jdcxc said:

rusty1 said:

100% agree.. That tour would've been kick ass. On top of that, the album should've had 5 top 10 hits or more.. Also the wrong second single [Edited 11/15/18 11:01am]

Yes!...with Madhouse as openers.

and not being able to dedicate a real effort to Madhouse
I think there was a lot of potential there as it was for all those 1980s proteges

rdhull said:

james said:

Batman.

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There's parts of the album that I like, but they're the parts of the album that it would have been without Batman!

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I also blame Batman for his fixation with making another film, leading to Graffiti Bridge and his focus on making hits and chasing chart success.

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I wonder how Rave, or whatever that album turned into, would have sounded. How working with Mavis Staples could have been included. And how that all could have evolved.

[Edited 11/16/18 8:00am]

With or without Batman he was gonna do GB. Batman ws also a hit..that he needed. And even still, its not like GB was a careeer killer.

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Would he have? Was GB already in the works or was it hanging around the Batman set that gave him the idea?

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I'm not sure of the timeline on that, but seems likely that working on one film made him hungry to make one of his own.

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Batman was a hit, and that's kind of my point. It made him more focused on chart success, and measuring himself against that.

james said:

rdhull said:

With or without Batman he was gonna do GB. Batman ws also a hit..that he needed. And even still, its not like GB was a careeer killer.

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Would he have? Was GB already in the works or was it hanging around the Batman set that gave him the idea?

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I'm not sure of the timeline on that, but seems likely that working on one film made him hungry to make one of his own.

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Batman was a hit, and that's kind of my point. It made him more focused on chart success, and measuring himself against that.

Dude he had that Coco Boys shit, The Dawn always in his head. He was enamored with Ingrid from ecstasy days. He was always thinking of the cinematic. Batman was a soundtrack. Even still, the soundtrack was a hit and GB was not a ding in his career even if Batman lead to GB as I already stated. Geezus.

james said:

rdhull said:

With or without Batman he was gonna do GB. Batman ws also a hit..that he needed. And even still, its not like GB was a careeer killer.

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Would he have? Was GB already in the works or was it hanging around the Batman set that gave him the idea?

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I'm not sure of the timeline on that, but seems likely that working on one film made him hungry to make one of his own.

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Batman was a hit, and that's kind of my point. It made him more focused on chart success, and measuring himself against that.

Yes he was already working on music for the movie in 1987. He was already dealing with Madonna in 1987 about the movie.

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If the 1986 split didn't happen we might have gotten When The Dawn of the Morning Comes instead of Graffiti Bridge

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I still would have loved the pre-GB Time band film that was in the works.

batman stalled his creative career..even though he was still creating good stuff

luvsexy4all said:

batman stalled his creative career..even though he was still creating good stuff

"lies!"-(c) ChocolateBox

How is a number one hit album connected to at the time, the highest grossing debut, a stall in his career.

Yall are just trollng now, throwin anything on the wall thinking it will stick.

rdhull said:

luvsexy4all said:

batman stalled his creative career..even though he was still creating good stuff

"lies!"-(c) ChocolateBox

How is a number one hit album connected to at the time, the highest grossing debut, a stall in his career.

Yall are just trollng now, throwin anything on the wall thinking it will stick.

because of what he wouldve released instead

luvsexy4all said:

rdhull said:

"lies!"-(c) ChocolateBox

How is a number one hit album connected to at the time, the highest grossing debut, a stall in his career.

Yall are just trollng now, throwin anything on the wall thinking it will stick.

because of what he wouldve released instead

1.What he would have released would not be as successful as the Batman soundtrack. 1.
2.The Batman soundtrack was NOT his biggst miscalculation

3.matter if he would have released 10 of the most ought after unreleased songs instead because it wouldnt have done the numbers Batman did and nobody but 10k of his die hards would have given a fuck, hence his cache of the songs still being unreleased hasnt done anything except expand his myth and want from the fans.

4.The End

OldFriends4Sale said:

james said:

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Would he have? Was GB already in the works or was it hanging around the Batman set that gave him the idea?

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I'm not sure of the timeline on that, but seems likely that working on one film made him hungry to make one of his own.

