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Thread started 09/06/18 9:03am

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Prince Symbol on Witch Starter Kit

Sephora is launching this "Witch Starter Kit" October. My feeling are Prince would Hell No this! eek Without the estate approval how can his symbol be used, not to mention his beliefs are not aligned.

What you think?


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Reply #1 posted 09/06/18 9:07am

BlueShakooo

I think it's funny... biggrin
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Reply #2 posted 09/06/18 9:20am

Cinny

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SUE SEPHORA! That is a worse enfringment for use of the symbol than any Eye Records release!

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Reply #3 posted 09/06/18 9:37am

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isnt that crazy... i mean his love symbol on tarot cards ... Doubt the estate has seen this. In stores oct 3. https://snobette.com/2018...witch-kit/

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Reply #4 posted 09/06/18 9:39am

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whoops ....oct 9.... cool

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Reply #5 posted 09/06/18 9:41am

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Wow. That just isn't cool. sad

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Reply #6 posted 09/06/18 10:41am

RJP1205

I don't like this.
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Reply #7 posted 09/06/18 10:42am

MiraBoo

I think its inspired by this vintage tarot card but I wonder how long this version of the card has been around. This is weird.

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Reply #8 posted 09/06/18 11:21am

CatB

loveandkindness said:

Without the estate approval how can his symbol be used, not to mention his beliefs are not aligned.



Because those are alchemy symbols and much older than any copyrighted design for Prince.




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Reply #9 posted 09/06/18 11:39am

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but the little 'Prince specific' curlique..... it's just an odd choice from the graphics design.. I mean, who DOESN'T know that is the love/Prince symbol? My 92 yr old aunt recognizes it. I realize I live in a purple bubble, but that symbol...

CatB said:

loveandkindness said:

Without the estate approval how can his symbol be used, not to mention his beliefs are not aligned.



Because those are alchemy symbols and much older than any copyrighted design for Prince.




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Reply #10 posted 09/06/18 11:42am

Cinny

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I knew of the alchemy symbols but not the Empress tarot card one.

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Reply #11 posted 09/06/18 11:43am

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Copiapite is defined in a wiki as "copiapite (a basic iron sulfate, gold in color)"


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Reply #12 posted 09/06/18 11:58am

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oh my gosh i never knew.... and the Empress is venus in gemini....priince being gemini....and look at the soapstone with the curligue beautiful thanks cat .

carnalflower said:

but the little 'Prince specific' curlique..... it's just an odd choice from the graphics design.. I mean, who DOESN'T know that is the love/Prince symbol? My 92 yr old aunt recognizes it. I realize I live in a purple bubble, but that symbol...

CatB said:



Because those are alchemy symbols and much older than any copyrighted design for Prince.




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Reply #13 posted 09/06/18 12:16pm

CatB

loveandkindness said:

oh my gosh i never knew.... and the Empress is venus in gemini....priince being gemini....and look at the soapstone with the curligue beautiful thanks cat .

carnalflower said:

but the little 'Prince specific' curlique..... it's just an odd choice from the graphics design.. I mean, who DOESN'T know that is the love/Prince symbol? My 92 yr old aunt recognizes it. I realize I live in a purple bubble, but that symbol...



Prince was an alchemist. His music is alchemy. Not only the lyrics (Diamonds and Pearls is a hint to St. Germain, one of the most famous alchemists, Gold and Crystal Ball or other references) but the music itself. Composition is a form of alchemy.
When I say he was an alchemist people will often laugh before even thinking about it, shake their heads or just don't understand it. It's okay, it's not my job to convince anyone, but with Prince, one just needs to understand that nothing was coincidence or random. He knew things.

As for soapstone - some say soapstone is the infamous "Philosopher's Stone" which is the basic tool for any alchemy process.


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Reply #14 posted 09/06/18 1:22pm

jennalynn

I heard that the witch kit is being pulled before its release due to backlash surrounding it (mostly becase of other things they addressed, they didn't say as much at all about the artwork on it).

