Neversin said:

Some clueless people here do not seem to understand the term "remixed" used by me on this topic, so let me clarify:

There are already fully mixed tracks in Prince's vault, Michael Howe and whomever is in there mixing/remixing these tracks for potential release; for example by pushing all the slides way up and expose every track recorded of a song and leave them there (WTF?!) or leveling them to retarded results, see: "Nothing Compares 2 U" for his personal(?) and quite bullshit mix of Prince's demo with Susannah and Eric Leeds in the mix and then the added Clare Fisher strings and St. Paul's backing vocals track which were recorded for "The Family"'s release of the song and not Prince's demo (version) of the song...

If they wanted to release a Prince solo version then they should have just released his 1991 studio re-recording or have left the original demo for what it is without fucking with it and not remix it into something historically inacurate like they did...

So, it seems we'll be getting these kinds of releases from now on because they fail to adhere to or even consult the numerous research that has been done regarding his recordings...

Neversin.

So the Clare Fisher strings and the backing vocals by St. Paul were never included in any version by Prince? That's somewhat sad, the fact that they needed to add tracks completely unrelated to the original recording in order to "complete" it.

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jdcxc said:

It will be interesting to see who has a better marketing department, Tidal or Warners? PR reissue was one of the cheapest, sloppiest marketing ventures of a major release.

Considering "Purple Rain" was one of the greatest albums WBR has ever released and then they rush release a ghetto "Deluxe" version of it on a non-anniversary date, to profit off of the guys death, and give it a horrible cheap ass treatment with no quality controle whatsoever, scrapping/holding back on the better outtakes of the set to secure a future half-assed release, not release the DVD of First Avenue 1983 with it, again only to secure a future half-assed release and 0 attention to detail, well, then I don't have high hopes for a professional "Prince" release from WBR with tracks probably only fans will be interested in...
It will probably have that cheap ass "The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale" look and feel because they think Prince would have wanted that... Of course the idiots there not understanding that was Prince's way of trying to sabotage that release...

Neversin.

Neversin said:

Neversin said:

pushing all the slides way up and expose every track recorded of a song and leave them there (WTF?!) or leveling them to retarded results
Neversin.

This is what Prince always basically did according to Femi Jiya and other engineers (like the one interviewed about mixing "Kiss". In fact, Jiya said he had to sneak in behind Prince and reduce some levels for the one album Prince allowed to be mixed with more dynamic ranges/traditional variety of presence in the arrangements: Rainbow Children.

Prince considered it to be his sound... even finger cymbals and rain stick up to 11.

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fabriziovenerandi said:

And, btw, another example that BartVanHemelen's statement about "nobody has interest in recent Prince's songs" is a hoax.

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Prince's final album sold mere thousands.

BartVanHemelen said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

And, btw, another example that BartVanHemelen's statement about "nobody has interest in recent Prince's songs" is a hoax.

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Prince's final album sold mere thousands.

Tens of thousands, at the very least.

Bart, Gold Experience was great, right?

BartVanHemelen said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

And, btw, another example that BartVanHemelen's statement about "nobody has interest in recent Prince's songs" is a hoax.

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Prince's final album sold mere thousands.

Hey B., you haven't really left your baby box to grow up, have you? Same gripes for more than 15 years and the crying goes on...

BartVanHemelen said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

And, btw, another example that BartVanHemelen's statement about "nobody has interest in recent Prince's songs" is a hoax.

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Prince's final album sold mere thousands.

A never promoted "volume 2" of old songs without radio and video rotation did not sell well?

VERY STRANGE

BartVanHemelen said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

And, btw, another example that BartVanHemelen's statement about "nobody has interest in recent Prince's songs" is a hoax.

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Prince's final album sold mere thousands.

Why is this dude still atround?!?!? His miserable nature and agressive postings have long been stale, old, and unwelcomed. Leave already. My goodness...

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ThirdStrike said:

OperatingThetan said:

ThirdStrike said:

Why is this dude still atround?!?!? His miserable nature and agressive postings have long been stale, old, and unwelcomed. Leave already. My goodness...

[Edited 5/15/18 15:14pm]

Bart was highly critical of Prince in his posts when I first joined prince.org in 1998. Despite apparently not enjoying a single Prince album or song in over 20 years he's still here...

