I just need the slave to release his masters....

Master boxsets 1978-1988 right this kind, to begin with:


Every album with a bonus-disk w./ B-sides, extended versions, outtakes, demos etc..


Now THAT would make me happy, again..

Pretty please, make the Prince community HAPPY... better soon than never..

udo said:

leecaldon said:

Look at all of Bart's examples. Adn there's no need for it to disrupt mainstream releases. A 1 CD version is released for the casual fan, and a multi-disc set for the hardcore. Purple Rain had an expanded edition.

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Sure, so why is WB releasing a single disc with 35 minutes of audio?

Not even a full CD of audio?

Or a double CD?

They did not announce that 12 disc box set yet.

I have zero inside info, and that does seem a strange release. But it seems highly everything will have been categorised yet, there's still a lot to be sorted out with the Estate, and so maybe they haven't been able to plan a proper release schedule at this point.

MIRvmn said:

We are the only ones willing to pay a lot for Prince's unreleased music, why not release it on a site similar to Npgmusicclub and let us purchase unreleased albums, rehearsals etc? One release a year is a joke considering how much music there is in the vaults.

TheEnglishGent said:

Shit news. Doesn’t make sense. The money is here now, in our pockets. The money won’t be there in ten or twenty years. Half of us will be dead. By all means do one release a year but at the very least we need an online streaming service with the music available to listen to.

I 2nd that! To Tyka

thedance said:

I just need the slave to release his masters....

Master boxsets 1978-1988 right this kind, to begin with:


Every album with a bonus-disk w./ B-sides, extended versions, outtakes, demos etc..


Now THAT would make me happy, again..

Pretty please, make the Prince community HAPPY... better soon than never..

is it possible theres a struggle as to WHO gets to release the old CDs with bonus tracks????

why else would they not want to make a lot of money....

thedance said:

the soon to be released recording 1983, I already own Purple Rush boxset II

Maybe that's why my mood is bad.. what a weak weak recording... ok just imho..


Damn.

Patience hon'

udo said:

leecaldon said:

Look at all of Bart's examples. Adn there's no need for it to disrupt mainstream releases. A 1 CD version is released for the casual fan, and a multi-disc set for the hardcore. Purple Rain had an expanded edition.

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Sure, so why is WB releasing a single disc with 35 minutes of audio?

Not even a full CD of audio?

Or a double CD?

They did not announce that 12 disc box set yet.

Maybe to please the vinyl crowd?

I came to the conclusion to take what the sisters of Prince say with a grain salt. Some of it seems so far fetch. I do not think that these socalled family members are living in the real world when it came down to what Prince wanted to do with his music and how the fans are going to like what is presented to them.

JorisE73 said:

luv2tha99s said:

The article does state that Sony will release live and non-album tracks at least there's that. Still disappointing tho.

Let's hope Sony doesn't pull the same crap they did with MJ by putting out songs done by someone who impersonates him and label it as 'Prince'. Why the hell did they choose shady Sony for Prince's music???

They don't have too do what they did with MJ.

Prince has an abundance of completed songs, MJ didn't even though they boasted

about how MJ has all this unreleased material which he really didn't.

I think they were trying to put him on a musical pedestal like Prince as far as musicianship

and plus they know they can't pull that shit on Prince fans because we are one of the most knowledgeable fanbases out there.

Maybe I'm alone in this but I'm not really seeing the problem here.

We get an album per year of unreleased stuff, some of which may even be double albums and/or some live stuff; maybe accompanied by a Blu-Ray or something. Not sure how this is the end of the world as far as handling the vault is concerned.

If they just dump a 10 CD box set on us, it's going to largely be a one and done thing and likely cost prohibitive for most aside from the die hard fans, who will be the only ones that will splurge on that level. It might make sense to set up a seperate paid download site for those of us that will empty their wallets for anything and offer stuff on there as a way of appeasing the base and providing another revenue source, but that sould be complimentary I feel.

Problem is, everyone likes something different and prefers a different style of Prince music, as we've seen over decades of internet discussion. Some like pop songs, others funk or rock, and others still the more experimental material. Many love the ballads. There will be no pleasing everybody and reaching a consensus on what material is "worthy" of release is going to be next to impossible so this approach seems reasonable to me.

The die hards can get what they want anyway, or already have it, as we all know. We could get 50 different orgers to listen to this stuff and complie it and get 50 entirely different collections.