~everything is a prince reference~
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Reply #15 posted 09/06/18 1:41pm

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I guessing they got a C&D.

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Reply #16 posted 09/06/18 5:45pm

RJOrion

that symbol was a symbol WAY before Prince was a symbol...he couldnt have sued...
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Reply #17 posted 09/06/18 5:47pm

RJOrion

CatB said:



loveandkindness said:


oh my gosh i never knew.... and the Empress is venus in gemini....priince being gemini....and look at the soapstone with the curligue beautiful thanks cat .



carnalflower said:


but the little 'Prince specific' curlique..... it's just an odd choice from the graphics design.. I mean, who DOESN'T know that is the love/Prince symbol? My 92 yr old aunt recognizes it. I realize I live in a purple bubble, but that symbol...








Prince was an alchemist. His music is alchemy. Not only the lyrics (Diamonds and Pearls is a hint to St. Germain, one of the most famous alchemists, Gold and Crystal Ball or other references) but the music itself. Composition is a form of alchemy.
When I say he was an alchemist people will often laugh before even thinking about it, shake their heads or just don't understand it. It's okay, it's not my job to convince anyone, but with Prince, one just needs to understand that nothing was coincidence or random. He knew things.

As for soapstone - some say soapstone is the infamous "Philosopher's Stone" which is the basic tool for any alchemy process.





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Reply #18 posted 09/06/18 6:15pm

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Reply #19 posted 09/06/18 9:17pm

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RJOrion said:

https://www.howardnema.com/2016/04/25/prince-and-the-hidden-meaning-of-his-symbol/

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Reply #20 posted 09/07/18 6:04am

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Shockedelica... girl must be a witch...

badder than the wicked witch!

An affliction brought on by a witch's curse.

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Reply #21 posted 09/07/18 8:04am

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Yea, that's pretty bad. Sue the living ba-Jesus out of that company.

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #22 posted 09/07/18 8:29pm

tmo1965

jennalynn said:

I heard that the witch kit is being pulled before its release due to backlash surrounding it (mostly becase of other things they addressed, they didn't say as much at all about the artwork on it).

Yeah, apparently witches don't dig it.

https://qz.com/quartzy/13...-canceled/

https://www.theblaze.com/...yes-really

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Reply #23 posted 09/08/18 5:39am

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According to the QZ article linked above, the company took it from a stock image website.

Following it through it takes you to an artist called Samira May. I assume she did this recently (ie. knowing it's P's symbol but would be interested to hear if she claims its from another older source? (A google search for other empress cards shows the female symbol but not the P symbol).

https://www.dreamstime.co...ge62435128

The QZ article also links to a wired.com article where it says the 'Love' symbol was designed on commission for Prince by Mitch Monson and Lizz Luce from design agency HDMG in 1992.

https://www.wired.com/201...one-night/

However, it must be noted that a similar (possible early version?) symbol was worn by Prince in the Graffiti Bridge era.

[Edited 9/8/18 6:00am]

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Reply #24 posted 09/08/18 11:32am

jennalynn

tmo1965 said:

jennalynn said:

I heard that the witch kit is being pulled before its release due to backlash surrounding it (mostly becase of other things they addressed, they didn't say as much at all about the artwork on it).

Yeah, apparently witches don't dig it.

https://qz.com/quartzy/13...-canceled/

https://www.theblaze.com/...yes-really

yeah, there was a huge uproar about it online in the witch communities. though a few posts made on it mentioned Prince's symbol, most of the people were focused on other things. I think the use of white sage was one of the big ones before they knew where it was sourced from?

tbh i was a lot more invested in Prince's symbol being involved than what most people there were mentioning, so I'm not as up to date on a lot of people about the other reasons, but considering sephora/pinrose only mentioned very little in their cancellation about the artwork, and went on at length about the sage and other stuff, the use of Prince's symbol was probably only a very small factor, if a factor at all, it the cancellation.

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