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Batman was a hit, and that's kind of my point. It made him more focused on chart success, and measuring himself against that.

Yes he was already working on music for the movie in 1987. He was already dealing with Madonna in 1987 about the movie.

YES/YEP

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If the 1986 split didn't happen we might have gotten When The Dawn of the Morning Comes instead of Graffiti Bridge

And trust me, The Dawn etc would end up just as messy/silly as GB was.

His biggest mistake of his career I think was the period in which he decided to sell his music only online and not to support it with Lp / cd (now I do not remember exactly the year)

As for his personal error ... it is not for me to judge him

He's always been one of my favorite singers and I've always watched his music without getting involved in his private life any more than a fan should even if it's always been very fascinating to me.

P.Š. I also agree on most of the things you said.

[Edited 11/16/18 14:26pm]

Wow, for a guy who made so many mistakes I'd say he did all right.

herb4 said:

Wow, for a guy who made so many mistakes I'd say he did all right.

Bottom-line!

CatB said:

databank said:

CatB said:

databank said:

Artistically/career-wise, Carmen Electra and thinking that this album could be a hit of any kind.

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I do not feel it's my place to comment his personnal/private life and choices.

Didn't you forget something in your answer... *hint hint*

Carmen Electra + 7:41 + 3 = C47m3n 313ctr4?

I'm not good with numerology

Something about the color of his sweater

anangellooksdown said:

CatB said:

Something about the color of his sweater

I appears I’m not the only one you feel the need to pull down these days. Interesting.

? It's an inside joke. Sorry you don't get it angel. Nobody was pulling anybody down.

Which alias are you going to use to attack Cat next?

PennyPurple said:

anangellooksdown said:

CatB said: I appears I’m not the only one you feel the need to pull down these days. Interesting.

? It's an inside joke. Sorry you don't get it angel. Nobody was pulling anybody down.

Which alias are you going to use to attack Cat next?

Cause with angellooksdown, sweetheartbaby and braidedmagic he'd already have three. Her next alias could join.

Seriously, can anyone who can read be that limited not to get that inside joke. Probably all the ghost sex. I wonder if she has realized yet that she can't go back to LSA with her known aliases as they would rip her apart. Uncle Jack don't like being even more confused No wonder with all his own various fake personas... even faking entire book excerpts these days...

But yeah, it was only a question of time until angel would land in a thread about miscalculations...

peggyon said:

bonatoc said:

It's absurd to think he was self-medicating on opioids right from the start.
There must be a first doctor who wrote the first prescription. It's a history.
And we know the fatal Fentanyl pill was just one 4Chan little pill.
Let's not go through what we know already.

Addiction happens to you, like the plague. It's not a calculation or a miscalculation.
Claiming otherwise means some didn't study the opioids epidemic long enough
to know what they are talking about.

To take care of oneself can hardly be interpreted as malls... miscul... masculcall... oh, forget it.
There's little calculus when it comes to survival.

It is not absurd. Prince most likely got his meds, from the start, from a drug dealer. There is no opiate prescription history. Later, he would ask his employees to ask their docs to write scripts.

He lost some employees as a result.

He was street-smart.

Yessir

funksterr said:

peggyon said:

It is not absurd. Prince most likely got his meds, from the start, from a drug dealer. There is no opiate prescription history. Later, he would ask his employees to ask their docs to write scripts.

He lost some employees as a result.

He was street-smart.

Yessir

We're both speculating.
Myself I doubt his first contact with painkillers
was after Waiting For His Man.

jdcxc said:

rusty1 said:

100% agree.. That tour would've been kick ass. On top of that, the album should've had 5 top 10 hits or more.. Also the wrong second single [Edited 11/15/18 11:01am]

Yes!...with Madhouse as openers.

It's really a shame, and we can blame Warner for that.
The whole refusal of five discs when Columbia obliged Bruce.

By the SOTT Tour, he was fed up with the songs, the situation, the tour accident, barely recovering from Susannah,
the material was already a year old or more, and then depression hit. I think exhaustion.
Sheila was a musical soulmate, not his future wife.

