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Thread started 08/17/18 1:16pm

Latin

Article: How PRINCE reinvented the album release in the noughties and mid-90s

Check out the article published by New Musical Express entitled "How Prince reinvented the album release in the noughties and mid-90s":

http://amp.timeinc.net/nm...0s-2367880
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Reply #1 posted 08/18/18 10:01am

nosajd

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Good article, thanks for sharng
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Reply #2 posted 08/18/18 12:30pm

sebastian

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Could somebody please explain this:

"Understandably, given the success of ‘Crystal Ball’, Prince made a digital version of his 1999 album ‘Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic’ available online. The version available from his website included remastered elements not available on the physical edition. Yes: Prince was a digital native before anyone even knew what that meant."

... because I can't remember that something like that happened.

I can't find any Information about that at http://www.princevault.com either.


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Reply #3 posted 08/18/18 1:18pm

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sebastian said:

Could somebody please explain this:

"Understandably, given the success of ‘Crystal Ball’, Prince made a digital version of his 1999 album ‘Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic’ available online. The version available from his website included remastered elements not available on the physical edition. Yes: Prince was a digital native before anyone even knew what that meant."

... because I can't remember that something like that happened.

I can't find any Information about that at http://www.princevault.com either.



I don't remember any digital download of Rave Un2. There was the remix album, Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic.

RIP sad
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Reply #4 posted 08/18/18 1:37pm

TKO

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sebastian said:

Could somebody please explain this:

"Understandably, given the success of ‘Crystal Ball’, Prince made a digital version of his 1999 album ‘Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic’ available online. The version available from his website included remastered elements not available on the physical edition. Yes: Prince was a digital native before anyone even knew what that meant."

... because I can't remember that something like that happened.

I can't find any Information about that at http://www.princevault.com either.


They must be talking about Rave In2

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Reply #5 posted 08/20/18 12:31am

sebastian

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TKO said:

sebastian said:

Could somebody please explain this:

"Understandably, given the success of ‘Crystal Ball’, Prince made a digital version of his 1999 album ‘Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic’ available online. The version available from his website included remastered elements not available on the physical edition. Yes: Prince was a digital native before anyone even knew what that meant."

... because I can't remember that something like that happened.

I can't find any Information about that at http://www.princevault.com either.


They must be talking about Rave In2

Well, if you would read the article you would know that they are talking about "Rave In2" too.

The information about "Rave In2" is just not correct or we are missing something...

[Edited 8/20/18 0:31am]

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Reply #6 posted 08/20/18 3:17am

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It's just someone in the FAILING NME trying to pass off their quickly google'd prince facts as actual knowledge in order to meet their blog deadline.

[Edited 8/28/18 5:13am]

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Reply #7 posted 08/27/18 9:45pm

Latin

nosajd said:

Good article, thanks for sharng

You are very welcome. smile
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Reply #8 posted 08/28/18 5:11am

leecaldon

sebastian said:

TKO said:

They must be talking about Rave In2

Well, if you would read the article you would know that they are talking about "Rave In2" too.

The information about "Rave In2" is just not correct or we are missing something...

[Edited 8/20/18 0:31am]

Yes, they've literally just made that up.

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Reply #9 posted 08/28/18 6:02am

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RAVE IN2 was a physical mail order release for premium NPGMC members only.

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[Edited 8/28/18 6:04am]
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Reply #10 posted 08/28/18 7:10am

leecaldon

OperatingThetan said:

RAVE IN2 was a physical mail order release for premium NPGMC members only. * [Edited 8/28/18 6:04am]

Yes, that's what the article says. It's Rave Un2 where they've just made up stuff.

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Reply #11 posted 08/28/18 7:19am

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leecaldon said:



OperatingThetan said:


RAVE IN2 was a physical mail order release for premium NPGMC members only. * [Edited 8/28/18 6:04am]


Yes, that's what the article says. It's Rave Un2 where they've just made up stuff.



They seem to have conflated the two separate editions.
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Reply #12 posted 08/28/18 12:35pm

leecaldon

OperatingThetan said:

leecaldon said:

Yes, that's what the article says. It's Rave Un2 where they've just made up stuff.

They seem to have conflated the two separate editions.

Well, not even that. Rave In2 was only released as a CD and sent out by mail, as you said. "...his website included remastered elements...". Nah, it didn't.

[Edited 8/28/18 12:36pm]

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Reply #13 posted 08/28/18 8:34pm

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There is actually a lot of made up stuff in that article. It would be interesting to take the blurb about Crystal Ball and edit it so it fits with what really happened for us who were there and experienced it.

There is no mention of Crystal Ball selling at Best Buy and other outlets. And there were ads taken out at least for Best Buy.

The Rave blurb is all wrong. The Rave in2 blurb looks to be correct.

The Rainbow Children blurb says that Prince made changes to the album after feedback from the fans at the listening sessions. Really?!
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Reply #14 posted 08/29/18 5:24pm

leecaldon

floralelephants said:

There is actually a lot of made up stuff in that article. It would be interesting to take the blurb about Crystal Ball and edit it so it fits with what really happened for us who were there and experienced it. There is no mention of Crystal Ball selling at Best Buy and other outlets. And there were ads taken out at least for Best Buy. The Rave blurb is all wrong. The Rave in2 blurb looks to be correct. The Rainbow Children blurb says that Prince made changes to the album after feedback from the fans at the listening sessions. Really?! [Edited 8/28/18 20:46pm]

I'm pretty sure we heard the finished product at the Celebration.

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Reply #15 posted 08/29/18 5:26pm

leecaldon

It also fails to mention that The Work Pt. 1 was released as a single on Napster.

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Reply #16 posted 08/31/18 1:33am

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I've hardly ever read such an amount of BS and inacurracies.

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CB wasn't exclusively sold thru mail order and a great amount of its sales (unsure if the figure is correct but I know it charted) came from record stores. The article also fails to mention how the mail order part was a total fiasco, enraging fans.

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The digital version of Rave with "remastered" elements is pure BS, no such thing ever happened and the record was only available for purchase in physical formats. The "In2" CD, mentioned below, did happen but it contained extended versions and remixes, not "remastered" songs (but whomever wrote this article probably doiesn't know the difference between remastered and remixed)

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The story of TRC being revised after the Celebration listening sessions is one I've never heard before, and I have no reason to believe any of it is true, particularly since the controversial elements that Kevin Smith reported infuriated some fans back then were still present on the final product.

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Anyone who was a paying Lotusflow3r.com member will be infuriuated to read that "the website was often updated with new songs, samples and interactive content for listeners", given that the website was virtually abandonned immediately after its launch, with almost no updates in a year and customers complaints remaining unanswered.

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Prince being "ahead of his time" by distributing records (20ten in that case) thru newspaper is a debatable statement. While the distribution method was indeed original, it's not like selling CDs in newspaper has become a trend ever since. Prince may have been ahead of his time with NPGMC a decade earlier, but 20ten?

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In the end what we have here is a lazy article written by a hack. A pity because an in-depth study of Prince's post-1994 business model certainly would have been interesting for non-fans and casual Prince listeners.

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