All the Details : Prince Estate, Sony Ink Distribution Deal for 35 Previously Released Albums & more

Reply #243 posted 07/06/18 12:08am

embmmusic

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luvsexy4all said:

so ...according to someone on here ..there WONT be CD rereleases??? where is that info from?

It's just someone pretending that their speculation is fact and endlessly repeating it

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Reply #244 posted 07/06/18 4:41am

LRC69

embmmusic said:

luvsexy4all said:

so ...according to someone on here ..there WONT be CD rereleases??? where is that info from?

It's just someone pretending that their speculation is fact and endlessly repeating it

Once again, this information comes from the CEO of Sony Legacy Recordings France.

Only in digital for now.

He also confirmed that no CD or vinyl release will take place for at least a year, see more.

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Reply #245 posted 07/06/18 5:11am

udo

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LRC69 said:

embmmusic said:

It's just someone pretending that their speculation is fact and endlessly repeating it

Once again, this information comes from the CEO of Sony Legacy Recordings France.

Only in digital for now.

He also confirmed that no CD or vinyl release will take place for at least a year, see more.

And that is what they call `distribution`?

They are a joke already.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

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Reply #246 posted 07/06/18 11:51am

udo said:

LRC69 said:

embmmusic said:

It's just someone pretending that their speculation is fact and endlessly repeating it

Once again, this information comes from the CEO of Sony Legacy Recordings France.

Only in digital for now.

He also confirmed that no CD or vinyl release will take place for at least a year, see more.

And that is what they call `distribution`?

They are a joke already.

Is it really So hard to understand?

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Reply #247 posted 07/06/18 7:46pm

udo

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RODSERLING said:
Is it really So hard to understand?

Yes.

I asked for an explanation on why this deal was so great.

Nobody came even close...

And then that sreaming only rumor.

In such case Sony would be a Tidal of some sorts.

So what is the 'distribution' effort?

Did you ever think about that?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

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Reply #248 posted 07/07/18 12:32am

udo said:

RODSERLING said:

Is it really So hard to understand?

Yes.

I asked for an explanation on why this deal was so great.

Nobody came even close...

And then that sreaming only rumor.

In such case Sony would be a Tidal of some sorts.

So what is the 'distribution' effort?

Did you ever think about that?

Most of the money today is made on digital and streaming music.
This deal could be great because it would make available Prince music again, to the masses, via Spotify and I tunes. À bit too late though.
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There are so much official material from this era, that it could trigger very good numbers and exposition for Prince.
More exposition = more fans= more potentiel sales for eventual future releases.
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This deal could be huge if Sony succeed in getting lives tour for vidéo on demand.
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Now they announced the deal,what are they waiting for to push the button and put the music on streaming and digital platforms?

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Reply #249 posted 07/07/18 2:20am

love2thenines2 003	facts are the only things that matter.....other things are pure speculations !!
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Reply #250 posted 07/07/18 3:34am

udo

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Let's put it this way:

I am not interested in Music as a Service ('MAAS') like streams etc.

I am interested in Music as a Commodity ('MAAC') like pressed CD's, blu-rays, etc.

So if Sony's idea of distribution is the first, then why didn't they stick with Tidal?

I guess in the same case them b00tleggars will fill the void that I see.

Now let's wait for some clarity from Sony.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

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Reply #251 posted 07/07/18 3:38am

love2thenines2003 said:

facts are the only things that matter.....other things are pure speculations !!

cool

Spéculations based on hard cold facts ( state of the physical market, Prince catalogue sales, WB giving up on a 1999 deluxe, etc.), Official statement ( distribution of music already released) and now some insiders sources telling this an only- digital deal.
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What is Real spéculations, and you all don t want to admit it, is to still speak about physical re-release, deluxe reissues, etc.w hen it s against all odds.
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I saw numbers of topics here about "what do you expect on a 1999 or PR deluxe" etc. That were pure spéculative threads based on imaginary things. And it never schocked anyone. You are very sélective...

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Reply #252 posted 07/07/18 3:55am

love2thenines2
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RODSERLING said:
love2thenines2003 said:

facts are the only things that matter.....other things are pure speculations !!

Spéculations based on hard cold facts ( state of the physical market, Prince catalogue sales, WB giving up on a 1999 deluxe, etc.), Official statement ( distribution of music already released) and now some insiders sources telling this an only- digital deal. . What is Real spéculations, and you all don t want to admit it, is to still speak about physical re-release, deluxe reissues, etc.w hen it s against all odds. . I saw numbers of topics here about "what do you expect on a 1999 or PR deluxe" etc. That were pure spéculative threads based on imaginary things. And it never schocked anyone. You are very sélective...

