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Reply #120 posted 05/25/18 6:38am

djThunderfunk

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JorisE73 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Has anyone compared the new release of Nothing Compares 2 U to the outtake? Are they the same track or was the official one "finished" in any way?

From what I can hear on the released version they added Clare Fisher's strings over the synth lines in the outtake and I'm not sure about the background vocals of Susannah and Paul, I can't hear much difference between the two versions in that.


Thanks for your insight!

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Reply #121 posted 05/25/18 10:49am

IstenSzek

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Romeoblu said:

antonb said:
It's great to have Go in better quality because it's a great song and won't be surprised if it's on the warner bros release. Bang Bang I don't like though. But each to there own
Go is top draw, as is most of the 85/86 stuff. We now only have a few known tracks that we need in better quality or the full version of. What we need upgrades of In a Large room Heaven Wally Telepathy Cosmic Day.



i'd also love love, love to have better quality versions of:


Cookie Jar

Uh Huh [The Right One]

Player

We Got The Power

The Voice Inside


drool





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Reply #122 posted 05/25/18 2:05pm

dodger

IstenSzek said:



Romeoblu said:


antonb said:
It's great to have Go in better quality because it's a great song and won't be surprised if it's on the warner bros release. Bang Bang I don't like though. But each to there own

Go is top draw, as is most of the 85/86 stuff. We now only have a few known tracks that we need in better quality or the full version of. What we need upgrades of In a Large room Heaven Wally Telepathy Cosmic Day.



i'd also love love, love to have better quality versions of:


Cookie Jar

Uh Huh [The Right One]

Player

We Got The Power

The Voice Inside


drool







Yes, I’d love better versions of Player and I Wonder
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Reply #123 posted 05/25/18 2:22pm

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:



i'd also love love, love to have better quality versions of:


Cookie Jar

Uh Huh [The Right One]

Player

We Got The Power

The Voice Inside


drool





Yes, I’d love better versions of Player and I Wonder


ugh, seriously, they should just release "player" as a single right now lol music love


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Reply #124 posted 05/25/18 3:28pm

ForceofNature

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playtime92 said:

I disagree, the original leak sounded tinny and lacked detail. This is a much better source.

yeah,sorry i disagree too...much better detail

With 17 Days I really think that the original Closer 2 God is the best to my ears at least - this new one runs at a slower speed and seems to come from the same source as the initial version but with the treble jacked way high to the point of sounding harsh if you want to play it loud

[Edited 5/25/18 15:42pm]

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Reply #125 posted 05/25/18 4:04pm

ForceofNature

With most of them actually! With the exception of "Go", however with Mutiny and High Fasion as well, it just sounds like this "Supreme Sessisions" is the exact same source as Closer 2 God but with people importing the tracks into a DAW and applying their own EQ. To me, I perfer the Closer 2 God versions overall, they have a more organic and less shrill sound balance to them

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Reply #126 posted 05/25/18 4:43pm

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That Temptation Soundcheck from 1984-12-06 in Richfield, OH is finally making the rounds.

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Reply #127 posted 05/25/18 7:26pm

PurpleYoda3121

djThunderfunk said:

That Temptation Soundcheck from 1984-12-06 in Richfield, OH is finally making the rounds.

I'm gonna see if it's worth the hype tomorrow haha

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Reply #128 posted 05/25/18 10:10pm

Romeoblu

ForceofNature said:

With most of them actually! With the exception of "Go", however with Mutiny and High Fasion as well, it just sounds like this "Supreme Sessisions" is the exact same source as Closer 2 God but with people importing the tracks into a DAW and applying their own EQ. To me, I perfer the Closer 2 God versions overall, they have a more organic and less shrill sound balance to them



Yo Mister is much better sounding on this new leak, surely you can't prefer the Closer 2 God version.
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Reply #129 posted 05/25/18 10:57pm

ForceofNature

Romeoblu said:

ForceofNature said:

With most of them actually! With the exception of "Go", however with Mutiny and High Fasion as well, it just sounds like this "Supreme Sessisions" is the exact same source as Closer 2 God but with people importing the tracks into a DAW and applying their own EQ. To me, I perfer the Closer 2 God versions overall, they have a more organic and less shrill sound balance to them

Yo Mister is much better sounding on this new leak, surely you can't prefer the Closer 2 God version.

I was not a big fan of that tune so I didn't really listen to it, but listening to it now it seems to be a better source on this new one, which definitely puts it in the minority of the cuts I paid attention to closely. Mutiny, 17 Days, and High Fasion especially have painfully shrill high end to them that is hard to make them crankable and seem to be the same source as the Closer 2 God versions but with noise reduction and heavy EQ

[Edited 5/25/18 22:59pm]

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Reply #130 posted 05/26/18 4:29pm

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djThunderfunk said:

That Temptation Soundcheck from 1984-12-06 in Richfield, OH is finally making the rounds.


It is amazing music

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Reply #131 posted 05/26/18 7:07pm

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Reply #132 posted 05/26/18 8:48pm

andrewm7

I am really happy that such clean versions of go and yo mister are circulating. These songs are really masterpieces.It is the first time I have heard the “Morris, you took but did you give?” Line at the end of Mutiny biggrin
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Reply #133 posted 05/27/18 11:17am

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luv4u said:

djThunderfunk said:

That Temptation Soundcheck from 1984-12-06 in Richfield, OH is finally making the rounds.


It is amazing music

yeah loving this, a staple in the underrated pile.

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Reply #134 posted 05/27/18 12:04pm

playtime92

ForceofNature said:

Romeoblu said:

ForceofNature said: Yo Mister is much better sounding on this new leak, surely you can't prefer the Closer 2 God version.

I was not a big fan of that tune so I didn't really listen to it, but listening to it now it seems to be a better source on this new one, which definitely puts it in the minority of the cuts I paid attention to closely. Mutiny, 17 Days, and High Fasion especially have painfully shrill high end to them that is hard to make them crankable and seem to be the same source as the Closer 2 God versions but with noise reduction and heavy EQ

[Edited 5/25/18 22:59pm]

I don't know what speakers you are listening to this on but this is pretty blatantly not true? All of these tracks are clear upgrades from the C2G versions...

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Reply #135 posted 05/27/18 12:47pm

IstenSzek

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playtime92 said:

ForceofNature said:

I was not a big fan of that tune so I didn't really listen to it, but listening to it now it seems to be a better source on this new one, which definitely puts it in the minority of the cuts I paid attention to closely. Mutiny, 17 Days, and High Fasion especially have painfully shrill high end to them that is hard to make them crankable and seem to be the same source as the Closer 2 God versions but with noise reduction and heavy EQ

[Edited 5/25/18 22:59pm]

I don't know what speakers you are listening to this on but this is pretty blatantly not true? All of these tracks are clear upgrades from the C2G versions...


i'm not so sure either. it's hard to tell if they are better quality of just tweekd by someone.

it would be very cool if the ones sharing these tracks, if they are indeed better sources, be
willing to say they are just that.

or if indeed someone gets a single outtake in way better quality ('Go') and then packages
it with some of their own updates, that's cool too, but it would be nice to know for sure.

my money is still on Databank. i'll just wait patiently until he's done his comparisons smile

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Reply #136 posted 05/27/18 2:21pm

SteveWask

IstenSzek said:



playtime92 said:




ForceofNature said:



I was not a big fan of that tune so I didn't really listen to it, but listening to it now it seems to be a better source on this new one, which definitely puts it in the minority of the cuts I paid attention to closely. Mutiny, 17 Days, and High Fasion especially have painfully shrill high end to them that is hard to make them crankable and seem to be the same source as the Closer 2 God versions but with noise reduction and heavy EQ


[Edited 5/25/18 22:59pm]





I don't know what speakers you are listening to this on but this is pretty blatantly not true? All of these tracks are clear upgrades from the C2G versions...




i'm not so sure either. it's hard to tell if they are better quality of just tweekd by someone.

it would be very cool if the ones sharing these tracks, if they are indeed better sources, be
willing to say they are just that.

or if indeed someone gets a single outtake in way better quality ('Go') and then packages
it with some of their own updates, that's cool too, but it would be nice to know for sure.

my money is still on Databank. i'll just wait patiently until he's done his comparisons smile



Go is a upgrade all though somebody added there touches to the mix. The rest of them are fan remasters from the original raw files from tape. Somebody just added a Multiband compresser and de hissed them.
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Reply #137 posted 05/27/18 3:45pm

ForceofNature

playtime92 said:

ForceofNature said:

I was not a big fan of that tune so I didn't really listen to it, but listening to it now it seems to be a better source on this new one, which definitely puts it in the minority of the cuts I paid attention to closely. Mutiny, 17 Days, and High Fasion especially have painfully shrill high end to them that is hard to make them crankable and seem to be the same source as the Closer 2 God versions but with noise reduction and heavy EQ

[Edited 5/25/18 22:59pm]

I don't know what speakers you are listening to this on but this is pretty blatantly not true? All of these tracks are clear upgrades from the C2G versions...

Using EQ, 17 Days and the others I mentioned have the exact same sonic profile, transients and all, as the C2G version. Someone took the previous leak and tweaked it, to my ears. Go is a source upgrade for sure but for the ones I mentioned, they sound like the same source but with the treble goosed to give the impression of the veil being lifted, and de-noised.

[Edited 5/27/18 15:49pm]

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Reply #138 posted 05/27/18 5:53pm

galactus

ForceofNature said:

playtime92 said:

I don't know what speakers you are listening to this on but this is pretty blatantly not true? All of these tracks are clear upgrades from the C2G versions...

Using EQ, 17 Days and the others I mentioned have the exact same sonic profile, transients and all, as the C2G version. Someone took the previous leak and tweaked it, to my ears. Go is a source upgrade for sure but for the ones I mentioned, they sound like the same source but with the treble goosed to give the impression of the veil being lifted, and de-noised.

[Edited 5/27/18 15:49pm]

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Everything on C2G was circulated as a lossy quality mp3 file. On the flac leak of these 'new' tracks (not the mp3 version of course), the following tracks are all from clean lossless sources (and should be the best quality available): 17 Days, A Million Miles (I Love You), Eternity, Feline, Go, New Position, It Ain't Over 'Till The Fat Lady Sings, Red Scarlett, Yah U Know, and Yo Mister. The majority of these songs were also from lossy quality sources on the Blast From The Past releases.

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You can verify this with the Lossless Audio Checker program: http://losslessaudiochecker.com/

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Reply #139 posted 05/27/18 6:08pm

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curiouser and curiouser. thanks for all the info you guys thumbs up!


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Reply #140 posted 05/27/18 11:06pm

ForceofNature

galactus said:

ForceofNature said:

Using EQ, 17 Days and the others I mentioned have the exact same sonic profile, transients and all, as the C2G version. Someone took the previous leak and tweaked it, to my ears. Go is a source upgrade for sure but for the ones I mentioned, they sound like the same source but with the treble goosed to give the impression of the veil being lifted, and de-noised.

[Edited 5/27/18 15:49pm]

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Everything on C2G was circulated as a lossy quality mp3 file. On the flac leak of these 'new' tracks (not the mp3 version of course), the following tracks are all from clean lossless sources (and should be the best quality available): 17 Days, A Million Miles (I Love You), Eternity, Feline, Go, New Position, It Ain't Over 'Till The Fat Lady Sings, Red Scarlett, Yah U Know, and Yo Mister. The majority of these songs were also from lossy quality sources on the Blast From The Past releases.

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You can verify this with the Lossless Audio Checker program: http://losslessaudiochecker.com/

But personally based on my listening lossless or lossy, they sound like they come from the same source. For me I just find the EQ choices on this new version to be a bit harsher, and to me if I had to choose between a poorly mastered FLAC file or a high bitrate MP3 with better and less harsh high end, to me the MP3 wins. I still maintain with confidence that 17 Days, Mutiny, and High Fasion especially are all from the same source that C2G got them from

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Reply #141 posted 05/28/18 4:13am

playtime92

galactus said:

ForceofNature said:

Using EQ, 17 Days and the others I mentioned have the exact same sonic profile, transients and all, as the C2G version. Someone took the previous leak and tweaked it, to my ears. Go is a source upgrade for sure but for the ones I mentioned, they sound like the same source but with the treble goosed to give the impression of the veil being lifted, and de-noised.

[Edited 5/27/18 15:49pm]

.

Everything on C2G was circulated as a lossy quality mp3 file. On the flac leak of these 'new' tracks (not the mp3 version of course), the following tracks are all from clean lossless sources (and should be the best quality available): 17 Days, A Million Miles (I Love You), Eternity, Feline, Go, New Position, It Ain't Over 'Till The Fat Lady Sings, Red Scarlett, Yah U Know, and Yo Mister. The majority of these songs were also from lossy quality sources on the Blast From The Past releases.

.

You can verify this with the Lossless Audio Checker program: http://losslessaudiochecker.com/

this.

