TKO said:

I own everything on cd, vinyl or digital for collecting purposes. Anyways. I also stream his music because it's easy and you can make playlists. It looks like some people here are clueless about streaming services. If you use Spotify Premium you CAN download everythinh you want and listen off line. You don't need connection.

Clueless? Really? I know exactly how streaming works - including the ability to download and listen off line. But you have to pay for that. I know - I researched all kinds of options when I was looking for an alternative to satellite radio.

Talking about Prince (which is what this thread is about), the clueless thing is paying to listen to music you already own. But what can I say? I'm just stupid like that.

Genesia said:

maceoparker007 said:

Have to admit there are some old folk on here that don’t have a clue, sometimes I wonder if they still travel around town in a horse and cart. The next generation of Prince fans are lot more tech savvy. Genesia said:

Clueless? Really? I know exactly how streaming works - including the ability to download and listen off line. But you have to pay for that. I know - I researched all kinds of options when I was looking for an alternative to satellite radio.

Talking about Prince (which is what this thread is about), the clueless thing is paying to listen to music you already own. But what can I say? I'm just stupid like that.

Y'know...just yesterday I was reading an article about how college students request absentee ballots - then never send them in because they don't know how (or can't be bothered) to find a postage stamp.

Tell me again how clueless "some old folk" are.

Sign O the Times....?! who needs postage stamps when you got email and its FREE?! nice try but people really need to keep up with the times.

Genesia said:

maceoparker007 said:

Have to admit there are some old folk on here that don’t have a clue, sometimes I wonder if they still travel around town in a horse and cart. The next generation of Prince fans are lot more tech savvy. Genesia said:

Y'know...just yesterday I was reading an article about how college students request absentee ballots - then never send them in because they don't know how (or can't be bothered) to find a postage stamp.

Tell me again how clueless "some old folk" are.

maceoparker007 said:

Sign O the Times....?! who needs postage stamps when you got email and its FREE?! nice try but people really need to keep up with the times.

Genesia said:

Y'know...just yesterday I was reading an article about how college students request absentee ballots - then never send them in because they don't know how (or can't be bothered) to find a postage stamp.

Tell me again how clueless "some old folk" are.

Further proof that millennials never met a point they couldn't miss.

A. I am not a millennial B. I would feel sorry for your kids (if you have any)

Genesia said:

maceoparker007 said:

Sign O the Times....?! who needs postage stamps when you got email and its FREE?! nice try but people really need to keep up with the times.

Further proof that millennials never met a point they couldn't miss.

Genesia said:

maceoparker007 said:

Sign O the Times....?! who needs postage stamps when you got email and its FREE?! nice try but people really need to keep up with the times.

Further proof that millennials never met a point they couldn't miss.

Agreed. "Keeping up with the times" doesn't mean you let every new thing fuck you in the ass 24/7. Sure I pay bills online, but I will also walk into Target and pay on my RedCard personally. I go into my bank to withdraw money.

Streaming music isn't required by anyone just because it's there. Streaming is a compromise to downloading for free. It still cheats the artist. Spotify pays literal pennies per paid per stream. Those of us who treasure music as a tangible and valuable item are willing to pay for an LP or CD for an artist we love. It's why we buy Prince albums for fuck's sake. Just because music is free (mostly) to stream doesn't mean we have to do it.

"Keep up with the times"? If that means being a clueless asshole (which I'm not accusing anywhere here of doing - it's a broad statement, not a specific one), no thanks. I'll stay old school.

I kayak in a stream...

maceoparker007 said:

A. I am not a millennial B. I would feel sorry for your kids (if you have any)

Genesia said:

Further proof that millennials never met a point they couldn't miss.

If you're 28 like it says in your profile then you're a millennial.

sexton said:

TrivialPursuit said:

lust said:

maceoparker007 said:

I never give my real age to random websites that have no reason for capturing it. But let’s just say I am a lot older.

sexton said:

If you're 28 like it says in your profile then you're a millennial.

Do like I do and don't give any age at all.

sexton said:

Genesia said:

TKO said:

I own everything on cd, vinyl or digital for collecting purposes. Anyways. I also stream his music because it's easy and you can make playlists. It looks like some people here are clueless about streaming services. If you use Spotify Premium you CAN download everythinh you want and listen off line. You don't need connection.

Clueless? Really? I know exactly how streaming works - including the ability to download and listen off line. But you have to pay for that. I know - I researched all kinds of options when I was looking for an alternative to satellite radio.

