violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Hard to make out this picture. I know that's Brenda and Susan, but what is happening in this shot??!

is that really Brenda? I thought it was a lady named Kim Upsher.

SoulAlive said:

violetcrush said:

Hard to make out this picture. I know that's Brenda and Susan, but what is happening in this shot??!

is that really Brenda? I thought it was a lady named Kim Upsher.

Oh, probably. She was Prince's girlfriend before Susan, right? Or at the same time...who the heck knows, because he overlapped all of his girls I guess she was part of the Second Coming film?? I can't keep all of his shenanigans straignt!!

yeah,it's hard to keep up with them

As for that picture.....not sure what's going on.Looks like Susan is seated and is probably getting ready for a date? her friend Kim is helping her,perhaps? lol

why do peope keep saying no one has this film??? i know of one collector who had it (60min) ,,,,although shitty quality

luvsexy4all said:

why do peope keep saying no one has this film??? i know of one collector who had it (60min) ,,,,although shitty quality

Really wishing someone would just post it on YT!! I've only seen two very short clips. Would love to see Prince so young, cute, and sexual

From the interview with Director/Producer Chuck Statler:

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The public rarely sees this playful and relaxed side. There is another remarkable shot of him blowing bubblegum bubbles on the set. Was that intended for the film or just a candid aside?

That was actually for inclusion in the film. It started as a boom shot on his white boots with the bandana wrapped around his ankle. Then we boomed straight up; Prince had this duster jacket on, flipped it back and revealed his little black bikini. It continued to come up and ended on his face. Right then he blew a pink Hubba Bubba bubble. He starts chewing the gum, takes it out of his mouth, wraps it around his finger and sticks it back in his mouth.

Now this was late in what felt like a three-day drill, but in reality was probably more in the area of twenty-plus hours of production. After about so many takes I say, “Okay, we got it. Let’s go on to the next shot.” Prince looks at me and says, “No—I’ll tell you when we got it.” Now there might have been some minor rubs before that, but it was at that moment…I said, “Okay—if that’s the way you want it.”

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We shot roll after roll after roll on that boom shot. The crew was exhausted and started passing out. So I go over to the management to tell them we’re already in platinum time. We already shot a thousand feet for this shot. [laughs] It was insane, but I realized he was making a statement—“We’ll stop when I decide.” That was definitely a moment there. We did a few shots after that, and I was like, “Prince, you tell me when you got it.” The subsequent takes were less strenuous, about a half a dozen or so. It was costly but money was no object for him. I still don’t think it is! But I have to say, I think he’s easier to work with now, but back in the day he certainly had a reputation as being tough and at times difficult.

You eventually wrap on this hard day’s night of filming. What happened next on the production schedule?

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Now I get the house footage back. We had stuff blocked out, so that the following week we were going to shoot another day. It was kind of spread out because we knew the schedule for trying to get a rough cut on the concert footage was going to take place over at least another month.

At some point in the process of posting the concert footage and planning the next sequence of interstitial material, Prince came in and for whatever reason didn’t like what he saw. Then that was it. He pulled the plug and stepped away from The Second Coming. And with everything else, there wasn’t a lot of communication between us.

Was there even an opportunity to assemble a rough cut of the concert and house footage?

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No, it never got cut, because we never got to that stage. We were still in the process of cutting the concert at the same time. His management did come back to me several times over the years to discuss the project, but nothing materialized. The film just sat there.

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Chuck sent the Bloomington concert footage back to Prince, but he still has the dramatic footage. The Estate should let him put the film together!

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yeah,I really wish that they would take all this footage,complete the movie and finally release it! It could be a DVD/blu-ray in a Controversy Deluxe Edition!

SoulAlive said:

yeah,I really wish that they would take all this footage,complete the movie and finally release it! It could be a DVD/blu-ray in a Controversy Deluxe Edition!

Yep!! Would be a great package, and a good representation of where Prince was with his music and artisitc ideas at that time.

SoulAlive said:

yeah,it's hard to keep up with them

As for that picture.....not sure what's going on.Looks like Susan is seated and is probably getting ready for a date? her friend Kim is helping her,perhaps? lol

lol I love these clips

Kim, dressed mature and adult already is getting virginal Susan ready 4 the 2nd Coming

violetcrush said:

Also, I never realized that Jill Jones was backstage during the V6 shows providing backup vocals. Princevault has her listed as doing vox during the tour. The things you learn...!!

Yeah, I think I have a photo were you can see her outline behind the curtain

"At one point this stunning blonde walks over to me, taps me on my shoulder and says, “Hello, I’m Jamie Shoop and Prince would like you to escort him to the mens room.” How bizarre I thought. Certainly a line I’ll never forget. “Who?” I asked. “Prince!” she said contemplating my response. Didn’t I know who Prince was? She pointed to him and I nonchalantly glanced over my shoulder in his direction. What an eyeful this boy. “What’s wrong?” I said. “Can’t he hold it himself?” This was of course the beginning of a communication line based on sheer poetry. He had the biggest doe eyes I’d ever seen."

"He sauntered over as if on a catwalk with more than enough confidence trying hard not to smile. Obviously, somebody famous because everyone was looking his way. I regret to say that I did not. You see I’d been in Japan for the last year and hadn’t kept up with the latest music in the U.S.A. Approximately six months previous to this moment I recalled seeing his face in a record shop in Japan. For a split second, I thought to myself, “I wouldn’t mind meeting up with this guy someday. He kind of looks like he could be my brother.”

