Musician9 said:

SoulAlive said:

That same year,I read in a magazine that Prince's next movie would be titled Prince Of Darkness and the Morning Star.I'm assuming that this was a tentative title for what became Under The Cherry Moon.

My friend told me that title and I thought he was talking the piss. Also I recall MTV saying Vanessa Williams was rumored to be part of the Dream Factory movie.

yep,I also heard the Vaness Williams rumor too.Supposedly,Prince was fascinated with her and wanted her to be in one of his movies.

SoulAlive said:

Musician9 said:

SoulAlive said: My friend told me that title and I thought he was talking the piss. Also I recall MTV saying Vanessa Williams was rumored to be part of the Dream Factory movie.

yep,I also heard the Vaness Williams rumor too.Supposedly,Prince was fascinated with her and wanted her to be in one of his movies.

Among the hundreds of bad decisions he made in his career, firing his management at the end of the 80's was his first truly damaging mistake. Boney's right, Fargnoli and Co. kept him in the press in a good way, and had they been around for P's deal in '92, chances are things would've been fine and kept on rolling with proper distribution and fanfare, no silli name change and slave marketing ad nauseum. That's when he lost me for a bit, at first I thought it was a Ziggy Stardust altar-ego, then to discover it was just stupidity and petulance cos we all love it when multi-millionaires bitch about getting shafted over earnings. After that, the roller coaster didn't come to a stop until 2004ish when he ws fortunate enough to have that year coincide with a certain album's anniversary. But just imagine what the 90's and early 00's could have been...

SoulAlive said:

Musician9 said:

SoulAlive said: My friend told me that title and I thought he was talking the piss. Also I recall MTV saying Vanessa Williams was rumored to be part of the Dream Factory movie.

yep,I also heard the Vaness Williams rumor too.Supposedly,Prince was fascinated with her and wanted her to be in one of his movies.

I could see that, she was his type if he ever had a type, he liked lightskinned women or latina/arabic looking women. She was probably a better singer than he was used to having around, but not by much.

I wonder if maybe Prince rushed into movies too quickly.It’s obvious that the massive success of Purple Rain really convinced him to “go Hollywood” Even though I like parts of UTCM,I’m not sure if that was the ideal project to follow-up Purple Rain with.He should have taken more time to find a better movie.And he should have never started directing movies himself.It’s telling that his two best movies (Purple Rain and the Sign O’The Times concert film) were both directed by Albert Magnoli.

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SoulAlive said:

I wonder if maybe Prince rushed into movies too quickly.It’s obvious that the massive success of Purple Rain really convinced him to “go Hollywood” Even though I like parts of UTCM,I’m not sure if that was the ideal project to follow-up Purple Rain with.He should have taken more time to find a better movie.And he should have never started directing movies himself.It’s telling that his two best movies (Purple Rain and the Sign O’The Times concert film) were both directed by Albert Magnoli. . [Edited 8/31/18 16:09pm]

i always felt he had a great visual sense just based off the shots in parade, his problem was he couldn't listen to anyone, you know a control freak? control freaks want you to do all the listening and do no listening in return, lots of them out there, and a lot of times they hurt themselves with their addiction to control.

PeteSilas said:

prince couldn't have played him though, robert was way darker and had a totally different look.

Well, it couldn't be any worse than all the whites they had play native Americans in the old Hollywood westerns!! He might have been able to pull it off under the right direction. Would have been a better follow-up movie than what he picked.

Musician9 said:

SoulAlive said:

yep,I also heard the Vaness Williams rumor too.Supposedly,Prince was fascinated with her and wanted her to be in one of his movies.

Among the hundreds of bad decisions he made in his career, firing his management at the end of the 80's was his first truly damaging mistake. Boney's right, Fargnoli and Co. kept him in the press in a good way, and had they been around for P's deal in '92, chances are things would've been fine and kept on rolling with proper distribution and fanfare, no silli name change and slave marketing ad nauseum. That's when he lost me for a bit, at first I thought it was a Ziggy Stardust altar-ego, then to discover it was just stupidity and petulance cos we all love it when multi-millionaires bitch about getting shafted over earnings. After that, the roller coaster didn't come to a stop until 2004ish when he ws fortunate enough to have that year coincide with a certain album's anniversary. But just imagine what the 90's and early 00's could have been...

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Having been a Prince fan since 1978, I respected Prince's stance and enjoyed much of the music from 1992 - 2004. It was one of Prince's most productive eras. There were lots of new music, live performances (concerts and tv appearances), and videos. It was a time that I greatly enjoyed, and The Rainbow Children and Musicology were near perfect next phases.

I remember hearing about this

Seahorsie said:

PeteSilas said:

prince couldn't have played him though, robert was way darker and had a totally different look.

Well, it couldn't be any worse than all the whites they had play native Americans in the old Hollywood westerns!! He might have been able to pull it off under the right direction. Would have been a better follow-up movie than what he picked.

what's interesting to me is the allure Johnson had for him, i don't get that. Rural, old time, unknown in his lifetime musician before the modern era of rock music, maybe that's what he wanted, I don't know. Hendrix was interesting too, because he was always distancing himself from the comparisons, denying and outright lying about the influence. Why would he want to play him and feed the comparisons that he didn't seem to like.