The Estate Discussion

Reply #31 posted 08/25/18 3:11pm

206Michelle

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

The Estate is now filing charges against Dr. S. Maybe just maybe they'll get the others too. See bolded.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/family-late-musician-prince-files-suit-doctor/story?id=57371412&__twitter_impression=true

The family of the late musician Prince, who died of a fentanyl overdose in 2016, is suing a doctor who the family says failed to treat his addiction and provided him with narcotics without a proper prescription, ABC News has learned.

The lawsuit, which was filed in Minnesota district court Friday morning, alleges that Dr. Michael T. Schulenberg, the Twin Cities physician who treated Prince twice in the days prior to his death, failed to properly treat the musician as he was suffering from an opioid addiction.

He failed to appropriately evaluate, diagnose, treat and counsel Prince for his recognizable opioid addiction, and further failed to take appropriate and reasonable steps to prevent the foreseeably fatal result of that addiction,” reads the lawsuit, a copy of which can be read below. “These departures from the standard of acceptable medical practice had a substantial part in bringing about Prince’s death.”

According to John Goetz, the attorney who is representing Prince’s family in its ongoing suit against the Illinois hospital that treated Prince days prior to his death, the lawsuit brings the fight for accountability back to the musician’s home state.

“Prince lived in Minnesota all his life and passed away here,” Goetz told ABC News. “So we always thought his family's lawsuit belonged in Minnesota.”

According to Goetz, the family intends to eventually dismiss the previous lawsuit filed in Illinois against the hospital, and proceed with this new action in Minnesota, which could itself eventually be expanded to include other parties.

“The Minnesota lawsuit is against all parties whom we now believe share legal responsibility for Prince's death,” Goetz said. “But it is possible that we will identify and add other parties as we move forward with the case.”

So Prince asked for help from Dr. S. And he didn’t provide it? I mean you can’t force treatment on someone. The current Administration wants the death penalty for fentanyl dealers. Good.

Is the Estate stating then that Prince did have an addiction?

It sounds like they do recognize that he had an addiction, which is appropriate given that the evidence from Carver County’s investigation into Prince’s death makes it clear that he had a serious addiction to opioid painkillers.

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Reply #32 posted 08/27/18 8:06pm

nelcp777

206Michelle said:
PennyPurple said:

Is the Estate stating then that Prince did have an addiction?

It sounds like they do recognize that he had an addiction, which is appropriate given that the evidence from Carver County’s investigation into Prince’s death makes it clear that he had a serious addiction to opioid painkillers.

Is Kirk getting a free pass? He was party to the pills Dr. S wrote for Prince in Kirk's name.

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Reply #33 posted 08/27/18 8:34pm

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nelcp777 said:

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

Is the Estate stating then that Prince did have an addiction?

It sounds like they do recognize that he had an addiction, which is appropriate given that the evidence from Carver County’s investigation into Prince’s death makes it clear that he had a serious addiction to opioid painkillers.

Is Kirk getting a free pass? He was party to the pills Dr. S wrote for Prince in Kirk's name.

They will eventually add Kirk but he doesn't have money and the family is looking for deep pockets.

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Reply #34 posted 08/27/18 10:23pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
nelcp777 said:

Is Kirk getting a free pass? He was party to the pills Dr. S wrote for Prince in Kirk's name.

They will eventually add Kirk but he doesn't have money and the family is looking for deep pockets.

Hi ISaidLifeisJustaGame:

Will Phaedra be added as well? I assume that if they are added, they will compelled to talk?

Or perhaps, plead the 5th?

I thought the family was only looking to sue healthcare providers who "failed to assist" Prince, not Kirk/Phaedra? Again, deep pockets?

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Reply #35 posted 08/28/18 4:49am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

They will eventually add Kirk but he doesn't have money and the family is looking for deep pockets.

Even though he is working at PP and is invited to play at the After Dark parties?

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Reply #36 posted 08/28/18 4:59am

nelcp777	PennyPurple said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: They will eventually add Kirk but he doesn't have money and the family is looking for deep pockets. Even though he is working at PP and is invited to play at the After Dark parties? So it is about money and not accountability? Edited to say: Hell, they can garnish his check! [Edited 8/28/18 7:23am]
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Reply #37 posted 08/28/18 8:38am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

Is the Estate stating then that Prince did have an addiction?

It sounds like they do recognize that he had an addiction, which is appropriate given that the evidence from Carver County’s investigation into Prince’s death makes it clear that he had a serious addiction to opioid painkillers.

Is Kirk getting a free pass? He was party to the pills Dr. S wrote for Prince in Kirk's name.

They will eventually add Kirk but he doesn't have money and the family is looking for deep pockets.

