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Reply #150 posted 09/24/18 1:36am

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IHeartNPG4Life said:

databank said:

"Using the 1983 tape as a starting point, Tyka Nelson says the estate is hoping to unveil a new collection of unreleased music every year", "If it was up to me, we’d see something every year for the next hundred or thousand years"

Source: https://www.rollingstone....gn-698529/

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IDK how much of this is true, and how definitive it is. Sharon also said here that an online store wasn't out of the question so there's hope, but I'm quite outraged by this statement. I'm 41, my life expectation is about 80 years old (it might have increased dramatically by then, given how fast science moves, but I could also die from a cancer before I'm 50 for all I know). Most of us are over 40, over 50 for the older fans, and most of us won't live much longer than a few more decades. And we're being told that while thousands of songs, rehearsals and live shows are stored in the vault we can't expect more than one record a year before we die? And that kids who weren't even born when Prince was alive are to get the rest of it later, after we who supported Prince all thoughout his career will be long gone? no no no!

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While I understand that they need a prestigious, mainstream audience release a year and little more for the general public and music press, I also know that most of us are willing and able to purchase an album's worth of material every month, NPGMC-style. We did it in 2001, and we'd do it again. So why not do that, too?

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I don't wanna sound dramatic: I enjoy and listen to a lot of other music, and I have enough Prince music on my drive, more than most artists' fans could ever dream of. I have things going on in my life, I don't depend on Prince to be happy, so I can live with that. But nevertheless, I've devoted lots of time and money into my passion for Prince's music, and I can't help finding such a statement super frustrating. There's too much music in that vault, it's gotta come out!

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Y'all with me on that?

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[Edited 8/27/18 13:27pm]

The over 50 crowd don't have much to complain about from my perspective. When is the last time the estate did anything to attract us younger folks? When have they released anything NPG related? Since 2016 EVERY RELEASE has been targeted at those old enough to be my parents and grandparents. I have yet to see anything released that is my age and after it. The Prince 4Ever CD had just 2 NPG songs on it. The only non 80s stuff that I have seen come out was Mayte's Book. You guys have gotten the an Expanded and Deluxe versions of Purple Rain with a DVD. The most favorite book about the studio sessions of 1984 by Duane Tudahl. From my side of the age scale? You guys are getting handed stuff left and right. Personally I'm tired of having the 70s and 80s stuff thrown my way with the expectation that I'm suppose to buy it and be just as thrilled when it doesn't even relate to my era. I love old school but not when it being done as unbalanced as this is. In my mind the heirs and those running the estate don't care one bit about us younger folks or the kids yet to be born. They are only focusing on the older crowd.

Your post suggests that you became a fan in the last few years and that you have originally become a fan because of Prince's late music, not his "classic" material. I couldn't be happier to read this because though I may be considered an "old" fan (41 years old, fan since 1989), I've kept enjoying Prince's music throughout the years and I've never valued his earlier output more than his post-1995 output. I could probably just as well have become a fan thanks to his later records if I'd been born 10 or 15 years later than I have.

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Actually, given the huge amount of 1977-95 material that's already been bootlegged, I'm much more interested in later vault material, both in terms of outtakes and rehearsals, than in 80's stuff that's been rehashed to death. Anyway my point was merely that regardless of what is being released, there is a demand for much more material than an album a year. And while you may live another century or more to enjoy the music (which is very likely if you're around 20, given how life expectation is predicted to boom at some point in the mid-21st century), we old timers may not have that much time ahead of us.

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[Edited 9/24/18 1:38am]

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Reply #151 posted 10/04/18 10:55am

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Box sets of all of Kate Bush's output, newly remastered, including a bunch of rarities: http://www.superdeluxeedi...-box-sets/ . Does seem to be incomplete, however.

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I'm also wondering if these remasters a re a good thing. KB has in recent years (and in the past) tinkered with some of her albums, and I wouldn't exactly call those result improvements.

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Reply #152 posted 10/04/18 11:07am

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Seems to me this is the last statement we've heard from Tyka, and we haven't seen her since. What closet did her siblings lock her up in?