SPECULATIONS

I have low xpectations 4 the Sony Deal at this stage & surely after , i don't know at all what 2 expect from WB after his release in September but my guess is ...implications by WB will be keep to a minimun........my only xpectation is 4 the future Deal of Vault Material....i would have wish that Universal pick up the Deal but....u know the rest !

we Will C ?

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Reply #253 posted 07/07/18 6:56am

RODSERLING said:
love2thenines2003 said:

facts are the only things that matter.....other things are pure speculations !!

Spéculations based on hard cold facts ( state of the physical market, Prince catalogue sales, WB giving up on a 1999 deluxe, etc.), Official statement ( distribution of music already released) and now some insiders sources telling this an only- digital deal. . What is Real spéculations, and you all don t want to admit it, is to still speak about physical re-release, deluxe reissues, etc.w hen it s against all odds. . I saw numbers of topics here about "what do you expect on a 1999 or PR deluxe" etc. That were pure spéculative threads based on imaginary things. And it never schocked anyone. You are very sélective...

This guy is deranged lol

Speculations and facts... lol lol Are two different things...

Please don't speculate anymore ROD... You always post nonsense and you are always wrong. When we get more deluxe editions and re releases and new releases this thread will come back to haunt you.

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Reply #254 posted 07/07/18 7:10am

IstenSzek

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love2thenines2003 said:

facts are the only things that matter.....other things are pure speculations !!

i'm sorry, but, seriously? coming from you? lol

falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff

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Reply #255 posted 07/07/18 8:31am

udo said:

Let's put it this way:

I am not interested in Music as a Service ('MAAS') like streams etc.

I am interested in Music as a Commodity ('MAAC') like pressed CD's, blu-rays, etc.

So if Sony's idea of distribution is the first, then why didn't they stick with Tidal?

I guess in the same case them b00tleggars will fill the void that I see.

Now let's wait for some clarity from Sony.

Tidal is a more confidential service than Spotify. Spotify has à Real impact on the charts.
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If (that is the spéculation part) they stream VOD from lives and tours, I am sure you Will be interested.
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I hâte digital and streaming things too. I would rather prefer physical reissues too. But frankly, considering many orgers, and other fans from others forums didn t buy PR deluxe despite great unreleased content; this is not realistic to hope they would buy again Newpower Soul for a CD of remixes...

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Reply #256 posted 07/07/18 8:54am

love2thenines2 003	IstenSzek said: love2thenines2003 said: facts are the only things that matter.....other things are pure speculations !! i'm sorry, but, seriously? coming from you? ILOVEu
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Reply #257 posted 07/07/18 10:56am

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love2thenines2003 said:

IstenSzek said:

i'm sorry, but, seriously? coming from you?

ILOVEu

i love you too smile don't mind my teasing hug

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps

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Reply #258 posted 07/07/18 12:43pm

Dandroppedadim e	streaming for the masses. box sets for us
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Reply #259 posted 07/07/18 2:59pm

Dandroppedadime said:[quote]

streaming for the masses.

box sets for us

cool

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Many here Take Springsteen or Dylan boxsets for évidence that there could be à market for Prince. But thèse artists, when they release an album, they are #1 in the USa, and top Ten in almost every market in the World.And they don t use "tricks" to "cheat" the sales.
Sadly, this is not the case for Prince. It would have been the perfect moment in 2004 for deluxe reissues, beginning with Purple Rain, and then the others albums.
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WB wanted to do that, back in the day,they knew there was a market for it, with the Musicology revival. Too late now.
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Before MJ released Thriller 25, PR and Thriller sold the same amount since 1991 and the beginning of soundscan sales.
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I dont know why everything he released After 1993 was out of print After à few months. But that was à really Bad strategy.
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Reply #260 posted 07/07/18 4:13pm

love2thenines2003 said:

RODSERLING said:

love2thenines2003 said:

facts are the only things that matter.....other things are pure speculations !!

Spéculations based on hard cold facts ( state of the physical market, Prince catalogue sales, WB giving up on a 1999 deluxe, etc.), Official statement ( distribution of music already released) and now some insiders sources telling this an only- digital deal. . What is Real spéculations, and you all don t want to admit it, is to still speak about physical re-release, deluxe reissues, etc.w hen it s against all odds. . I saw numbers of topics here about "what do you expect on a 1999 or PR deluxe" etc. That were pure spéculative threads based on imaginary things. And it never schocked anyone. You are very sélective...