So why is he still around PP and touring with the NPG?

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Reply #38 posted 08/28/18 3:59pm

Lovejunky	rogifan said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: They will eventually add Kirk but he doesn't have money and the family is looking for deep pockets. So why is he still around PP and touring with the NPG? Because he, like Prince, had some kind faustian pact. ..Obviously... Jeez Rogifan !!!!
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Reply #39 posted 08/28/18 7:12pm

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rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

They will eventually add Kirk but he doesn't have money and the family is looking for deep pockets.

So why is he still around PP and touring with the NPG?

He did not go on the last NPG tour overseas and is not in the latest band photos.
Personal injury attorneys usually take 1/3 of any judgment. They have no interest in garnishing wages. They are looking for deep pockets. Something happened to cause them to dismiss the lawsuit against the hospital in Moline, and now go after Dr S.

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Reply #40 posted 08/28/18 7:17pm

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Sounds like a bunch of messy mess, if they just dropped the lawsuit of the hospital then they had not real reason to go there in the first place, which means they can just as easily do not have a real reason to go after the doctor. Grasping at straws?

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Reply #41 posted 08/28/18 7:36pm

nelcp777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
rogifan said:
So why is he still around PP and touring with the NPG?
He did not go on the last NPG tour overseas and is not in the latest band photos. Personal injury attorneys usually take 1/3 of any judgment. They have no interest in garnishing wages. They are looking for deep pockets. Something happened to cause them to dismiss the lawsuit against the hospital in Moline, and now go after Dr S.

I was trying to be silly about the garnishing of Kirk J. I understand the deep pocket logic, not to mention, I am sure Dr. S has malpractice insurance.

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Reply #42 posted 08/28/18 7:44pm

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KJ was just at PP After Dark party last weekend, on stage.

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Reply #43 posted 08/29/18 7:49am

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PennyPurple said:

KJ was just at PP After Dark party last weekend, on stage.

That leads me to believe they know Kirk was not involved in getting the fentanyl.

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Reply #44 posted 08/29/18 8:43am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

So why is he still around PP and touring with the NPG?

Is that not Kirk in this photo?

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Reply #45 posted 08/29/18 8:55am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PennyPurple said:

KJ was just at PP After Dark party last weekend, on stage.

That leads me to believe they know Kirk was not involved in getting the fentanyl.

Seems to me (some) fans want someone to blame and Kirk is a natural target because of his role in the Prince universe. In my opinion there’s no way he’d still be allowed at PP or working with the NPG if there was credible evidence he was involved in obtaining illegal pills Prince. Outside of that is there anything they could really go after him for?

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Reply #46 posted 08/29/18 9:30am

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rogifan said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
That leads me to believe they know Kirk was not involved in getting the fentanyl.
Seems to me (some) fans want someone to blame and Kirk is a natural target because of his role in the Prince universe. In my opinion there’s no way he’d still be allowed at PP or working with the NPG if there was credible evidence he was involved in obtaining illegal pills Prince. Outside of that is there anything they could really go after him for?

He did. He got pills illegally from the Dr and gave them to Prince. He had the Drs. write the scripts in his name. Correct?

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Reply #47 posted 08/29/18 11:25am

nelcp777

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Seems to me (some) fans want someone to blame and Kirk is a natural target because of his role in the Prince universe. In my opinion there’s no way he’d still be allowed at PP or working with the NPG if there was credible evidence he was involved in obtaining illegal pills Prince. Outside of that is there anything they could really go after him for?

He did. He got pills illegally from the Dr and gave them to Prince. He had the Drs. write the scripts in his name. Correct?

That is what I thought. Dr. S was fined for doing this, $30k. Or was I wrong?

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Reply #48 posted 08/29/18 12:23pm

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nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

He did. He got pills illegally from the Dr and gave them to Prince. He had the Drs. write the scripts in his name. Correct?

That is what I thought. Dr. S was fined for doing this, $30k. Or was I wrong?

Yes, Dr S was fined, nothing happened to KJ.

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Reply #49 posted 08/29/18 12:29pm

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
That leads me to believe they know Kirk was not involved in getting the fentanyl.

Seems to me (some) fans want someone to blame and Kirk is a natural target because of his role in the Prince universe. In my opinion there’s no way he’d still be allowed at PP or working with the NPG if there was credible evidence he was involved in obtaining illegal pills Prince. Outside of that is there anything they could really go after him for?

He did. He got pills illegally from the Dr and gave them to Prince. He had the Drs. write the scripts in his name. Correct?

Can they go after Kirk if it was the doctor who wrote the script?

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Reply #50 posted 08/29/18 12:39pm

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rogifan said:
PennyPurple said:

He did. He got pills illegally from the Dr and gave them to Prince. He had the Drs. write the scripts in his name. Correct?

