rogifan said:

Morris recalled: “I said ‘oh my God, Prince, you have to put this out, this is unbelievable, if you put this out you’ll blow everyone away, you’ll be back on top, it’s over!’ And Prince said, ‘no, this is for my kids, it’s for their legacy.'”

Hmm...I wonder what year this conversation was.

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"no, this is for my kids, it’s for their legacy." is a ridiculous idea, as if songs recorded in the early/mid 1980s stay fresh forever. And it really became ridiculous when the music industry collapsed about 15 years ago.

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The smart move would have been to start an archival release program in the late 1990s, back when there was still a significant fan base, and maintain that over the next decades, while collaborating with Warners on remastered and expanded editions of his classic albums. That would have been the most lucrative path.

Are you telling me that he has better songs than "If I Was Your Girlfriend" laying around in the vault

Well ______. You know, some of us are not exactly "spring chickens". I hate to think I might be in a hospital bed somewhere, sometime, when I get to hear his best stuff. At this rate, I may have to just ask the man himself when I see him in the next life.

paulludvig said:

The Revolution members are probably scrambling for a bigger cut than they are entitled to, making exaggerated claims about their involvment. The estate has to disprove them. Hard to do. How do you prove a negative. But this has to be sorted out before we see any material from the golden years. [Edited 8/11/18 17:11pm]

Agree. But how would they get any cut, if they aren't credited for writing the songs? Everything belongs to Prince doesn't it?

Seahorsie said:

Well ______. You know, some of us are not exactly "spring chickens". I hate to think I might be in a hospital bed somewhere, sometime, when I get to hear his best stuff. At this rate, I may have to just ask the man himself when I see him in the next life.

Most of us Prince fans are not spring chickens. I don't think there too many people under 45 posting on this site.

PennyPurple said:

paulludvig said:

The Revolution members are probably scrambling for a bigger cut than they are entitled to, making exaggerated claims about their involvment. The estate has to disprove them. Hard to do. How do you prove a negative. But this has to be sorted out before we see any material from the golden years. [Edited 8/11/18 17:11pm]

Agree. But how would they get any cut, if they aren't credited for writing the songs? Everything belongs to Prince doesn't it?

All the "new" tracks on the Purple Rain reissue were credited to Prince alone for composition so if they've been gunning for a bigger cut they've been really bad at it so far.

jaawwnn said:

PennyPurple said:

Agree. But how would they get any cut, if they aren't credited for writing the songs? Everything belongs to Prince doesn't it?

All the "new" tracks on the Purple Rain reissue were credited to Prince alone for composition so if they've been gunning for a bigger cut they've been really bad at it so far.

That's what I was kinda thinking but didn't know for sure.

I think some of y’all are in for a rude awakening when it comes to unreleased material. I’m not saying that there isn’t great material in the vault, but I am saying I don’t think there are finished albums in there, and by finished I mean fully recorded/mixed/sequenced and ready to be mastered/remastered. I truly believe anything we get will be compilations.

And some of you have really hit the head on the nail with why Piano & Microphone was probably the first release. I’m not saying The Revolution or any particular people are looking for bigger cuts or anything, but you do have to take into account whether individuals helped write songs, who actually played on songs, whether or not they were considered “work for hire” on certain songs, whether or not they got paid at all back then, etc. Not to mention the fact that they are still actively cataloging material. P&M 83 is a simple release. It’s self contained. Only Prince is playing on it. Besides paying royalties for the use of covers all the other songs are Prince compositions or the co-writers are known because they were previously released (if that even matters because the songs are so stripped down in most cases).

206Michelle said:

Remember those pictures of the vault contents that circulated after he died? The ones the police took? In one of those pictures, near the Purple Rain tracks, were boxes with almost all of the new PRDeluxe tracks labeled. Those tracks didn’t come from WBs “vault”. They came from Prince. They came from Paisley Park.

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

206Michelle said:

The previously unreleased material on Purple Rain Deluxe came from Warner Brothers' vault as I understand it.

Remember those pictures of the vault contents that circulated after he died? The ones the police took? In one of those pictures, near the Purple Rain tracks, were boxes with almost all of the new PRDeluxe tracks labeled. Those tracks didn’t come from WBs “vault”. They came from Prince. They came from Paisley Park.

Says who? The varying quality between many of the tracks says otherwise. Wonderful Ass almost sounds like it was sourced from vinyl.

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I think some of y’all are in for a rude awakening when it comes to unreleased material. I’m not saying that there isn’t great material in the vault, but I am saying I don’t think there are finished albums in there, and by finished I mean fully recorded/mixed/sequenced and ready to be mastered/remastered. I truly believe anything we get will be compilations.

Prince himself said there were finished albums in the vault, also referencing completed Revolution, The Time, and Vanity 6 albums as well.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Looks like a will to me

this would be cool if Duane Tudalh (Prince & the Purple Rain era sessions book Author) could investigate .....ask Morris about this & bring back some details &more info ?