TheEnglishGent said:

Shit news. Doesn’t make sense. The money is here now, in our pockets. The money won’t be there in ten or twenty years. Half of us will be dead. By all means do one release a year but at the very least we need an online streaming service with the music available to listen to.

So true. They should take a look at the prices for Elvis memorabilia, which have been dropping for the past few years as his fans die off. We're not going to be around forever.

Robbajobba said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Shit news. Doesn’t make sense. The money is here now, in our pockets. The money won’t be there in ten or twenty years. Half of us will be dead. By all means do one release a year but at the very least we need an online streaming service with the music available to listen to.

So true. They should take a look at the prices for Elvis memorabilia, which have been dropping for the past few years as his fans die off. We're not going to be around forever.

will the fans who jump on board be willing to pay what the old psycho fans will??? no...their loss

Robbajobba said:

BlueShakooo said:

Robbajobba said:

So true. They should take a look at the prices for Elvis memorabilia, which have been dropping for the past few years as his fans die off. We're not going to be around forever.

TRUE! Here's an article: https://www.theguardian.c...g-in-price [Edited 9/4/18 13:02pm]

Not surprising. Kind of sad I guess but while Elvis was a monument to his contemporaries and a kind of already outdated but nevertheless mighty pop icon to my generation, what can he be to people who were born one or 2 decades after he passed? I was born in 76 and I've never know a single person my age who owned an Elvis record, not even a greatest hits compilation. Hell, I haven't known many to own a Beatles record for that matter. Prince's iconic status may last long enough for the Estate to be able to sell a release a year for a century, but those people willing to spend big bucks to purchase anything from the vault, us, half of us will be gone in 20 years, and the rest in 40.

elvis material dried up mostly...prince never will...but how can they think music fans in 15-20 years will care about him the way his fanatics do NOW

databank said:

I would take what she claims with a grain of salt......she is not playing with a full deck, and was even likely complicit in Prince's murder, which has been my gut feeling from the get go.

But if that is true, then that really blows for us long time fans, we need Anthologies released every year, not 35 minutes of lord know what............sure, it will be great to have that new Piano album when it comes out, but, the very fact, that out of all the things they could have released, THIS is what we get? It doesn't give me much hope that anyone is thinking clearly over there.

leadline said:

I would take what she claims with a grain of salt......she is not playing with a full deck, and was even likely complicit in Prince's murder, which has been my gut feeling from the get go.

Prince wasn't murdered. Please keep idiotic conspiracy theories confined to the idiotic conspiracy theories threads on this board, and possibly even better to the idiotic conspiracy theories boards outside of the Org.

And please do not throw accusations at people like that. Tyka would actually be legally entitled to sue you for defamation for saying that, and I would if I was her. Just sayin'

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Nothing personal against you, I just don't like people throwing accusations without proof in general. Maybe you will understand the harm you're doing when someone goes online, calls you by your real, legal name and claims you've murdered or raped someone when, in fact, you haven't.

And I also despise (and fear) conspiracy theories and the harm they're doing to our society, when claims become proof of guilt, beliefs become science and opinions become facts.

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So please, just don't. Thank you.

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Peace.

databank said:

BlueShakooo said:

databank said:

Prince wasn't murdered. Please keep idiotic conspiracy theories confined to the idiotic conspiracy theories threads on this board, and possibly even better to the idiotic conspiracy theories boards outside of the Org.

And please do not throw accusations at people like that. Tyka would actually be legally entitled to sue you for defamation for saying that, and I would if I was her. Just sayin'

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Nothing personal against you, I just don't like people throwing accusations without proof in general. Maybe you will understand the harm you're doing when someone goes online, calls you by your real, legal name and claims you've murdered or raped someone when, in fact, you haven't.

And I also despise (and fear) conspiracy theories and the harm they're doing to our society, when claims become proof of guilt, beliefs become science and opinions become facts.

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So please, just don't. Thank you.

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Peace.

Well said, databank!

Glad to see I'm not alone to feel that way

databank said:

leadline said:

I would take what she claims with a grain of salt......she is not playing with a full deck, and was even likely complicit in Prince's murder, which has been my gut feeling from the get go.

Prince wasn't murdered. Please keep idiotic conspiracy theories confined to the idiotic conspiracy theories threads on this board, and possibly even better to the idiotic conspiracy theories boards outside of the Org.