(Unreleased excerpt of Blame It On Vanity)

OldFriends4Sale said:

I thought Susan had great moves...a natural dancer.

peggyon said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I thought Susan had great moves...a natural dancer.

Yes, there are some natural moves by Susan that I swear Prince picked up from her, that you see him doing from 1999 onward. I think of her Drive Me Wild video moves and his Little Red Corvette stuff

OldFriends4Sale said:

peggyon said:

I thought Susan had great moves...a natural dancer.

Yes, there are some natural moves by Susan that I swear Prince picked up from her, that you see him doing from 1999 onward. I think of her Drive Me Wild video moves and his Little Red Corvette stuff

I believe I read that she did take dance classes, and was into it when Prince met her.

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Then Susannah peaked his interest in Ballet moves, because she took classical ballet throughout her childhood. She told the story of trying to teach him how to do a Pirouette the traditional way, from 4th position. She said he could do the single, but not the double, and then he morphed it into that signature spin that he would do on stage. Too funny!! Also, he would often jump and criss-cross his feet while in the air from late 80's to early 90's, sort of like a Entrechat jump. He does it in the Thieves In The Temple video, and I think in the Scandalous video too.

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[Edited 10/5/18 13:50pm]

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, there are some natural moves by Susan that I swear Prince picked up from her, that you see him doing from 1999 onward. I think of her Drive Me Wild video moves and his Little Red Corvette stuff

I believe I read that she did take dance classes, and was into it when Prince met her.

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Then Susannah peaked his interest in Ballet moves, because she took classical ballet throughout her childhood. She told the story of trying to teach him how to do a Pirouette the traditional way, from 4th position. She said he could do the single, but not the double, and then he morphed it into that signature spin that he would do on stage. Too funny!! Also, he would often jump and criss-cross his feet while in the air from late 80's to early 90's, sort of like a Entrechat jump. He does it in the Thieves In The Temple video, and I think in the Scandalous video too.

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[Edited 10/5/18 13:50pm]

Here's the "morphed Pirouette" in the TITT video...I think right before this he does the Entrechat jump:

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violetcrush said:

Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:

I believe I read that she did take dance classes, and was into it when Prince met her.

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Then Susannah peaked his interest in Ballet moves, because she took classical ballet throughout her childhood. She told the story of trying to teach him how to do a Pirouette the traditional way, from 4th position. She said he could do the single, but not the double, and then he morphed it into that signature spin that he would do on stage. Too funny!! Also, he would often jump and criss-cross his feet while in the air from late 80's to early 90's, sort of like a Entrechat jump. He does it in the Thieves In The Temple video, and I think in the Scandalous video too.

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[Edited 10/5/18 13:50pm]

Thanks! I love dance so I found that really interesting.

Yes, same for me. I almost majored in dance in College - had natural talent and had taken classes off and on during childhood, but I didn't think I had enough training. I would use the dance studios on campus when they were empty to do my own improve, and people would stop and watch, and ask if I was in the Company. That always made me feel good, and also made me regret not trying out for the Company!!

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Susannah talked about her Ballet and teaching Prince some moves in her interview with RR Auction about a year ago. Here's the link if you haven't heard it -

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https://www.rrauction.com/Susannah-Melvoin-Prince-Collection.html

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She has great stories about other items she gave to RR.

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Also loved the picture of her with the Violin and Ballet shoes that ended up on the ATWIAD cover"

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Susan Moonsie (now)

violetcrush said:

Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, same for me. I almost majored in dance in College - had natural talent and had taken classes off and on during childhood, but I didn't think I had enough training. I would use the dance studios on campus when they were empty to do my own improve, and people would stop and watch, and ask if I was in the Company. That always made me feel good, and also made me regret not trying out for the Company!!

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Susannah talked about her Ballet and teaching Prince some moves in her interview with RR Auction about a year ago. Here's the link if you haven't heard it -

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https://www.rrauction.com/Susannah-Melvoin-Prince-Collection.html

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She has great stories about other items she gave to RR.

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Also loved the picture of her with the Violin and Ballet shoes that ended up on the ATWIAD cover"

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Thanks! I can see Susannah as having a natural apluidue for ballet. I think ballet is a great foundation for other types of dance as well..it conditions the right muscles, teaches grace and discipline. I used to want to be a ballerina when I was a girl but just felt like I didn't have the right body type for it. I always was impressed by Prince's dancing ...i remember watching the Sign of the Times movie back in the day trying to copy his moves...he made me want to learn the splits

Yes, it seems she got pretty far with the training, but I guess realized that a career in ballet would be tough, so she pursued singing instead. Ballet is definitely great in so many ways - even just for hte body in general. Barre exercise classes are still very popular.

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I'm pretty sure the picture of her with the Violin was takin at Prince's "purple" house. There's a picture of him in the early 80's sitting on that chair in front of the curtain

thread title CAN be misleading

"Nasty Girl (extended version)" by Vanity 6 (1982)

violetcrush said:

SoulAlive said:

when "Nasty Girl" came out as a single,our local R&B station played it but they removed the most suggestive line ("I need 7 inches or more") so it went like this....."that's right I can't control it.....tonight I can no longer hold it......lol....it wasn't until I got the album on Christmas 1982 that I heard the provocative edited line