Talking about Prince (which is what this thread is about), the clueless thing is paying to listen to music you already own. But what can I say? I'm just stupid like that.

I don't only listen to Prince music so i don't know why you keep repeating 'Paying for music you already own'.

Streaming is cheap and you can listen to 1000000 songs and albums paying the same you have to pay for 1 album.

And YES, some people here are clueless. Repeating they CAN'T stream because WIFI, but if you own a streaming service you can download everything you want and listen everywhere.

databank said:

Neither. I ripped all my CD's long ago. I maintain a huge digital collection. It's the perfect solution for me: it all fits in a small hard drive but it's my collection and I don't need the internet to access it.

Genesia said:

Why would I pay to listen to something I already own?

And

Genesia said:

sexton said:

Why don't more people do this? It's better than streaming.

Especially if (as I do), you already own everything. I can have my own 24/7 Prince station any time I want.

And too!

maceoparker007 said:

OMG...you never read my post history. A. I still buy CDs with cold cash B. I digitise CDs I have bought to put on my own private streaming server that I can access from anywhere and everywhere. I do not subscribe to any commercial streaming services C. I am fully aware of the bad deal artists get from the streaming model as Prince stated a long time ago. D. You can still take advantage of new technology and all the benefits it brings and still respect artist for thier work like I have.

Oh, stop it, you. You don't know what I read and what I don't. Heavens.

Actually, we both approach music very much the same way.:

A. I buy CDs too, but actually more LPs lately; it's nice to bring home vinyl still.

B. I have digitized my CDs and LPs to my cloud drive in the house so I can stream everywhere, too.

C. ok

D. Of course, we can, I said earlier (did you read mine lol) that for me it's about convenience to use Spotify which I often do. Other times, Spotify just doesn't have what I do in my library so I'll stream in the house. FYI I don't 'subscribe' in that I don't pay for things like iTunes or Spotify or Pandora. I use them. (I have a couple of good Pandora stations I use for us old people's music.) But yeah, I ain't paying to stream what I already have. The only time I ever use SiriusXM is when it's a free trial or something.

databank said:

Neither. I ripped all my CD's long ago. I maintain a huge digital collection. It's the perfect solution for me: it all fits in a small hard drive but it's my collection and I don't need the internet to access it.

This is what I've done. Ripped all my CDs, needle-dropped all my vinyl, dubbed all my cassettes. Mostly I listen to these digital copies, either on my computer connected to my old school audio system or on my iPod classic for on the go. Neither requires an internet connection or is subject to titles being removed as licensing rights shift or expire. A few times a year I'll be in the mood for a "vinyl day", select a stack of wax (heavy with selections from my Prince collection of course) and spend the day flipping discs. But most of the time, it's my own digital library. I never stream. Not tidal, not spotify, not google, not apple, not amazon, not even netflix or any of the other video services. Streaming is renting, my generation bought and owned music.

TrivialPursuit said:

Genesia said:

Why would I pay to listen to something I already own?

It depends where I am or what I have in front of me. I'll use Spotify in a pinch. It's also nice if I wanna flip artists or whatever. If I really want to skip commercials, I'll use iTunes.

Commercials?!? I've never used a streaming service, so I had no idea. I don't do commercials for audio or video... I timeshift 100% of the TV shows I watch to avoid commercials. One more reason I have no use for streaming, I guess.

TKO said:

I own everything on cd, vinyl or digital for collecting purposes. Anyways. I also stream his music because it's easy and you can make playlists. It looks like some people here are clueless about streaming services. If you use Spotify Premium you CAN download everythinh you want and listen off line. You don't need connection.

But if you already own everything off line, why would you want to?

maceoparker007 said:

Have to admit there are some old folk on here that don’t have a clue, sometimes I wonder if they still travel around town in a horse and cart. The next generation of Prince fans are lot more tech savvy. Genesia said:

Clueless? Really? I know exactly how streaming works - including the ability to download and listen off line. But you have to pay for that. I know - I researched all kinds of options when I was looking for an alternative to satellite radio.

Talking about Prince (which is what this thread is about), the clueless thing is paying to listen to music you already own. But what can I say? I'm just stupid like that.

Us old folks are the ones that regularly see threads with people bitching about this or that streaming service no longer having a particular album and then chuckle because our physical copies are still on our shelves and our digital backups are still on our devices. Plus our playlists include associated artists and bootlegs and anything else that isn't available on the streaming services. I can listen to anything in my Prince collection, any time or anywhere without need of a connection and unaffected by changing licensing agreements or the whims of copyright holders. No streaming service can do that.

