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1. Making the albums more available 2. New fans 3. You know you gon' buy 'em again
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1. Making the albums more available 2. New fans 3. You know you gon' buy 'em again
I highly doubt it. Look at the sales of Purple deluxe : very low. And it contains not only the b sides, but 75 minutes of unreleased music. Many orgers didn t buy and Will never buy it : I even made a thread about it à few weeks ago. Same opinions in France at the fansite Schkopi. . Because of these people, PRr deluxe wasn t à success, and So the estate and Warner were disappointed to the point of not wanting to release deluxe éditions anymore. . The post 1993 albums were all critical and commercial failures. It would have been great if thèse albums were widely available when Prince did, or shortly After. Now the hype about his death is long gone. . I think the only for them making money is to release lives on Vod from this era, with à perfect image. | |
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1. Making the albums more available 2. New fans 3. You know you gon' buy 'em again
I highly doubt it. Look at the sales of Purple deluxe : very low. And it contains not only the b sides, but 75 minutes of unreleased music. Many orgers didn t buy and Will never buy it : I even made a thread about it à few weeks ago. Same opinions in France at the fansite Schkopi. . Because of these people, PRr deluxe wasn t à success, and So the estate and Warner were disappointed to the point of not wanting to release deluxe éditions anymore. . The post 1993 albums were all critical and commercial failures. It would have been great if thèse albums were widely available when Prince did, or shortly After. Now the hype about his death is long gone. . I think the only for them making money is to release lives on Vod from this era, with à perfect image. | |
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Is that what's been said or what you're speculating? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Will people stop saying that Purple Rain Deluxe didn't sell well? It sold nearly 50k copies in the US the first week and over 100k total. That's really good for a reissue in today's market.
These won't sell as many as that but there is a market for his work and most of this has been out of print for a long, long time. If you're expecting any posthumous Prince release to sell a million+ the first week out, you're outta your mind. Nobody's doing those type of numbers. The recent reissue of Sgt. Pepper sold 75k its first week and that was enough to get it to #3 on Billboard 200. [Edited 6/29/18 0:22am] | |
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From contact at Sony
No album in physical format at this stage , only Digital in the weeks 2 come....physical releases for few albums only not before at least 1 year from here...unreleased stuff not in WB catalogue is out of the deal at this stage, after 2021...all the unreleased stuff from the WBR era can't be released by Sony without WB agreement! Thanx 2 Elvis. And Yaz for the info...u know who u are! [Edited 6/29/18 0:49am] | |
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. Did somebody live under a rock for a few decades? We live on a globalised planet. For music we have imports going around the globe. If you really needed a tracked Lovesexy CD you could have gotten one as easily as Europeans can get stuff from the USA. Nowadays things could be different due to the recent tarriffs. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Naw, don't just pick one sentence in my post to point something out and neglect the rest. Re read the post...
Has nothing to do with what you just wrote.
Rod didn't know Lovesexy wasn't tracked on CD just because he lives in Europe and it was released as a tracked CD there... I simply stated Lovesexy wasn't originally released as a tracked CD in the U.S. back in '88 as Prince originally intended it to be. | |
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Only ROD will point that out, as usual...
Do you all remember his thread back in 2014, go search it under his user profile. He wrote that no new Prince album will ever make the Billboard 200 again... Yet every single released album so far did... | |
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Your "contact" at Sony... Right... | |
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It's true...
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feeluupp said:
Your "contact" at Sony... Right... Not mine...u READ wrong...i did not write MY CONTACT... other persons in the know will confirm this details I guess soon HERE! | |
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Don’t forget pr deluxe sounded like shit ... not only the brickwalled remaster, the outtakes were sourced from cassette with a serious botch on our destiny and painful eq overall, unfinished versions and burried in a 4 disk set with lazy packaging. Sourced from the vault in pristine quality with final instead of early mixes with a decent eq and packaging ... disk 2 could have been a must have release ... the hype was more about the awful remaster than the outtakes ... everybody already bought purple rain again when he died ... just too many all around bad decisions .. but that is consistent with todays music industry level of intelligence and taste | |
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in other words: and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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That's odd. I have no explaination for this. I know from the copyright notices of their albums on streaming sites that the rights for The Time and Sheila E. haven't reverted to Prince in 2014. The 6's I cannot tell for sure as they're not on streaming services. It's possible that Prince somehow managed to get the masters back for those. I just assumed he hadn't. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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I just want to know the specific 35 titles - count is just slightly off no matter how you try it.