And please do not throw accusations at people like that. Tyka would actually be legally entitled to sue you for defamation for saying that, and I would if I was her. Just sayin'

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Nothing personal against you, I just don't like people throwing accusations without proof in general. Maybe you will understand the harm you're doing when someone goes online, calls you by your real, legal name and claims you've murdered or raped someone when, in fact, you haven't.

And I also despise (and fear) conspiracy theories and the harm they're doing to our society, when claims become proof of guilt, beliefs become science and opinions become facts.

.

So please, just don't. Thank you.

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Peace.

There was a murder investigation ongoing for quite some time, and it is not becuase I am the only one that suspected that to be the case. It is closed yes, but if you want to tell me this is all clean cut and things don't seem out of order, that is your perogative to do so. Some people get upset about this topic because it is a coping mechanism, they simply cannot process it, which is fine, we all have our ways of coping. There is however no evidence to prove he wasn't murdered, just lack of evidence to give it that label. So no, not a conspiracy theory. Carver county doesn't open murder investigations based on conspiracy theories.

Much love to you too my friend, you are one of the posters I have always enjoyed the most over my decades here.

[Edited 9/6/18 0:30am]

leadline said:

sonshine said:

leadline said:

There was a murder investigation ongoing for quite some time, and it is not becuase I am the only one that suspected that to be the case. It is closed yes, but if you want to tell me this is all clean cut and things don't seem out of order, that is your perogative to do so. Some people get upset about this topic because it is a coping mechanism, they simply cannot process it, which is fine, we all have our ways of coping. There is however no evidence to prove he wasn't murdered, just lack of evidence to give it that label. So no, not a conspiracy theory. Carver county doesn't open murder investigations based on conspiracy theories.

Much love to you too my friend, you are one of the posters I have always enjoyed the most over my decades here.

[Edited 9/6/18 0:30am]

Good lawd, you were kindly asked to stop. Everything else aside (what databank said was spot on btw) you are way off-topic. So annoying. Just sayin'. I love this thread tho! Such great points. The only thing I will add is that the estate is probably still far from being settled and likely no one really knows wth is truly going to happen. My biggest fear is that if they don't run out of money before they even have the money distributed (I know, I'm oversimplifying the estate affairs), they won't be able to generate enough money to remain in business with Tyka's business model for lack of a better term.

Sonshine, if responding to a post gets you upset, or a specific topic, by all means, don't read them. Regardless of whether you agree with my point of view or not, that is what discussion is all about........opinion, debate, disagreement, etc.

I agree with you, the estate being settled is probably far from over, when money is involved, things tend to get nasty, and human nature, or, the worst of human nature, comes to the surface and presents itself. I think though from the standpoint of having enough money to keep operations going that they will be fine. If they were overly concerned with that prospect, we would have at least 6+ releases already to keep the funds rollin in. Anyway, I am just going to keep the faith that things will work out for everyone and the purple conveyor belt will start rolling in full force.

Peace

[Edited 9/6/18 1:37am]

Robbajobba said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Shit news. Doesn’t make sense. The money is here now, in our pockets. The money won’t be there in ten or twenty years. Half of us will be dead. By all means do one release a year but at the very least we need an online streaming service with the music available to listen to.

So true. They should take a look at the prices for Elvis memorabilia, which have been dropping for the past few years as his fans die off. We're not going to be around forever.

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Which was already happening with Prince stuff loong ago, thanks to Prince alienating a significant section of his fans by a) sabotaging his own career by giving substandard records to WBR, b) suing fans, c) releasing substandard records post-WBR, etc.

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Prince never "trained" his fans to regularly spend money on him. An archival program would have done so via a steady release schedule of expanded and remastered releases, for instance. Instead, both album releases and tours/concerts became almost spur of the moment events, with little advance warning, and his back catalog became unavailable soon after release. Offical websites appeared and disappeared, even official videos posted on YouTube could be yanked within days, hours or even minutes.

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All of this cultivated a culture where fans went looking for unofficial sources for all that, even legit releases which were hard to come by.

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Good luck reversing that. And certainly by boasting about his vast vault while limiting the flow of releases. All you need to do is look at the meager enthusiasm for Piano & A Microphone 1983 even on this forum to see how well that is going.

EmmaMcG said:

I was born in 1990 and I own several Elvis records. Aside from that though, I think you're overestimating Prince's "iconic status".