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Reply #142 posted 05/28/18 4:56am

ForceofNature

playtime92 said:



galactus said:




ForceofNature said:



Using EQ, 17 Days and the others I mentioned have the exact same sonic profile, transients and all, as the C2G version. Someone took the previous leak and tweaked it, to my ears. Go is a source upgrade for sure but for the ones I mentioned, they sound like the same source but with the treble goosed to give the impression of the veil being lifted, and de-noised.


[Edited 5/27/18 15:49pm]




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Everything on C2G was circulated as a lossy quality mp3 file. On the flac leak of these 'new' tracks (not the mp3 version of course), the following tracks are all from clean lossless sources (and should be the best quality available): 17 Days, A Million Miles (I Love You), Eternity, Feline, Go, New Position, It Ain't Over 'Till The Fat Lady Sings, Red Scarlett, Yah U Know, and Yo Mister. The majority of these songs were also from lossy quality sources on the Blast From The Past releases.


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You can verify this with the Lossless Audio Checker program: http://losslessaudiochecker.com/





this.


The "source" I mean isn't in terms of digital bitrate but that the lossy mp3 anx the lossless files both came from the same source, the lossless one just happens to be more heavily doused with unfavorable EQ choices to my ears
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Reply #143 posted 05/28/18 7:49am

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Guys, I'm super sorry I couldn't update the OP, I've been snowed under work for the last 2 weeks (and will be until the end of this week at least). I haven't had the time to track down all those leaks, let alone listening to those I found and sorting out fakes and same quality from real improvements, and I also need to sort out all your contributions.

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In the meantime, I really want to thank every contributor. Please keep posting and discussing. I'll sort it all out eventually.

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Reply #144 posted 05/28/18 7:57am

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Also, please try to refrain from flooding the thread with subjective opinions on the leaks' artistic virtues.

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For the sake of clarity, let's try to keep the thread focused on:

- What new is out, how is it titled/labeled, etc. (no "where to find it", of course, as per board rules)

- Sound quality improvement / New source / New version VS. Same as before falsely labeled as new

- Fake VS. Genuine

- Tape historicity of new leaks

...and any other things that are clearly focused on figuring out what really new is out.

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Thx hug

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Reply #145 posted 05/28/18 2:54pm

TheSilentMikey

So a new collection of multiple songs have re-surfaced but again from a new source than their previous versions. They're circulating in FLAC. However I think all of their timings are off (faster) except for Coco Boys and Cross The Line.

Cross The Line #1 [Upsampled]

Eye No #1 / #2

Glam Slam (Demo)

Anna Stesia (Demo) [Upsampled]

Escape (Demo)

Positivity #1 / #2 / #3

Cross The Line #2

Coco Boys

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[Edited 5/28/18 15:29pm]

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Reply #146 posted 05/29/18 12:24am

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TheSilentMikey said:

So a new collection of multiple songs have re-surfaced but again from a new source than their previous versions. They're circulating in FLAC. However I think all of their timings are off (faster) except for Coco Boys and Cross The Line.

Cross The Line #1 [Upsampled]

Eye No #1 / #2

Glam Slam (Demo)

Anna Stesia (Demo) [Upsampled]

Escape (Demo)

Positivity #1 / #2 / #3

Cross The Line #2

Coco Boys

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[Edited 5/28/18 15:18pm]

[Edited 5/28/18 15:29pm]


I'm not a big fan of the excessive use of noise reduction, but thanks anyway for the lossless upgrade, Mike.


EG

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Reply #147 posted 05/29/18 12:47pm

luvsexy4all

TheSilentMikey said:

So a new collection of multiple songs have re-surfaced but again from a new source than their previous versions. They're circulating in FLAC. However I think all of their timings are off (faster) except for Coco Boys and Cross The Line.

Cross The Line #1 [Upsampled]

Eye No #1 / #2

Glam Slam (Demo)

Anna Stesia (Demo) [Upsampled]

Escape (Demo)

Positivity #1 / #2 / #3

Cross The Line #2

Coco Boys

[Edited 5/28/18 14:58pm]

[Edited 5/28/18 15:18pm]

[Edited 5/28/18 15:29pm]

so these have been"fixed" ? not just untampered with?

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Reply #148 posted 05/29/18 6:18pm

partyup77

However it is that they sound better - they do and I am loving them. Thanks to whoever...

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Reply #149 posted 05/30/18 8:37am

JorisE73

partyup77 said:

However it is that they sound better - they do and I am loving them. Thanks to whoever...


There seems to be a little micro jump in 'Coco Boys' at around 4:45. I can't hear that little jump on the BFTP version.

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