At a minimum it'll all be out there streaming for sure - kept alive and available - that's a good thing ! | |
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Well done the estate, get as much money as you can because, who is going to buy any of this stuff? I have pretty much everything he released so won't be buying any of it again. A lot of his latter stuff I bought more out of hope, than anything else. Most of the time I played it once or twice and then put it back in the box. Prince Live, was usually better than on record in the end. | |
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This deal is not all about U. It's about who hasn't heard Prince's later post WBR material and gaining newer fans in a new generation for years to come. "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." | |
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but will they have bonus b-sides and remixes? a remastered lovesexy with 12" b-sides would be great | |
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bboy87 said: I'm reading this thread....where does it say that Sony isn't going to release the albums physically as some members stated/speculated? [Edited 6/28/18 19:06pm] They didn't exactly SAY it... but there is history: about 4 years ago, Sony got the rights to most of Van Morrison's huge catalog. Except for a 2 CD hits set, and a classic live album expanded, none of the other albums received a CD release... but they all turned up on Spotify (and probably other services as well) #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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So, to sum it up, at least for the time being, Sony will NOT be distributing 35 previously released albums.... they'll simply be licensing various streaming outlets to carry them? Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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So confused by this... What about all the albums already on at TIDAL. They said they are starting with TGE first but to do what? It's already up on TIDAL and other streaming platforms...
TGE, CHAOS & DISORDER, THE TRUTH, THE VAULT, RAVE IN2, THE RAINBOW CHILDREN, XPECTATION, N.E.W.S. THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE, THE CHOCOLATE INVASION, CNOTE, PLANET EARTH, INDIGO NIGHT, LOTUSFLOW3R, 20TEN, NEWPOWERSOUL, THE EXODUS, GIRL 6, 1800 NEW FUNK are all on TIDAL... [Edited 6/29/18 14:32pm] | |
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Is that what's been said or what you're speculating? What I m speculating from the sales of the PR deluxe édition, and the lack of réaction from both the estate and Warner [Edited 6/29/18 15:34pm] | |
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Strive said: Will people stop saying that Purple Rain Deluxe didn't sell well? It sold nearly 50k copies in the US the first week and over 100k total. That's really good for a reissue in today's market.
These won't sell as many as that but there is a market for his work and most of this has been out of print for a long, long time. If you're expecting any posthumous Prince release to sell a million+ the first week out, you're outta your mind. Nobody's doing those type of numbers. The recent reissue of Sgt. Pepper sold 75k its first week and that was enough to get it to #3 on Billboard 200. [Edited 6/29/18 0:22am] No, you re wrong. I already quoted my sources some weeks ago. The 1st week of sales, PR deluxe sold about 35.000 copies ( both 2cd +3cd version), and 17.000 copies of the regular album ( cd+ vinyl+ streaming). . In 2017 it sold only 81.000 copies in the Us, and something like 50.00 more worldwide. . Sgt Peppers 2017 was a tremendous success worldwide, selling more than 300.000 copies in the Us alone in 2017, despite the lack of unreleased tracks and that it was priced higher than PR deluxe. [Edited 6/29/18 15:47pm] | |
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love2thenines2003 said: From contact at Sony No album in physical format at this stage , only Digital in the weeks 2 come....physical releases for few albums only not before at least 1 year from here...unreleased stuff not in WB catalogue is out of the deal at this stage, after 2021...all the unreleased stuff from the WBR era can't be released by Sony without WB agreement! Thanx 2 Elvis. And Yaz for the info...u know who u are! [Edited 6/29/18 0:49am] Another proof that I was right. Highly predictable. They won t release deluxe éditions, as I told you all, this Can t be an option. | |
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feeluupp said:
Naw, don't just pick one sentence in my post to point something out and neglect the rest. Re read the post...
Has nothing to do with what you just wrote.
Rod didn't know Lovesexy wasn't tracked on CD just because he lives in Europe and it was released as a tracked CD there... I simply stated Lovesexy wasn't originally released as a tracked CD in the U.S. back in '88 as Prince originally inytended it to be. My first copie of Lovesexy, bought in France, wasn t tracked. Second time I bought it, it was tracked. | |
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TrevorAyer said: Don’t forget pr deluxe sounded like shit ... not only the brickwalled remaster, the outtakes were sourced from cassette with a serious botch on our destiny and painful eq overall, unfinished versions and burried in a 4 disk set with lazy packaging. Sourced from the vault in pristine quality with final instead of early mixes with a decent eq and packaging ... disk 2 could have been a must have release ... the hype was more about the awful remaster than the outtakes ... everybody already bought purple rain again when he died ... just too many all around bad decisions .. but that is consistent with todays music industry level of intelligence and taste That s bullshit. The unreleased tracks on PR deluxe sounds great, this is the best offer you Can find on the market. | |
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feeluupp said:
Only ROD will point that out, as usual...
Do you all remember his thread back in 2014, go search it under his user profile. He wrote that no new Prince album will ever make the Billboard 200 again... Yet every single released album so far did... By the Way I was right. In his lifetime, Prince never reached the Billboard 200 again with à new album. That was the deal and you know it. . I could have never predicted his death two years After. Him alive, he would have never allowed his music on Spotify. . Since his death, Prince only ranked in the charts his already released albums and greatest Hits. Nothing new. . This is not going to change, since neither Sony nor Warner wants to release à studio album with new material. . So my prédiction is still correct, and Will stay that Way à long, long time I m afraid. . By the Way, what do you think that I was the first here to deduce the Sony deal was about dematerialised-only music? When everybody was talking about physical re-release, expanded éditions and unreleased tracks? [Edited 6/29/18 15:51pm] | |
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