feeluupp said:

ThirdStrike said:

ethanthomas said: Well said. I’m starting to believe this release will only be appreciated by the more sophisticated Prince fans. The ones that understand his relevance in totality. Make no mistake. This is an extremely important release long term.

More sophisticated fans... Yea right... Best beleive there are far more superior recordings than this so "sophisticated fans" can appreciate this. This release is just plain dissapointing. Period.

These are demos period... He is even messing up minor keys and chords on international lover, at .35 seconds and throughout the songs...

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I know, right. International Lover should have Do Me, Baby subtitled since he plays the chords for it close to half or more in the song. Sloppy lead playing here and there and sevral of the songs are just two chord vamps. Purple Rain isn't even 40 seconds worth...

Contrary to what a few others have said in here, this release is...overwhelming, overwhelming, OVERWHELMING!! It's overwhelming in its soul. Overwhelming in its emotion and craftsmanship. Overwhelming in its sincerity and relevance. And lastly, its overwhelming in its importance to the artist and his undying legacy.

With that, I want to personally thank the Prince Estate for allowing me an opportunity to listen and experience what is in essence the planning and design of a great house being built before I ever get the honor of sleeping in one of its rooms. Gives me great insight into the time and effort it took to become a legend.

Enjoy your weekend everyone.

feeluupp said:

ThirdStrike said:

That's exactly what I'm saying. You pointing out about him "messing up" minor keys on a fucking REHEARSAL RECORDING accentuates my points for me. This recording is the VERY PLACE for such "mistakes" (duh). And as such, the fans who understand and appreciate that fact when consuming this music are the ones for which its release was intended. Not for those "I want to hear stuff I have't already ilegally heard years before" so-called "fans" who constantly complain about releases even when they are coming out at a fairly steady pace since 2016. It's madness.

I'm at a loss. These arguements are the very reason the viewership on this site has dissipated at the rate it has. Now if you'll excuse me. I want to get back to enjoyong this "plain disappointing" music now...

It is dissapointing and underwhelming... This is exactly what you accentuated as well, a recording that most likely should've never been released... Not gonna get in to the whole debate if Prince was alive he would or wouldn't release, but the songs on this release are extremely underwhelming... Did you listen to Purple Rain? One of the most iconic songs of all time and they release this version when we know for a fact there are far more superior recordings...

It's not your right to judge who is and who isn't a real fan because we don't agree that this release is special or spectacular like you do. We all are for listening or viewing the creative process in which Prince creates his art and his craft, but I'm sorry, this is not a good representation of it, not at all... If anyone is "satisified" with the lack of completeness in this release, it's only lowering the standard for future releases from the estate. You can enjoy the music that's great, we all enjoy Prince's music, but I can not agree with the choice from the estate with this subpar release, not at all. These were demos for a reason, the blueprint is there in the songs, but not the soul yet... Hence why it feels incomplete, and hence why this was shelved for 30 years and other recordings and outtakes were reworked and much more improved upon.

Wait a minute. Now I'm confused. In one sentence, you say I have no right to judge who is or who is not a real fan, then the next sentence you say if anyone is satisfied with this release based on it being "not complete" then it only contributes to "lowering the standards" of future releases by the estate. Talk out of both sides of your mouth much??

ThirdStrike said:

KingSausage said:

ThirdStrike said:

Contrary to what a few others have said in here, this release is...overwhelming, overwhelming, OVERWHELMING!! It's overwhelming in its soul. Overwhelming in its emotion and craftsmanship. Overwhelming in its sincerity and relevance. And lastly, its overwhelming in its importance to the artist and his undying legacy.

With that, I want to personally thank the Prince Estate for allowing me an opportunity to listen and experience what is in essence the planning and design of a great house being built before I ever get the honor of sleeping in one of its rooms. Gives me great insight into the time and effort it took to become a legend.

Enjoy your weekend everyone.

Nothing is “contrary” here. We’re all just sharing opinions. Peace.

Yup. My opinions shared. Peace.

