original revolution band version of soul psychadelicide

full vocal version of dopamine rush etc etc the list goes on...

oh and the house album (LOL).

OperatingThetan said:

coldasice said:

You realize Deliverence wasn’t really a vault track it was an unfinished track an engineer basically took & finished. Prince never heard those songs as they are

The engineer remixed all of the Deliverance tracks but that doesn't necesarily mean they were unfinished in Prince's mind. On the contrary, Prince's unaltered versions were on an early configuration of the Planet Earth album as the Man Opera. Prince's original version of the title track had the Twinz on the chorus with Prince's vocals alone. Ian Boxhill added the cheesy gospel choir and some additional keyboards.

And if you look at the Google spreadsheet of the vault catalog (done from the death investigation photos), you'll see some tapes related to the Man Opera near the bottom of the list.

Kares said:

Nope.
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Paisley Park Vault

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What are the green ovals indicated here?

darkroman said:

RodeoSchro said:

I think we should! In fact, I think a thread like this should be started on the third day of each month. That way we can use it as a reminder for all the stuff we were supposed to do on the first.

It'll be like, "Hey - an 'Is most of the vault already out in bootlegs?' thread! That reminds me - time to go to the Legos Store and see if they got in anything new!"

Or "Hey - an 'Is most of the vault already out in bootlegs?' thread! That reminds me - rent was due a couple days ago!"

Or even "Hey - an 'Is most of the vault already out in bootlegs?' thread! That reminds me - time to post something snarky on the Org!"

That's so funny!

Don't forget about a thread to cut down Emancipation to a single CD! Everyone loves that one - hours of fun!

In fact after years of avoiding such a crazy notion, this week for my latest gym routine, I cut down Emancipation to a single disc of all the funky numbers and it works - blooming amazigly!!!

I love it on the .org when everyone is so happy!

Rodeo- you are killing me, that's so funny. Kinda made up for me watching the evening news tonight. You need to be on Fallon; actual good material.

Seahorsie said:

Kares said:

Nope.
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Paisley Park Vault

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What are the green ovals indicated here?

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[Snip - luv4u]

Seahorsie said:

Seahorsie said:

Kares said:

Nope.
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Paisley Park Vault

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What are the green ovals indicated here?

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I've indicated the shelves that are included in the photos the investigators released. A small oval means only a few of the tape boxes are readable, a larger one means most of them are.

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You'll see that even though we have dozens of photos of the original vault, only a fraction of the tapes can be seen and identified from them. So even though my spreadsheet is almost 800 lines (with at least a bit of information even if it's just a catalog number), that 800 is just a fraction of the original vault.
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BartVanHemelen said:

darkroman said:

RodeoSchro said:

I think we should! In fact, I think a thread like this should be started on the third day of each month. That way we can use it as a reminder for all the stuff we were supposed to do on the first.

It'll be like, "Hey - an 'Is most of the vault already out in bootlegs?' thread! That reminds me - time to go to the Legos Store and see if they got in anything new!"

Or "Hey - an 'Is most of the vault already out in bootlegs?' thread! That reminds me - rent was due a couple days ago!"

Or even "Hey - an 'Is most of the vault already out in bootlegs?' thread! That reminds me - time to post something snarky on the Org!"

That's so funny!

Don't forget about a thread to cut down Emancipation to a single CD! Everyone loves that one - hours of fun!

In fact after years of avoiding such a crazy notion, this week for my latest gym routine, I cut down Emancipation to a single disc of all the funky numbers and it works - blooming amazigly!!!

I love it on the .org when everyone is so happy!

hey what do you guys think is prince's worst album?

BartVanHemelen said:

Seahorsie said:

What are the green ovals indicated here?

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[Snip - luv4u]

lol well played, bart. this one's yours.

There are a vast number of unheard, uncirculating, and undocumented tracks from 1982. There are handsome, but more modest, numbers of such tracks from the 1981 and early-/mid-1983 periods, as well.

imprimis said:

imprimis said:

Seahorsie said:

darkroman said:

That's so funny!

Don't forget about a thread to cut down Emancipation to a single CD! Everyone loves that one - hours of fun!

In fact after years of avoiding such a crazy notion, this week for my latest gym routine, I cut down Emancipation to a single disc of all the funky numbers and it works - blooming amazigly!!!

I love it on the .org when everyone is so happy!

Rodeo- you are killing me, that's so funny. Kinda made up for me watching the evening news tonight. You need to be on Fallon; actual good material.

Thanks! If you like that, check out my movie reviews on the "Rate The Last Movie You Watched" threads in General Discussion. I hope they make you laugh!

paradise000 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Are we going to have this thread every bloody month? How about you do some actual effort first and compile a list of known outtakes and put next to it the link to the song's entry on PrinceVault and whether it has been bootlegged or not. I mean, you seem to care about this, right? You could even make it a Google doc and open it for input by others.

I'm gonna start a new thread every month just to feed your insatiable desire to be a mad, angry person. You're welcome. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you? Or is it just a gimmick?

On topic though, I'd wager that most of the really good stuff in the vault has floated to the surface and seen daylight. though I'd wager there's lots of gems buried in there. the live soundboard and filmed material alone would be pure gold

OperatingThetan said:

Seahorsie said:

What are the green ovals indicated here?

They are the only areas that were photographed in the investigation. Those titles have now been transcribed where possible. The remainder is unknown - so plenty of material. * [Edited 7/14/18 2:15am]

Thanks for the info.

RodeoSchro said:

Seahorsie said:

Rodeo- you are killing me, that's so funny. Kinda made up for me watching the evening news tonight. You need to be on Fallon; actual good material.

Thanks! If you like that, check out my movie reviews on the "Rate The Last Movie You Watched" threads in General Discussion. I hope they make you laugh!

Will do- you can count on that. Most can no longer make clever banter, only trolling & abusive language come to their minds.

dodger said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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[Snip - luv4u]

I doubt you’d swear at a Seahorsie in real life like that You don’t speak to TrivialPursuit like that

Thank you dodger................

RicoN said:

so nasty

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After that can you now please comment on the content of the message instead of the appearance?

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And: Where is your list of vault tracks?

Seahorsie said:

What are the green ovals indicated here?

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Did you ever read the story?

The google docs website description?

Ever saw the police investigation pics?

Ever used some imagination?

paradise000 said:

This is what the article in Rolling Stone says: The vault material has all been transferred to digital, but it’s still in the midst of being listened to and cataloged. It’s no easy task: The material is stored in every format, from Seventies analog tapes to hard drives to cassette tapes. According to Howe, anywhere from 10 to 30 percent of all the music shipped to the vault was unlabeled or mislabeled. Howe estimates he has already found “hundreds,” and maybe as many as 1,000, completely unheard songs that could make for “many albums of material.” And that’s not counting many tapes of concerts, including some that document almost entire tours. http://www.rollingstone.c...gn-698529/

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I've seen the article too but to be honest I seriously doubt that they have transferred everything already. 'Everything' would have to include all of the rehearsal VHS tapes, all of the rehearsal audio cassettes, all the live recordings, all of the multitracks (both the analog and digital multitrack tapes), all of the mixdown tapes, all of the CD-Rs, pendrives, MO-disks, DATs, SyQuest disks, all of the film reels, all of the video tapes – literally everyhing – and that would be a monumental task, taking at least a year but most probably several years, even if more than one teams are working on it simultaneously.
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herb4 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Are we going to have this thread every bloody month? How about you do some actual effort first and compile a list of known outtakes and put next to it the link to the song's entry on PrinceVault and whether it has been bootlegged or not. I mean, you seem to care about this, right? You could even make it a Google doc and open it for input by others.

I'm gonna start a new thread every month just to feed your insatiable desire to be a mad, angry person. You're welcome. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you? Or is it just a gimmick?

On topic though, I'd wager that most of the really good stuff in the vault has floated to the surface and seen daylight. though I'd wager there's lots of gems buried in there. the live soundboard and filmed material alone would be pure gold

I hope to high Heaven that it's just a trolling gimmick. Because the alternative is too sad to contemplate.

As to the vault, I break it into the following categories:

PRE-1996ish OUTTAKES - We probably have a considerable amount of them, owing to Prince's propensity to give songs to friends, and to the thievery of certain bandmates and people who worked for him.

POST 1996ish OUTTAKES - No way do we have even a fraction of what he recorded in the las 20 years of his life. Way too many statements by those who worked with him, coupled with his complete clampdown on his and others' distribution of unreleased music, back up my belief that there really are 100 albums full of unreleased stuff

LIVE PERFORMANCES - To me, this is the goldmine. Apparently, and I stress apparently, Prince kept copies of pretty much every performance. And these would seem to be the easiest to release. No one expects remastering or dubbing on this kind of stuff. It's all recorded from the soundboard/venue's video equipment. Let's get this stuff out, estate!

RodeoSchro said:

True, I heard that too. But considering that Prince put out Emancipation (with 30 songs), The Truth, Kama Sutra, New Power Soul, Rave, and any number of limited release songs on webpages. He did't seem to be holding much back in that time period. Almost desperately throwing out everything he was making. I suspect (and hope) that in the 2000's when his output seemed to slow slightly (relative term I know--considering that one album a year is usually not considered less output) there might be more we haven't heard. I think also consider boxing up limited release online songs.

paulludvig said:

RodeoSchro said:

I hope to high Heaven that it's just a trolling gimmick. Because the alternative is too sad to contemplate.

As to the vault, I break it into the following categories:

PRE-1996ish OUTTAKES - We probably have a considerable amount of them, owing to Prince's propensity to give songs to friends, and to the thievery of certain bandmates and people who worked for him.

POST 1996ish OUTTAKES - No way do we have even a fraction of what he recorded in the las 20 years of his life. Way too many statements by those who worked with him, coupled with his complete clampdown on his and others' distribution of unreleased music, back up my belief that there really are 100 albums full of unreleased stuff

LIVE PERFORMANCES - To me, this is the goldmine. Apparently, and I stress apparently, Prince kept copies of pretty much every performance. And these would seem to be the easiest to release. No one expects remastering or dubbing on this kind of stuff. It's all recorded from the soundboard/venue's video equipment. Let's get this stuff out, estate!

Just heard an interview with Hans Buff. There doesn't seem to be that many hidden gems from his tenure. He mention The Divine (which he describes as similar to We March) and that's about it.

RodeoSchro said:

herb4 said:

I'm gonna start a new thread every month just to feed your insatiable desire to be a mad, angry person. You're welcome. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you? Or is it just a gimmick?

On topic though, I'd wager that most of the really good stuff in the vault has floated to the surface and seen daylight. though I'd wager there's lots of gems buried in there. the live soundboard and filmed material alone would be pure gold

I hope to high Heaven that it's just a trolling gimmick. Because the alternative is too sad to contemplate.

As to the vault, I break it into the following categories:

PRE-1996ish OUTTAKES - We probably have a considerable amount of them, owing to Prince's propensity to give songs to friends, and to the thievery of certain bandmates and people who worked for him.

POST 1996ish OUTTAKES - No way do we have even a fraction of what he recorded in the las 20 years of his life. Way too many statements by those who worked with him, coupled with his complete clampdown on his and others' distribution of unreleased music, back up my belief that there really are 100 albums full of unreleased stuff

LIVE PERFORMANCES - To me, this is the goldmine. Apparently, and I stress apparently, Prince kept copies of pretty much every performance. And these would seem to be the easiest to release. No one expects remastering or dubbing on this kind of stuff. It's all recorded from the soundboard/venue's video equipment. Let's get this stuff out, estate!

I still tend to think that a lot, though probably not most, of the "leaks" were carfeully calculated and released by Prince himself. I think he was kind of smart like that and sort of instinctally knew when to throw some chum in the water. I could be wrong, of course, but the boots were a "thing" relatively early on - before cell phones and hand held digital cams or, in some cases, before even CD's. By the early to mid 90's, given his Paisley Park fortress and all the non disclosure agreements and shit, he could EASILY have had that shit on total lockdown.