Can they go after Kirk if it was the doctor who wrote the script?

It's illegal to give your prescription meds to somebody else. Kirk got them in his name and gave them to Prince to take.

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Reply #51 posted 08/29/18 2:14pm

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rogifan said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
He did not go on the last NPG tour overseas and is not in the latest band photos. Personal injury attorneys usually take 1/3 of any judgment. They have no interest in garnishing wages. They are looking for deep pockets. Something happened to cause them to dismiss the lawsuit against the hospital in Moline, and now go after Dr S.
Is that not Kirk in this photo?

Side subject...isn't this the event that supposed to be streamed somekind of way, or was that cancelled?

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Reply #52 posted 08/29/18 5:00pm

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onlyforaminute said:

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
He did not go on the last NPG tour overseas and is not in the latest band photos. Personal injury attorneys usually take 1/3 of any judgment. They have no interest in garnishing wages. They are looking for deep pockets. Something happened to cause them to dismiss the lawsuit against the hospital in Moline, and now go after Dr S.

Is that not Kirk in this photo?

Side subject...isn't this the event that supposed to be streamed somekind of way, or was that cancelled?

Nope not nuts, this is half the info I remembered reading. I'll find the other half elsewhere.

https://www.google.com/am...-interview

The Sept. 13 concert, “Celebrating Prince,” will be live-streamed as a pay-per-view event by Live Alliance,
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Reply #53 posted 08/29/18 5:24pm

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

He did. He got pills illegally from the Dr and gave them to Prince. He had the Drs. write the scripts in his name. Correct?

Can they go after Kirk if it was the doctor who wrote the script?

It's illegal to give your prescription meds to somebody else. Kirk got them in his name and gave them to Prince to take.

But people do it. I remember when my mom was having some shoulder/neck pain that wasn’t going away. My brother-in-law gave her a bottle of Vicodin he had left over from after a surgery he had. She took one and got so sick off of it she threw the rest away. Not exactly the same situation but I’ll bet it’s common.

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Reply #54 posted 08/30/18 6:08pm

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rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Is that not Kirk in this photo?

That is not Kirk. That is Damon.

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Reply #55 posted 08/31/18 8:38am

rogifan	ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: rogifan said: Is that not Kirk in this photo? That is not Kirk. That is Damon. The guy in the sleeveless vest with the tattoo isn’t Kirk? Paisley Park is in your heart #PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #56 posted 08/31/18 2:27pm

rogifan	According to the Star Tribune, a group of fans are gathering signatures for a petition they will present to federal and state law enforcement demanding a grand jury investigation into his death. http://m.startribune.com/...492140331/ Good grief, stop it. Let the man Rest In Peace already. Paisley Park is in your heart #PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #57 posted 09/01/18 4:54pm

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rogifan said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
That is not Kirk. That is Damon.
The guy in the sleeveless vest with the tattoo isn’t Kirk?

No, it is not Kirk. It is Damon Dickson.

Kirk isnt that tall nor that thin.

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Reply #58 posted 09/02/18 5:48am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
That is not Kirk. That is Damon.

The guy in the sleeveless vest with the tattoo isn’t Kirk?

No, it is not Kirk. It is Damon Dickson.

Kirk isnt that tall nor that thin.

OK. Kind of look similar. Anyway Kirk is still listed on the NPG website as member of the core configuration of the band.

https://www.newpowergener...t/about-us

I also see Kirk is part of something called RefreshFitness. Looks like he might have been doing this while he was still working with/for Prince.

http://www.refreshfitness.../#trainers

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Reply #59 posted 09/02/18 4:51pm

LilaLiebe

rogifan said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No, it is not Kirk. It is Damon Dickson.

Kirk isnt that tall nor that thin.

OK. Kind of look similar. Anyway Kirk is still listed on the NPG website as member of the core configuration of the band. https://www.newpowergener...t/about-us I also see Kirk is part of something called RefreshFitness. Looks like he might have been doing this while he was still working with/for Prince. http://www.refreshfitness.../#trainers

I thought that Kirk worked for many years, even up to the time of Prince's passing, for the Lifetime Fitness that was located near Paisley. When did that association end? It was my understanding that Kirk's employment at Lifetime Fitness was why they (Paisley Park) would use Lifetime's parking lot for large events at PP when lots of parking was needed and they'd utilize a shuttle bus between PP and Lifetime, and that the plane Prince was on that night it landed in Moline was actually owned by Lifetime Fitness (or one of that Lifetime Fitness' franchise owners or something). At any rate, it ws my understanding that Kirk was very involved with that Lifetime gym and worked there for quite awhile and while he was also employed by Prince.

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