SPECULATIONS

I have low xpectations 4 the Sony Deal at this stage & surely after , i don't know at all what 2 expect from WB after his release in September but my guess is ...implications by WB will be keep to a minimun.....my only xpectation is 4 the future Deal of Vault Material....i would have wish that Universal pick up the Deal but....u know the rest !

we Will C ?

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Remember that WB had the choice between à 1999 deluxe and Piano...1983.
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If PR deluxe was such à success (130.000 copies worldwide in 2017) they would have released 1999 deluxe, possibly at the end of 2017 to coïncide with the 35th anniversaire.
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Instead, they preferred to Take their chances with Piano...1983.
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That tells à lot of what happened in the wings and with disappointing sales of PR deluxe.
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WB obviously wanted to make PR deluxe à huge release with à lot of promotion.
Then, somebody from the estate decided the live at the first avenue 1983, remasterised, was too good to be in this deluxe édition and was to be released on VOD for a reported one million dollars.
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What happened to that? Nothing.
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Since it was the best argument for PR deluxe, and that they could have priced higher this édition, they obviously stopped the huge hype this album could have benefited from, especially in the US.
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They didn t even bother to re certify it at 15*platinum like it should have, and PR reached that mark even before Prince death...This could have been great exposition for the while WB catalogue.

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Reply #261 posted 07/08/18 8:11am

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I was surprised recently to hear tracks from One Night Alone Live and Planet Earth on Pandora, and it gave me hope that the streaming rights to the new batch of albums had already taken effect. Not the case with Apple Music, Spotify, etc though. Does Pandora have different rights outside of the new agreement?
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Reply #262 posted 07/08/18 11:53am

luvsexy4all

RODSERLING said:
love2thenines2003 said:

SPECULATIONS

I have low xpectations 4 the Sony Deal at this stage & surely after , i don't know at all what 2 expect from WB after his release in September but my guess is ...implications by WB will be keep to a minimun........my only xpectation is 4 the future Deal of Vault Material....i would have wish that Universal pick up the Deal but....u know the rest !

we Will C ?

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Remember that WB had the choice between à 1999 deluxe and Piano...1983. . If PR deluxe was such à success (130.000 copies worldwide in 2017) they would have released 1999 deluxe, possibly at the end of 2017 to coïncide with the 35th anniversaire. . Instead, they preferred to Take their chances with Piano...1983. . That tells à lot of what happened in the wings and with disappointing sales of PR deluxe. . WB obviously wanted to make PR deluxe à huge release with à lot of promotion. Then, somebody from the estate decided the live at the first avenue 1983, remasterised, was too good to be in this deluxe édition and was to be released on VOD for a reported one million dollars. . What happened to that? Nothing. . Since it was the best argument for PR deluxe, and that they could have priced higher this édition, they obviously stopped the huge hype this album could have benefited from, especially in the US. . They didn t even bother to re certify it at 15*platinum like it should have, and PR reached that mark even before Prince death...This could have been great exposition for the while WB catalogue.

but how could they think it would sell better than 1999 remastered with bonus tracks and a dvd

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Reply #263 posted 07/08/18 12:27pm

luvsexy4all said:

RODSERLING said:
love2thenines2003 said: Remember that WB had the choice between à 1999 deluxe and Piano...1983. . If PR deluxe was such à success (130.000 copies worldwide in 2017) they would have released 1999 deluxe, possibly at the end of 2017 to coïncide with the 35th anniversaire. . Instead, they preferred to Take their chances with Piano...1983. . That tells à lot of what happened in the wings and with disappointing sales of PR deluxe. . WB obviously wanted to make PR deluxe à huge release with à lot of promotion. Then, somebody from the estate decided the live at the first avenue 1983, remasterised, was too good to be in this deluxe édition and was to be released on VOD for a reported one million dollars. . What happened to that? Nothing. . Since it was the best argument for PR deluxe, and that they could have priced higher this édition, they obviously stopped the huge hype this album could have benefited from, especially in the US. . They didn t even bother to re certify it at 15*platinum like it should have, and PR reached that mark even before Prince death...This could have been great exposition for the while WB catalogue.

but how could they think it would sell better than 1999 remastered with bonus tracks and a dvd

ROD is speculating once again, don't listen to his nonsense...

There was no OFFICIAL announcement or cancelation of a 1999 Remaster... Just rumours, nothing more. So the fact that ROD concocs a story in his head saying oh becuase PR DELUXE didn't sell well, 1999 Remaster got cancelled, like all his other bullshit about sales, is just silly, he has no credibility on this site, he is a troll who is damn OBSESSED ABOUT SALES, SALES, SALES. NOT ONE POST IF NOT ABOUT SALES... GO THROUGH HIS POSTS...