I have no idea why he's even tolerated in here. He's a troll with some data. That's it. And watch, there'll be those who defenbd him. "He brings valuable knowledge" they'll say. But for fuck's sake, he's rude, obnoxious, and has absoluetely no tact. He needs to be taught a lesson for sure...

ThirdStrike said:

OperatingThetan said:

ThirdStrike said: Bart was highly critical of Prince in his posts when I first joined prince.org in 1998. Despite apparently not enjoying a single Prince album or song in over 20 years he's still here...

I have no idea why he's even tolerated in here. He's a troll with some data. That's it. And watch, there'll be those who defenbd him. "He brings valuable knowledge" they'll say. But for fuck's sake, he's rude, obnoxious, and has absoluetely no tact. He needs to be taught a lesson for sure...

Bart could be a valuable part of the org, but he seems to revel being a fly in the ointment.

imagine an org world...bart and laura only posts

luvsexy4all said:

imagine an org world...bart and laura only posts

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cloveringold85 said:

luvsexy4all said:

imagine an org world...bart and laura only posts

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kinda make your head spin ..in all directions

luvsexy4all said:

cloveringold85 said:

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kinda make your head spin ..in all directions

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Imagine the look on Prince's face when reading it.

littlefrank said:

Its no new music,but aa all good!

NorthC said:

Please guys, let's not turn this into another anti-Bart thread and have this

Exactly folks!

Let's not derail the discussion folks

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/now-tidal-is-accused-of-failing-to-pay-record-labels-on-time/

"fresh revelations from Dagens Næringsliv suggest that TIDAL is significantly behind with its royalty payments to music industry rights-holders.

In a new report, DN suggests that multiple sources have informed it that TIDAL is “behind with payments directly to the three major international record companies”."

I am happy on one hand that we are getting more new music, but on the other, I am a little bit uneasy. Just hope if Jay Z is such a huge P fan like he claims, he will respect and honor P's music and not put a bunch of lame hip hop rappers and remixes on it.

Missmusicluver72 said:

Just hope if Jay Z is such a huge P fan like he claims, he will respect and honor P's music and not put a bunch of lame hip hop rappers and remixes on it.

I won't spend Dollar One on such nonsense. I want it to be known.

eyewishuheaven said:

Missmusicluver72 said:

Just hope if Jay Z is such a huge P fan like he claims, he will respect and honor P's music and not put a bunch of lame hip hop rappers and remixes on it.

I won't spend Dollar One on such nonsense. I want it to be known.

Me neither. Fingers crossed Jay Z will do the right thing.

Missmusicluver72 said:

eyewishuheaven said:

I won't spend Dollar One on such nonsense. I want it to be known.

Me neither. Fingers crossed Jay Z will do the right thing.

But the problem may be that every Jay-Z fan or hip-hop fan will buy that because of the Jay-Z link, and I wouldn't be surprised if that audience shifts more units than Prince's fanbase and I think the only thing that matters to The Estate is how much Money they make and what makes the most money, so we could be screwed. But I think that's the worst case scenario for us.
Imagine a Justin Timberlake 'duet' with Prince on a unreleased song on thois new album like on the MJ album after his death.

JorisE73 said:

Missmusicluver72 said:

Me neither. Fingers crossed Jay Z will do the right thing.

But the problem may be that every Jay-Z fan or hip-hop fan will buy that because of the Jay-Z link, and I wouldn't be surprised if that audience shifts more units than Prince's fanbase and I think the only thing that matters to The Estate is how much Money they make and what makes the most money, so we could be screwed. But I think that's the worst case scenario for us.
Imagine a Justin Timberlake 'duet' with Prince on a unreleased song on thois new album like on the MJ album after his death.

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Oh God, Please No!! Prince would not want that.

JorisE73 said:

Missmusicluver72 said:

Me neither. Fingers crossed Jay Z will do the right thing.

But the problem may be that every Jay-Z fan or hip-hop fan will buy that because of the Jay-Z link, and I wouldn't be surprised if that audience shifts more units than Prince's fanbase and I think the only thing that matters to The Estate is how much Money they make and what makes the most money, so we could be screwed. But I think that's the worst case scenario for us.
Imagine a Justin Timberlake 'duet' with Prince on a unreleased song on thois new album like on the MJ album after his death.

I was thinking that and I am all for new folks getting into P's music. I just don't want the quality to suffer. Yep, at the end of the day though, it is whatever brings in the most money.