Not to brag again about being in the front row, but I saw Prince performing a full SOTT Tour Concert from up close.
The energy delivered was incredible. You could touch his aura that close. Or rather, it bumped into yours.
The movie barely describes it. There was this dutch TV special, I remember also an italian one, every major TV network had been allowed
to film "Play In The Sunshine" from the show the night before (Prince probably proof-checked it first, like "Sister" for the Lovesexy Tour),
but with just one camera. So all you had were zoom-ins and zoom-outs in VHS quality.
and of course the movie came, and it's a perfect postcard to keep as a souvenir.

But I saw sweat of drops falling. His eyes, his look.
You can't bullshit, these eyes cut right through you, in a second.
The thing he does in Housequake, the Cat chasing, I saw it was real
like Saint Thomas putting its finger in The Big Bang: SKipper was real. It's one thing to be in awe of clips, posters, stills,
sleeves, his upbringing, but it's an entirely different thing to smell him in a cloud of vapor perforated by the fires burning Babylon in ruins,
while he waves the Peach Angel over black leather, spitting black ink all over peach souls. We drank it all.
The fake Lennon glasses. The Cat Stevens gathering. James at 11.
" and Jimi at 12!", I can hear him say. Careful or I'll smash those glasses of yours.

To realize these were actual people doing these crazy things in the moment was a confirmation.
We loved the band. We were nuts about Sheila playing the drums, we've been expecting it since 1985.
It's truly a crime to have depriven the movie audience from the whole concert. Cat was a sight to behold.
What about "Girls And Boys", "Kiss", "Let's Go Crazy" and "Purple Rain"?
All we have are short glances in the intro of "U Got The Look".
These professional videotapes must be somewhere, one hopes safe under Iron.

SOTT Live? A total shock. The movie is just pictures taken. The fog machines have that smell, you know...
and we all breathed a lot in that night. Makes me wonder how much of that shit he inhaled through the years.
All other pop stars were a disappointment live after him.
He only takes a pause during Sheila's solo. That's it. Same timing as a soccer game. The movie doesn't show the sweat.
I was already hooked, but to see him in the flesh at the apex of his melting pot utopian musical world,
it suddenly felt like this. There were ways to mash up all the musics you loved, making history a paste thick enough
you can't take or tell the sources apart. (That battle for Prince, I don't get it, given his art is the exact opposite.
It's like denying a black man being capable to build one of the strongest cultural bridges into the black — "Tricky me boy? — Our World."
Culture knows better. All that supremacizes ain't White. Myself I'm no white. I'm a Peach.)

Well, I mean, years touring without sleeping, the albums, the aftershows, the movies, the studio sessions,
supervising the Paisley Park Studios opening (it was intended as a commercial facility)...
Flesh and blood amade, warned old friends.

Add to 1987 all that came before, and consider he never stopped, in fact 1986 is arguably his most prolific year.
Sales were not an encouragement. I think he was truly hurt by The Joshua Tree winning Album Of The Year.
SOTT was Album of The Year in all musical magazines, but not in the stadiums of America, where Bon Jovi was doing their thing.
SOTT was a jazzman across Europe, I think he saw GB as the only thing he could give the the US public.
A SOTT Tour would have flopped like Lovesexy, except maybe for a short Hit'n'Run tour on both coasts.
GB is Lovesexy superimposed on Purple Rain, it makes no sense. It is clearly the result of someone
not having enough third eye on what he's doing. Work became a retreat, a (bat)cave.

The. Man. Never. Took. A. Day. Off.
That changes pretty much everything and it easily explains any kind of miscalculation that have happened,
I think after a few months I would have gone like most of the collaborators, like most everyone, exhausted.
Not Prince. OK, Kim is gone, but the money has already been invested, let's go through this razzie movie. That's balls.

The evolution in between Bearded Paula Abdul remixing 80's Prince bootlegs on 64 SSL channels with flying faders,
and the Curly Elvis biting pearls and writing diamonds on the Cloud turned Canary remains a mistery to me.
Did Mavis and Sinead (Gravity my ass) and Kate brought him back from the kinda dead?
Finally at peace with Susannah gone?

Like ""Kiss", Cream" must have been a blues originally.
That's the self-coaching of hard times,
whistled like nothing happened, in a major chord.
Like Bolan hidden under Mascara, the tragi-comedy of it all.