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That's indeed the big problem. Back in the 1990s I knew several people who'd buy anything released on PPR or NPGR, plus a lot of bootlegs. They've stopped doing that long ago.

BlueShakooo said:

https://officialpaisleypark.com

Who needs Prince-recordings, when you can have purple "Paisley Park"-socks for 12 $?

Or a "Paisley Park"-umbrella for 40 $?

Ow c'm'on, it's "color-changing"!

if piano and mic 83 doesnt sell well....how will that affect future releases?

leadline said:

databank said:

Prince wasn't murdered. Please keep idiotic conspiracy theories confined to the idiotic conspiracy theories threads on this board, and possibly even better to the idiotic conspiracy theories boards outside of the Org.

And please do not throw accusations at people like that. Tyka would actually be legally entitled to sue you for defamation for saying that, and I would if I was her. Just sayin'

.

Nothing personal against you, I just don't like people throwing accusations without proof in general. Maybe you will understand the harm you're doing when someone goes online, calls you by your real, legal name and claims you've murdered or raped someone when, in fact, you haven't.

And I also despise (and fear) conspiracy theories and the harm they're doing to our society, when claims become proof of guilt, beliefs become science and opinions become facts.

.

So please, just don't. Thank you.

.

Peace.

There was a murder investigation ongoing for quite some time, and it is not becuase I am the only one that suspected that to be the case. It is closed yes, but if you want to tell me this is all clean cut and things don't seem out of order, that is your perogative to do so. Some people get upset about this topic because it is a coping mechanism, they simply cannot process it, which is fine, we all have our ways of coping. There is however no evidence to prove he wasn't murdered, just lack of evidence to give it that label. So no, not a conspiracy theory. Carver county doesn't open murder investigations based on conspiracy theories.

Much love to you too my friend, you are one of the posters I have always enjoyed the most over my decades here.

[Edited 9/6/18 0:30am]

We're cool. Disagreement over claims or condemnations of one's claims does not imply condemnation of the person making the claims in my world.

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The sentence "there is however no evidence to prove he wasn't murdered" followed by the idea that "therefore he was murdered" (a claim you made without ambiguity in your previous post) is, however, a fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/..._ignorance

This is the reason why our justice system cannot consider the absence of proof that one isn't guilty as proof that one is.

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Besides, if I am not mistaken the investigation was about how Prince obtained the pills, given that he apparently obtained them through illegal channels. It's a long stretch between looking for a drugs dealer who may have accidentally and indirectly caused one's death by selling them drugs that may have been unapproprately labeled or overused (involuntary manslaughter, a category of second degree murder), and assuming that such an event was the result of a plot for assassination, with the intent of murder (first degree murder), again something you stated without ambiguity in your comment about Tyka.

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And once again, while freedom of speech is guaranteed in the United States and most democratic countries, there are certain limitations to it, one being defamation.

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A few basic principles that, I believe, need to be remembered by all.

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The difficulty to cope with Prince's death that you evoke isn't the reason why some can't accept murder theories. The reason we won't accept it is that there was an investigation and that we believe the authorities to be more competent than amateur detectives investigating things they know nothing about behind a computer screen in their bedroom. The difficulty to cope with Prince's death is precisely the reason why some other fans fantasize about murder stories and conspiracies. Prince died a stupid, meaningless and accidental death but some people need meaning to get closure, but in the end precisely do not get closure because they believe justice wasn't served when there's no justice to be served (well, there are illegal drug dealers, but this is life, many people buy drugs sometimes, including many people in this community. Drug dealers do not kill people on purpose by selling them drugs, they actually need their customers alive). Another reason for believing in conspiracy theories is that people find life horribly meaningless and boring in the post-modern absence of religion or political ideologies, so believing in contemporary fairy tales compensate for that, making the world more interesting while giving a higher meaning to all things. But the harsh truth is that the Earth isn't flat, that there are no illuminaties and Prince died a stupid, meaningless and accidental death. Hell, many people's lives are stupid, meaningless and accidental. It's a pity, but it's what it is. Those things happen. Prince's life, however, was everything but stupid, meaningless and accidental, and this is what should matter to his fans.

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Peace

[Edited 9/6/18 21:54pm]

luvsexy4all said:

if piano and mic 83 doesnt sell well....how will that affect future releases?

not at all