Genesia said:

maceoparker007 said:

Sign O the Times....?! who needs postage stamps when you got email and its FREE?! nice try but people really need to keep up with the times.

Further proof that millennials never met a point they couldn't miss.

I wanna see how they email absentee ballots.

djThunderfunk said:

TrivialPursuit said:

maceoparker007 said:

OMG...you never read my post history. A. I still buy CDs with cold cash B. I digitise CDs I have bought to put on my own private streaming server that I can access from anywhere and everywhere. I do not subscribe to any commercial streaming services C. I am fully aware of the bad deal artists get from the streaming model as Prince stated a long time ago. D. You can still take advantage of new technology and all the benefits it brings and still respect artist for thier work like I have.

Oh, stop it, you. You don't know what I read and what I don't. Heavens.

Actually, we both approach music very much the same way.:

A. I buy CDs too, but actually more LPs lately; it's nice to bring home vinyl still.

B. I have digitized my CDs and LPs to my cloud drive in the house so I can stream everywhere, too.

C. ok

D. Of course, we can, I said earlier (did you read mine lol) that for me it's about convenience to use Spotify which I often do. Other times, Spotify just doesn't have what I do in my library so I'll stream in the house. FYI I don't 'subscribe' in that I don't pay for things like iTunes or Spotify or Pandora. I use them. (I have a couple of good Pandora stations I use for us old people's music.) But yeah, I ain't paying to stream what I already have. The only time I ever use SiriusXM is when it's a free trial or something.

We do basically the same thing. For you it's convenient to stream for yourself. For me, I have mostly old-school analog equipment. The most convenient option is physically connecting my device (iPod classic or laptop) to my various equipment. I have no desire nor the extra cash to spend on updating all my audio equipment with new digital systems capable of streaming. As long as my analog systems sound as good as they do, I'm happy with an analog connection.

Once again, no special equipment required apart from my PC and iphone. I dont think you fully realise the simplicity of my streaming setup and how versatile it is

djThunderfunk said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Oh, stop it, you. You don't know what I read and what I don't. Heavens.

Actually, we both approach music very much the same way.:

A. I buy CDs too, but actually more LPs lately; it's nice to bring home vinyl still.

B. I have digitized my CDs and LPs to my cloud drive in the house so I can stream everywhere, too.

C. ok

D. Of course, we can, I said earlier (did you read mine lol) that for me it's about convenience to use Spotify which I often do. Other times, Spotify just doesn't have what I do in my library so I'll stream in the house. FYI I don't 'subscribe' in that I don't pay for things like iTunes or Spotify or Pandora. I use them. (I have a couple of good Pandora stations I use for us old people's music.) But yeah, I ain't paying to stream what I already have. The only time I ever use SiriusXM is when it's a free trial or something.

We do basically the same thing. For you it's convenient to stream for yourself. For me, I have mostly old-school analog equipment. The most convenient option is physically connecting my device (iPod classic or laptop) to my various equipment. I have no desire nor the extra cash to spend on updating all my audio equipment with new digital systems capable of streaming. As long as my analog systems sound as good as they do, I'm happy with an analog connection.

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maceoparker007 said:

So can I. My private streaming server is completely independent and 100% in my control. djThunderfunk said:

So we're doing basically the same thing with our libraries, too. Except you stream yourself while I use an analog connection. If you own digital sound systems that have streaming connectability and I own analog sound systems that have physical inputs then we are each using the one that makes the most sense for our situation. No?

Any negative comments I've made about "streaming" should be applied to using a streaming service. Streaming to yourself from your own library is not what I am talking about when I scoff at streaming. I would guess most here are talking about the services though.

maceoparker007 said:

Once again, no special equipment required apart from my PC and iphone. I dont think you fully realise the simplicity of my streaming setup and how versatile it is

djThunderfunk said:

We do basically the same thing. For you it's convenient to stream for yourself. For me, I have mostly old-school analog equipment. The most convenient option is physically connecting my device (iPod classic or laptop) to my various equipment. I have no desire nor the extra cash to spend on updating all my audio equipment with new digital systems capable of streaming. As long as my analog systems sound as good as they do, I'm happy with an analog connection.

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Since I would never listen to a music on a PC or phone, I guess not. My amps and speakers sound much better. They all have physical input connections. Maybe you don't realize the simplicity or the versatility this affords me.

Basically our libraries are the same. The only difference is you are streaming your digital library to your listening device(s) while I physically connect my devices to various audio systems. It's not difficult either.