The moment he admits Money Don't Matter Tonight, heaven refills the safe.
He may have miscalculated from time to time,
but he sure was back on his heels in no time.
Every time.

[Edited 11/17/18 8:07am]

Biggest miscalculation?

Not suing to shut this piehole down when he sent out the C&D letters.

anangellooksdown said:

Just listen to the way you talk. Maybe your long history since 2016 on Lipstick Alley - with three different aliases - hasn’t helped? And you’re judging ME? The “color orange” posts are not an “inside joke”. Your desire to form an imaginary clique with some people excluded is a—hole behavior. I hate that. It’s immature, and it shows insecurity. I thought you weren’t going to respond to me again because you are so “centered” in “knowing who you are”? This said on an Assoc Artists thread the other day when you popped up out of nowhere to cut me down, lying pathologically, when we were all having a loving discussion there? Maybe you were angry that we were getting along? Speaking of Lipstick Alley, a place YOU were sent packing from, reveals some of these quotes from today: “CatB is being a real bitch over on the org, I’m beginning not to like her (or else she’s schizophrenic?) She invited me to her FB page and I had to bail...” “PennyPurple is over here somewhere too and we know how grouchy she’s been over there on the org”. “I thought Catb had affair with Prince back in 1996 when he was an expectant father?” “I don’t understand why CatB is so vicious over on the org...has nothing to do with her.” “CatB may very well have her issues, I don’t remember, and I don’t care, what was supposedly going on with her.” “CatB said [on the Org to Angel] the only reason to have more than one font is just to mess with people. Makes me wonder why she was CatB, Princecat, and AlleyPuss [on LSA]. Maybe because she likes messing with people? “I’ve heard some weird stuff about her, related to a certain rocker and her level of fanaticism to him.” “I have never wanted to bring these issues to public but it seems I have no option. CatB...” [This poster continues with a shocking story which I will not repeat. She says, “She was a stalker from hell”.] EYE am OBVIOUSLY not your problem. Eye will not drown with you. I made a nice amends to Andy Allo the other day and I meant it. You did not like that. You can either grow with me, CatB, or not. The choice is yours. But you will find that people are pretty forgiving around here if you try. Now eye am done with this subject. Good day.

Angel, WTH is the matter with you. The color orange posts are a joke. You just wasn't clued into it.


And....might want to watch LSA again, because it looks like charges may be filed against you for stalking and threatening a poster.

YOU did this ALL! YOU went over to LSA and in your own words just to stir shit up. YOU brought this all upon yourself. YOU are the one with 3 different names. YOU did this.

LSA is a vile, vile place. You went over there to play with them, and now you are getting it back from them. You know Jack is nothing but a troll who makes up lies. LSA is nothing but a pure gossip site, where they don't deal in facts.

And let's not forget how you never met Prince but you are having sex with his ghost.

Stop bringing YOUR LSA shite over here. It's a nasty site with members who have been banned from the Org, because they are vile.

what the hell? yall crazy lol

rdhull said:

what the hell? yall crazy lol

Sheesh, all over Tyka said his favorite color was orange.

anangellooksdown said:

CatB said:

Cause with angellooksdown, sweetheartbaby and braidedmagic he'd already have three. Her next alias could join.

Seriously, can anyone who can read be that limited not to get that inside joke. Probably all the ghost sex. I wonder if she has realized yet that she can't go back to LSA with her known aliases as they would rip her apart. Uncle Jack don't like being even more confused No wonder with all his own various fake personas... even faking entire book excerpts these days...

But yeah, it was only a question of time until angel would land in a thread about miscalculations...

