Seahorsie said:

Strive said:

I'm just trying to explain the Jehovah's Witness mindset. They only look towards God's Kingdom. No matter what hardships or horror they face.

During World War 2, they were murdered by the Nazis for not going along with them and imprisoned in America for not going along with them.

You can say there's no choice but there always is. You can choose to be misled and enraged by the media for their agenda or you can look at the bigger picture and put your faith in the coming of His Kingdom. I could go into details about how you're being mislead today but that isn't really a conversation for this forum.

Pray and care for your fellow man. Don't pray and care for the false systems that man built.

Amen. Every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess...

Dearly Beloved, if heaven is a place on earth, it sure starts with some house-cleaning,
and staying in the ethereal ain't not gonna get any job done.

It's like saying the system is so fucked the only chance left is
to build a a parallel world with your own inner logic and system of beliefs.
I'm sorry, but that's precisely what being misled is: you live your life persuaded there's an agenda, and that news can slip on you.
It's OK, we all do it, for sanity. But still, the world is mess, but I face it.

Religion may detach you from the world, that's what I think, but as you say, it's not the place for such deep discussions.

You cannot not care about 'false systems' with God as an alibi.
It's very nice not to be gullible, but fake news does not mean a false world. Real people struggle out there.
Goldman Sachs is not a 'false system', it's very real, it ruins the only planet we have left in the near vicinity.
Europe let people drown these days, women and children, because they don't want to lose a digit of economic growth.
I'm not praying, I'm going in the streets rioting if needed. If a system is false, I'll join the ones who Right the Wrong.
I won't look the other or the upper way, too easy, in my book at least.

And bravo for the Godwin's law.

Trust me, being religious and at inner peace is a luxury the poor can't afford.
Prayers ain't gonna feed them. Acts of God will.

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I think they wouldn't want us to linger in sadness that they are no longer among us. They were deeply concerned about fan copycats, should there be a dark night of the soul and something happened. I sometimes wonder if that might be a factor in the funny pills at the scene, which is the only evidence this was an accident. Was there an attempt to be responsible, even in the face of...? Like when they didn't want W photographed with beer on tour. Wanted to set the better example as much as possible.

They were a very good person, at their core, so.. at the moment I feel like