SchlomoThaHomo said:

You really believe everything Prince said? Only time will tell.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Who says they didn’t? All I know for fact is the tapes are in the picture. Everything else is message board rumor and speculation based on people not getting what they wanted.

PurpleBlackmon said:

Seahorsie said:

Well ______. You know, some of us are not exactly "spring chickens". I hate to think I might be in a hospital bed somewhere, sometime, when I get to hear his best stuff. At this rate, I may have to just ask the man himself when I see him in the next life.

Most of us Prince fans are not spring chickens. I don't think there too many people under 45 posting on this site.

You're right about that, I'm 53. Morris said he heard all the PR era leaks and this "A material" was never leaked.

PurpleBlackmon said:

Because they have clueless suits running shit.

There’s just one simple reason. There is nobody to have to pay. I’m sure we will be getting songs that only contain princes contributions for years.

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Says who? The varying quality between many of the tracks says otherwise. Wonderful Ass almost sounds like it was sourced from vinyl.

Who says they didn’t? All I know for fact is the tapes are in the picture. Everything else is message board rumor and speculation based on people not getting what they wanted.

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Or you could, I dunno, listen to the tracks and admit the audio quality is lacking. Which suggests an imperfect source.

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Prince himself said there were finished albums in the vault, also referencing completed Revolution, The Time, and Vanity 6 albums as well.

You really believe everything Prince said? Only time will tell.

No. But if it's between Prince, the creator of the music, or the speculation of a fan, I'm going with Prince.

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Says who? The varying quality between many of the tracks says otherwise. Wonderful Ass almost sounds like it was sourced from vinyl.

Who says they didn’t? All I know for fact is the tapes are in the picture. Everything else is message board rumor and speculation based on people not getting what they wanted.

You're saying they didn't, and stating your opinion as fact, based on a picture taken in the vault. If you listen to the album, the songs don't sound like they came from one consistent source.

coldasice said:

That would be great. He was always best as a solo artist.

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I think some of y’all are in for a rude awakening when it comes to unreleased material. I’m not saying that there isn’t great material in the vault, but I am saying I don’t think there are finished albums in there, and by finished I mean fully recorded/mixed/sequenced and ready to be mastered/remastered. I truly believe anything we get will be compilations. And some of you have really hit the head on the nail with why Piano & Microphone was probably the first release. I’m not saying The Revolution or any particular people are looking for bigger cuts or anything, but you do have to take into account whether individuals helped write songs, who actually played on songs, whether or not they were considered “work for hire” on certain songs, whether or not they got paid at all back then, etc. Not to mention the fact that they are still actively cataloging material. P&M 83 is a simple release. It’s self contained. Only Prince is playing on it. Besides paying royalties for the use of covers all the other songs are Prince compositions or the co-writers are known because they were previously released (if that even matters because the songs are so stripped down in most cases).

wrong ..there are at least 30 + fully sequenced with art work CDs

luvsexy4all said:

Source?....from which era? Thanx

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Prince himself said there were finished albums in the vault, also referencing completed Revolution, The Time, and Vanity 6 albums as well.

You really believe everything Prince said? Only time will tell.

Others have confirmed this. Likes of Steve Parke and Michael van Huffel made artwork with tracklists etc

SchlomoThaHomo said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

206Michelle said: Remember those pictures of the vault contents that circulated after he died? The ones the police took? In one of those pictures, near the Purple Rain tracks, were boxes with almost all of the new PRDeluxe tracks labeled. Those tracks didn’t come from WBs “vault”. They came from Prince. They came from Paisley Park.

Says who? The varying quality between many of the tracks says otherwise. Wonderful Ass almost sounds like it was sourced from vinyl.

I'm sure Mathieu Bitton confirmed the tracks came from WB and they did not have 17 Days (full version) in their vault that's why it wasn't included

luvsexy4all said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I think some of y’all are in for a rude awakening when it comes to unreleased material. I’m not saying that there isn’t great material in the vault, but I am saying I don’t think there are finished albums in there, and by finished I mean fully recorded/mixed/sequenced and ready to be mastered/remastered. I truly believe anything we get will be compilations. And some of you have really hit the head on the nail with why Piano & Microphone was probably the first release. I’m not saying The Revolution or any particular people are looking for bigger cuts or anything, but you do have to take into account whether individuals helped write songs, who actually played on songs, whether or not they were considered “work for hire” on certain songs, whether or not they got paid at all back then, etc. Not to mention the fact that they are still actively cataloging material. P&M 83 is a simple release. It’s self contained. Only Prince is playing on it. Besides paying royalties for the use of covers all the other songs are Prince compositions or the co-writers are known because they were previously released (if that even matters because the songs are so stripped down in most cases).

wrong ..there are at least 30 + fully sequenced with art work CDs

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