Just listen to the way you talk. Maybe your long history since 2016 on Lipstick Alley - with three different aliases - hasn’t helped? And you’re judging ME? The “color orange” posts are not an “inside joke”. Your desire to form an imaginary clique with some people excluded is a—hole behavior. I hate that. It’s immature, and it shows insecurity. I thought you weren’t going to respond to me again because you are so “centered” in “knowing who you are”? This said on an Assoc Artists thread the other day when you popped up out of nowhere to cut me down, lying pathologically, when we were all having a loving discussion there? Maybe you were angry that we were getting along? Speaking of Lipstick Alley, a place YOU were sent packing from, reveals some of these quotes from today: “CatB is being a real bitch over on the org, I’m beginning not to like her (or else she’s schizophrenic?) She invited me to her FB page and I had to bail...” “PennyPurple is over here somewhere too and we know how grouchy she’s been over there on the org”. “I thought Catb had affair with Prince back in 1996 when he was an expectant father?” “I don’t understand why CatB is so vicious over on the org...has nothing to do with her.” “CatB may very well have her issues, I don’t remember, and I don’t care, what was supposedly going on with her.” “CatB said [on the Org to Angel] the only reason to have more than one font is just to mess with people. Makes me wonder why she was CatB, Princecat, and AlleyPuss [on LSA]. Maybe because she likes messing with people? “I’ve heard some weird stuff about her, related to a certain rocker and her level of fanaticism to him.” “I have never wanted to bring these issues to public but it seems I have no option. CatB...” [This poster continues with a shocking story which I will not repeat. She says, “She was a stalker from hell”.] EYE am OBVIOUSLY not your problem. Eye will not drown with you. I made a nice amends to Andy Allo the other day and I meant it. You did not like that. You can either grow with me, CatB, or not. The choice is yours. But you will find that people are pretty forgiving around here if you try. Now eye am done with this subject. Good day.

LOL Eye? What's this now, trying to be on a stage with Prince? Are you possessed by him from all the ghost sex?

How many more times do you want to be "done" only to come back and make an idiot of yourself again? You may want to look up the recent posts by the member named databank. They started this little inside joke that some of us have adopted - and all in good fun. Fun - do you know what that is?

As for LSA, again, it is a gossip forum. A gossip forum lives off gossip, of inventions and sensation. It brings out the worst in people, hence why I left after only a short time in 2016. Your paranoia and your guilty conscience are the source of your fear that I might have several user names. Your constant attempts to deflect is not only weak, it's also not working as you - only you - have several user names on both forums (and even admitted that you did it to "have fun with them"!). I have only one user name which even contains my real name. I have nothing to hide. Unlike you.

That user named Susu1976/stch/Susanna/Thylane/... broke her own neck today by posting that over the top nonsense. In that post she included half of the stories she told me in her org notes and at this point no one believes her anymore. She acted out of blind rage, thus failing to think. Otherwise she must've at least assumed that I took screenshots of not only her post today (which she edited several times, by the way - in her first version she didn't even mention me) but also of the org notes and the notes from her as Thylane. I have given warnings many times here, not making it a secret that I come from a lawyers family and learned very early to always keep copies for documentation.

She, on the other hand, has nothing. She has no records for the claims she makes, like my being in the places she names, that I changed my looks to "copy" a musician's girlfriend (according to google that girlfriend has black hair, I'm blonde and thanks to my various photos out there that people like Jacksplat have published - without owning the copyright - everyone can see this). Yesterday they said I look "just like a young Jill Jones, today it is that other chick - make up your mind, people... To claim that I was in jail in Helsinki is not only libel with which she turned herself in but also sprung from the fantasy of someone who obviously lives in some form of fictional world. It sounds like something out of a 1930's spy novel

Let me say it again very clearly - someone who has no records, no proof but makes claims about someone they do not know is either very stupid or mentally ill. And after all that other members have told me, it is the latter.

It is also strange that she claims to be from Finland but constantly talks about having reported you (and now me) to the police in Dallas LOL

Really, anyone who takes anything she utters seriously - who takes anything that gets posted on LSA seriously - cannot be helped.

It's at best amusing. I can't wait for her to produce my "prison records"

CatB said:

rdhull said:

what the hell? yall crazy lol

We learned from the best...

anangellooksdown said:

I was threatened with INTERPOL. I am laughing so hard at this shite

Yeah I can see how you're "laughing". Until they come for you again... then everyone else will be the evil ones again and you the victim...

The one who threatened you with Interpol - is that the same one you have ghost sex with?

...that his fans would grow with him...and remain sane

luvsexy4all said:

...that his fans would grow with him...and remain sane

CatB said: