barrier between you and the audience (stage and audience seating) is like your safety net, yet you give them all from the bottom of your heart and are totally exposed yet protected at the same time. It is very complex. Suffice to say, the nausea before performances can be crippling for some people.

I do not believe Prince was manipulative or a sociopath.

The beauty we see in his eyes is his vulnerability, the unusual, yet beguiling behaviour is the arresting, yet reserved and spiritually 'ascended' genius trying to get by in a world maybe not quite ready for him.

Just my opinion based on personal experience and studying way too many of his videos

pretty good.

Lovejunky said:

Yes this is certainly a valid insight. Thanks!

databank said:

i used to think you were pretty sharp... but its increasing obvious that you're an arrogant, mean spirited, cut and paste clown... anything/anyone that doesnt agree or conform with you or your sacred collection of princevault rhetoric, becomes a tsrget of your corny barbs...get over youself ...

RJOrion said:

databank said:

According to Tyka it was orange.

Prince could even turn half his face white and half his hair green, as shown in the Partyman music video. I don't know how he did it but that's pretty awesome... I wish I could do that.

i used to think you were pretty sharp... but its increasing obvious that you're an arrogant, mean spirited, cut and paste clown... anything/anyone that doesnt agree or conform with you or your sacred collection of princevault rhetoric, becomes a tsrget of your corny barbs...get over youself ...

.

And what need is there for you to be incredibly rude like this?

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What else was I supposed to answer to a thread about Prince having telepathic powers?

Is the earth flat?

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Even if there's such a thing as telepathy, and unlikely as it seems I have to say IDK, maybe there's such a thing. But even so, fans going online to hallucinate about their favorite artist conveniently having telepathic powers is utterly absurd. For all I know the OP was trolling and the joke's on you.

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Absurd threads call for absurd replies, and I kindly obliged. I cracked a joke, which is quite friendly considering the shitstorm the OP was calling upon themselves.

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So IDK why you're being rude like that, calling people names and all. Pull yourself together. And of course I'm sharp (and pretty, too)...

I don’t see any difference between this thread and the “what if” thread.
They are both just as reasonably fun and ridiculous “what if” scenarios.