when prince did the interview where he was asked about MJ's situation and he replied

"i'm too close to that", that to me was an admission of i'm not in control of my own stuff

who am I to comment. i think he was being transparent and no one listened.

Do people have control over their own existence/life/death? I say yes they do.

poppys said:

Do people have control over their own existence/life/death? I say yes they do.

even when people die in car wrecks?

purplefam99 said:

poppys said:

Do people have control over their own existence/life/death? I say yes they do.

even when people die in car wrecks?

OK fine, barring accidents, purplefam99. What are you getting at here?

Strive said:

Prince hired the wrong people most of the time but he was also terrible at business.

He was a visionary but anybody with a bit of business finesse could have leveraged his gift into everlasting $$$ and creative freedom.

All your after the fact opinion.

poppys said:

purplefam99 said:

even when people die in car wrecks?

OK fine, barring accidents, purplefam99. What are you getting at here?

Specifically wanted to understand how we are in control of death. not counting suicide.

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poppys said:

Do people have control over their own existence/life/death? I say yes they do.

purplefam99 said:

even when people die in car wrecks?

purplefam99 said:

poppys said:

OK fine, barring accidents, purplefam99. What are you getting at here?

Specifically wanted to understand how we are in control of death. not counting suicide.

We all make decisions in our lives that are related to death. We don't walk out in front of speeding cars. We quit smoking, or not, etc etc. I am talking about free will here. You are adding modifiers and asking me to explain the changed statement. I was generalizing. We are all going to die, of course. It comes with the birth certificate.

Unless one is 100% fatalist and believes that everything in life is pre-ordained by another power totally outside of ourselves, I think it is safe to say that we have control over many parts of our lives, even those that can change our deaths.

I don't have an opinion on what Prince said about Michael Jackson's situation, don't even know what situation you are referring to.

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People who are in control of their situation (financial, anyway) pay their property taxes on time - or work out a plan to pay them so it stays out of the papers. Just sayin'.

poppys said:

poppys said:

Do people have control over their own existence/life/death? I say yes they do.

purplefam99 said:

even when people die in car wrecks?

purplefam99 said:

OK fine, barring accidents, purplefam99. What are you getting at here?

Specifically wanted to understand how we are in control of death. not counting suicide.

We all make decisions in our lives that are related to death. We don't walk out in front of speeding cars. We quit smoking, or not, etc etc. I am talking about free will here. You are adding modifiers and asking me to explain the changed statement. I was generalizing. We are all going to die, of course. It comes with the birth certificate.

Unless one is 100% fatalist and believes that everything in life is pre-ordained by another power totally outside of ourselves, I think it is safe to say that we have control over many parts of our lives, even those that can change our deaths.

I don't have an opinion on what Prince said about Michael Jackson's situation, don't even know what situation you are referring to.

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natural disasters, miscarriages, chronic illness and acute illness are ways people aren't in control of their death

however now that i know you were generalizing i can see better where i think you were coming from. Thx for helping me to understand what you were saying in your post.

And my statement about Prince and Michael wasn't intended to anyone in particular, i think it was posted

prior to your post.

"When I pray to God, I say, It’s your call - when it’s time to go, it’s time to go." — Prince

Thought I'd share.

Genesia said:

People who are in control of their situation (financial, anyway) pay their property taxes on time - or work out a plan to pay them so it stays out of the papers. Just sayin'.

I just don't think he cared enough, he knew he could pay off any debt with a show if needed. It might not have been how you or I choose to live but it seemed to work for him. Well, until it didn't...

jaawwnn said:

Genesia said:

People who are in control of their situation (financial, anyway) pay their property taxes on time - or work out a plan to pay them so it stays out of the papers. Just sayin'.

I just don't think he cared enough, he knew he could pay off any debt with a show if needed. It might not have been how you or I choose to live but it seemed to work for him. Well, until it didn't...

In New Orleans, you can not pay property taxes for 3 years - BUT anyone else can pay them, and it goes on record. If you don't pay before your deadline, they get your property. I have no idea if Minneapolis/Chanhassen has anything like that.

CatB said:

"When I pray to God, I say, It’s your call - when it’s time to go, it’s time to go." — Prince

Thought I'd share.

Hmm, interesting. Was this before JW?

poppys said:

CatB said:

"When I pray to God, I say, It’s your call - when it’s time to go, it’s time to go." — Prince

Thought I'd share.

Hmm, interesting. Was this before JW?

Yes, early 90s.

Think about it. This man's music leaked constantly. How much control did he really have?

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anangellooksdown said:

rogifan said:

Yes it is amazing. Perhaps those who can’t find closure over his death and keep beating a dead horse over questions only he can answer are the ones who need some therapy.

The great thing is that Prince has grown since his passing. He knows all now. And there is a way to be close to him. But that takes WORK. And therapy is not where it’s at. It never has been. Prince was always wiser than some therapist so why should he give his power to one?

Well considering he died battling drug additction, Prince is a fallable human being. A musical genuis sure, but we all could use a little help sometimes.

ForceofNature said:

anangellooksdown said:

rogifan said: The great thing is that Prince has grown since his passing. He knows all now. And there is a way to be close to him. But that takes WORK. And therapy is not where it’s at. It never has been. Prince was always wiser than some therapist so why should he give his power to one?

Well considering he died battling drug additction, Prince is a fallable human being. A musical genuis sure, but we all could use a little help sometimes.

Exactly. He was human. Geesh. When did than become shameful?

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tump said:

CatB said:

"When I pray to God, I say, It’s your call - when it’s time to go, it’s time to go." — Prince

Thought I'd share.

CatB said:

poppys said:

Hmm, interesting. Was this before JW?

Yes, early 90s.

I think most people feel that way though. Many people say things like that, even if they aren't super religious. An admission of mortality and lack of control over when when we die. Acknowledging the flow.

I think he controlled a great deal. More than most artists really. He just spread himself too thin. No man is an island. His trust issues are the stuff of legend. Overall, I think he did great. Managing his public image the way he did and limiting his availability enhanced his longevity I think. At the end he was a certified legend after a 40 year run.

And I'd bet good money that some of the "leaks" were of his own doing. I'm almost 100% certain the whole Black Album/Lovesexy controversy was manufactured for publicity.

ForceofNature said:

rogifan said:

ForceofNature said:

Well considering he died battling drug additction, Prince is a fallable human being. A musical genuis sure, but we all could use a little help sometimes.

All human beings are fallible. Most human beings though don’t have their life, their every word and action dissected and analyzed to death.

and after death.

think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm mean of all people who might b aliens or angels. if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not b that surprised.

All needed 2 do 2 take over the world again is decided he wanted 2.

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might b aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not b that surprised. All needed 2 do 2 take over the world again is decided he wanted 2.

This really was said.

rdhull said:

This really was sad.

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rdhull said:

endiadj said:

rdhull said:

He needed a therapist. A good one. The end.

Everyone could use a good therapist then.

Especially people who believe in aliens
and in Prince "taking over the world".

poppys said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm mean of all people who might b aliens or angels. if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not b that surprised.

All needed 2 do 2 take over the world again is decided he wanted 2.

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