I think the conversation on this thread proves that age old saying of " you can't please everyone all the time", and this release is no exception. I don't think there will be any future release that satisfies absolutely every fan.

I am thrilled to have this. What an intimate experience to listen to Prince in this way. I think it deserves to be listened to without all the negative baggage associated with how one feels about the estate's release pattern. It is wonderful for what it is, and a unique addition to the Prince oeuvre. I think it will stay that way even when we finally get the more produced releases.

Another reason I think some are denouncing this release is more about it being previously available through bootleggers then about the music itself. If this had never been heard before today, would it still be thought of as "underwhelming" by those criticising it? Because honestly, the more I've been reading through some of these threads the more I've seen descritpors like "we've had it for years" or "I've heard this 20 years ago", but not too many "I've never heard this before, and it's still underwhelming". Just a thought...

gandorb said:

I am thrilled to have this. What an intimate experience to listen to Prince in this way. I think it deserves to be listened to without all the negative baggage associated with how one feels about the estate's release pattern. It is wonderful for what it is, and a unique addition to the Prince oeuvre. I think it will stay that way even when we finally get the more produced releases.

Agreed, and it seems that the majority - even on this thread, feel this way. It's an amazing piece of history in Prince's journey just before he became world famous. I actually prefer the demos,and live rehearsals over the produced work.

Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone....ng-726696/

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ThirdStrike said:

Contrary to what a few others have said in here, this release is...overwhelming, overwhelming, OVERWHELMING!! It's overwhelming in its soul. Overwhelming in its emotion and craftsmanship. Overwhelming in its sincerity and relevance. And lastly, its overwhelming in its importance to the artist and his undying legacy.

With that, I want to personally thank the Prince Estate for allowing me an opportunity to listen and experience what is in essence the planning and design of a great house being built before I ever get the honor of sleeping in one of its rooms. Gives me great insight into the time and effort it took to become a legend.

Enjoy your weekend everyone.

I'm with you. The songs may still be in the construction phase during this recording, but they convey a natural spirit and soulfulness that tends to get lost in the production process.

BartVanHemelen said:

Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone....ng-726696/

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Love this article. Thank you for posting!

Where are the liner notes? I was so excited to read them. Did you have to buy the deluxe version? I didn't want the vinyl version. I only have the standard cd. Someone please let me know.

ea1313 said:

Silvertongue7 said:

ea1313 said:

Where are the liner notes? I was so excited to read them. Did you have to buy the deluxe version? I didn't want the vinyl version. I only have the standard cd. Someone please let me know.

Deluxe only, I think.

Thanks Silver I was afraid of that. Now it feels like I'll have to rebuy it. I like what I'm hearing at least.

ea1313 said:

ea1313 said:

Where are the liner notes?

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Read the articles that announced the release on 7 June.

Romeoblu said:

The hand written lyrics for Strange Relationship doesn't look like Prince's handwriting.

Exactly!

Despite disappointment at the way this has been done - (the tape hiss is dreadful and no liner notes in the CD?!?!?!)

loving 17 days and Mary Dont You Weep.

17 days is extremely funky - anyone else notice the rhythm he's using is the same that he later used in 'The Bird'?

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I think it's unfit to be released except as a free bonus disc to another real and complete album or maybe a book or somethig. The hissing in he background kept reminding me that this came from a freaking cassette.

Marco81 said:

It's definitely of historical interest for Prince fans, but that's about it for me. It is hard not to feel disappointed.

Prince improved so much as a musician, vocalist and pianist over the years, it makes jumping back to a rough private noodling session from 83 kinda tough to listen to (considering how good the ONA piano album was 20 years later). The bottom line for me is that I don't think Prince would ever have wanted this released, and I don't particularly enjoy listening to it. To think... all the great unreleased studio material Prince worked on over the years, and this is what we end up with. And that's it for another 12 months? Pretty disappointing.

ian said:

ian said:

I get some of the complaints, but to complain about the performance of prince on this is ridiculous. It is what it is. In that moment, in that time. Which the people behind it make quite clear! And in the articles. Relax and enjoy it!