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Reply #153 posted 10/04/18 3:15pm

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how come sharon asked US what we want released?? did she furnish the estate /comerica with the results??????????

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Reply #154 posted 10/05/18 3:25am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Box sets of all of Kate Bush's output, newly remastered, including a bunch of rarities: http://www.superdeluxeedi...-box-sets/ . Does seem to be incomplete, however.

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I'm also wondering if these remasters a re a good thing. KB has in recent years (and in the past) tinkered with some of her albums, and I wouldn't exactly call those result improvements.


I dunno, the Anniversary Edition of Hounds Of Love was an improvement over the original CD. Very carefully remastered, the difference is minimal, but there's a little more depth, you can hear it in "Hello Earth" especially, which has maybe the greatest dynamic range of all the album's songs.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #155 posted 10/26/18 6:44am

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I hadn't looked too much at the new Bowie box set, Loving The Alien, so I was surprised to find that it didn't just include remastered versions of his 1980s albums (excluding Tin Machine), but also a drastic make-over of Never Let Me Down: https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Down_2018

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While Bowie wasn't invovled, the peopel who did it had collaborated extensively with Bowie, and Bowie himself had repeatedly planned on re-doing at least some of the album. One of its tracks was actually remixed under his supervision, and it's this remix that was included on recent compilations.

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Of course it's unlikely any Prince album will ever require such work, yet at the same time it is relevant in this context: once we get to the estate releasing legendary but unreleased albums like Dream Factory et al, we're basically in a similar situation: in the end those are abandoned concepts, and in several cases there are conflicting tracklists. In some cases multiple versions might exist of a track: which one was the one planned for inclusion? And perhaps there might be a case where an edit needs to be made, or a segue added...

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Perhaps there will be so many "loose" outtakes and alternate versions that the estate might consider going the "Hendrix route": not merely putting out compilations, but instead conceptualizing new albums.

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Then again, considering the slow-as-molasses release schedule they seem to adhere to, we might get lucky if some of the classic 1980s albums get a "Deluxe" treatment before global climate change makes human life untenable.

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Reply #156 posted 10/26/18 8:20am

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BartVanHemelen said:

I hadn't looked too much at the new Bowie box set, Loving The Alien, so I was surprised to find that it didn't just include remastered versions of his 1980s albums (excluding Tin Machine), but also a drastic make-over of Never Let Me Down: https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Down_2018

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While Bowie wasn't invovled, the peopel who did it had collaborated extensively with Bowie, and Bowie himself had repeatedly planned on re-doing at least some of the album. One of its tracks was actually remixed under his supervision, and it's this remix that was included on recent compilations.

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Of course it's unlikely any Prince album will ever require such work, yet at the same time it is relevant in this context: once we get to the estate releasing legendary but unreleased albums like Dream Factory et al, we're basically in a similar situation: in the end those are abandoned concepts, and in several cases there are conflicting tracklists. In some cases multiple versions might exist of a track: which one was the one planned for inclusion? And perhaps there might be a case where an edit needs to be made, or a segue added...

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Perhaps there will be so many "loose" outtakes and alternate versions that the estate might consider going the "Hendrix route": not merely putting out compilations, but instead conceptualizing new albums.

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Then again, considering the slow-as-molasses release schedule they seem to adhere to, we might get lucky if some of the classic 1980s albums get a "Deluxe" treatment before global climate change makes human life untenable.

Brilliant post. Bowie's estate is doing things the right way in my opinion. It's incredible the amount of new materail that's been released since his passing. I would also add the Bob Dylan estate is also knocking it out of the park with their Bootleg Series. The latest Blood on the Tracks expansion (More Blood, More Tracks) looks to be another classic. This style could also be copied by the estate.

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Reply #157 posted 10/26/18 9:20am

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I guess that if the estate can afford to release only one new album a year, that means they've settled the estate taxes.

Because one album a year isn't a deal the IRS would take for tax payments.

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