Anyway the contradiction about RODS's falses presumptions are, he thinks there will be no more deluxe issues due to low sales, yet the estate still releases an obsucre 1983 PIANO REHEARSAL... This has nothing to do about sales, we will continue to get more deluxe releases, new releases as well as re releases in physical form...

Oh and when we get those new releases please be aware ROD indeed post in every new upcoming release thread that the sales were low. rolleyes

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Reply #264 posted 07/08/18 12:32pm

Actually the ridiculousness of ROD's post about how Prince doesn't sell anymore and we will get no further new releases is so obsurd... Hey RODDY N.E.W.S sold uner 40,000 copies, independent artists with no promotion were selling more than PRINCE at that time... Yet to your logic if an album would sell that little then Prince would have no more releases right?? Well how many new releases have we had since his worst seller...

Oh and btw ROD, when those new deluxe editions do come out of 1999 and all the other WB albums, what is gonna be your excuse then?

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Reply #265 posted 07/08/18 1:00pm

luvsexy4all	but arent most of these albums ALREADY availavble to download?
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Reply #266 posted 07/08/18 2:11pm

Silvertongue7	Mental note: don’t check this thread again; no new information being posted; déjà vu feeling.
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Reply #267 posted 07/08/18 2:18pm

feeluupp said:

Oh and btw ROD, when those new deluxe editions do come out of 1999 and all the other WB albums, what is gonna be your excuse then?

You are a complètely crazy guy obsessed by me...Stop being insulting, or please, just insult me on MP.
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Can t somebody stop this Guy from trashing and chasing me for years?
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You don t know what you are talking about : now you talk about an obscure instrumental indépendant album, that has nothing to do with Big market targeted albums...
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Reply #268 posted 07/08/18 2:29pm

luvsexy4all said:

RODSERLING said:

love2thenines2003 said:

SPECULATIONS

I have low xpectations 4 the Sony Deal at this stage & surely after , i don't know at all what 2 expect from WB after his release in September but my guess is ...implications by WB will be keep to a minimun.....my only xpectation is 4 the future Deal of Vault Material....i would have wish that Universal pick up the Deal but....u know the rest !

we Will C ?

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[Edited 7/7/18 3:58am]

Remember that WB had the choice between à 1999 deluxe and Piano...1983. . If PR deluxe was such à success (130.000 copies worldwide in 2017) they would have released 1999 deluxe, possibly at the end of 2017 to coïncide with the 35th anniversaire. . Instead, they preferred to Take their chances with Piano...1983. . That tells à lot of what happened in the wings and with disappointing sales of PR deluxe. . WB obviously wanted to make PR deluxe à huge release with à lot of promotion. Then, somebody from the estate decided the live at the first avenue 1983, remasterised, was too good to be in this deluxe édition and was to be released on VOD for a reported one million dollars. . What happened to that? Nothing. . Since it was the best argument for PR deluxe, and that they could have priced higher this édition, they obviously stopped the huge hype this album could have benefited from, especially in the US. . They didn t even bother to re certify it at 15*platinum like it should have, and PR reached that mark even before Prince death...This could have been great exposition for the while WB catalogue.

but how could they think it would sell better than 1999 remastered with bonus tracks and a dvd

First, Piano...1983 involves only Prince. No need to pay anybody else.
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Second, only one track to remasterise and clean.
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Third, 1999 only rings à Bell in anglosaxons countries.
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Four, we know how music press Works. This kind of project could get their attention, showcasing Prince vocal talents without artifices, without his usual (annoying for some) gimmicks.
Nobody in the music press reviewed the PR reissue last year.
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Reply #269 posted 07/08/18 4:07pm

RODSERLING said:
feeluupp said:

Actually the ridiculousness of ROD's post about how Prince doesn't sell anymore and we will get no further new releases is so obsurd... Hey RODDY N.E.W.S sold uner 40,000 copies, independent artists with no promotion were selling more than PRINCE at that time... Yet to your logic if an album would sell that little then Prince would have no more releases right?? Well how many new releases have we had since his worst seller...

Oh and btw ROD, when those new deluxe editions do come out of 1999 and all the other WB albums, what is gonna be your excuse then?

You are a complètely crazy guy obsessed by me...Stop being insulting, or please, just insult me on MP. . Can t somebody stop this Guy from trashing and chasing me for years? . You don t know what you are talking about : now you talk about an obscure instrumental indépendant album, that has nothing to do with Big market targeted albums... [Edited 7/8/18 14:30pm]

Then stop posting always about how PRINCE won't sell or no new releases will come because his sales are low... How can every post of yours since 2014 be about sales??

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