You would think some people here on the org will never be happy with any future releases unless Prince himself comes back from the dead to oversee its release. I hardly think JayZ is able to walk down the vault isles with a shopping trolly and drop anything he wants into it. Prince had a plan with the HNR series and from what it looks like is they are compilations of orphaned songs working backwards in time. HNR3 was probably set for outtakes from mid 10's upto 2010 or so.

So it will either be HNR3 or there is an album there that was being worked on. I doubt very much it will be a Crystal Ball type compilation of outtakes from 96 onwards.

love2thenines2003 said:

https://www.rollingstone....um-w520211

"Our only goal is to share Prince's music with his fans as he wanted," Jay-Z says of 2019 album Tidal and the Prince estate announced Friday that, after a lengthy legal battle, the streaming service will debut a new and unreleased Prince album. Due out in 2019, the album will feature a collection of previously unreleased music from Prince's legendary Vault. Tidal will stream the album exclusively for 14 days as well as make the LP available for download a week after its debut. After that period, the Prince estate will handle the global physical release of the collection.

And there you have it... A fucking rapper who's ignorant about anything regarding Prince's music will be selecting music (read: incoherent, irrelevant mess of a release and thrown together songs without any logical structure like "Crystal Ball"...) and decide with other ignorant estate cunts what we will hear...
Don't be surprised if the songs will be "remixed", "completed" with irrelevant tracks and/or edited to fuck like that "Nothing Compares 2 U" release...
Fuck Tidal, Jay-Z and The Estate... Next thing you know they'll have QuestLove write the liner notes full of imagined "facts"...

Neversin.

Neversin said:

love2thenines2003 said:

https://www.rollingstone....um-w520211

And there you have it... A fucking rapper who's ignorant about anything regarding Prince's music will be selecting music (read: incoherent, irrelevant mess of a release and thrown together songs without any logical structure like "Crystal Ball"...) and decide with other ignorant estate cunts what we will hear...
Don't be surprised if the songs will be "remixed", "completed" with irrelevant tracks and/or edited to fuck like that "Nothing Compares 2 U" release...
Fuck Tidal, Jay-Z and The Estate... Next thing you know they'll have QuestLove write the liner notes full of imagined "facts"...

Neversin.

This is my main FEAR....2 !

PS>Neversin...are u aware if in the vaults there are real completed / sequenced Prince albums always unreleased?

thanx 4 ur possible reply?

love2thenines2003 said:

Neversin said:

And there you have it... A fucking rapper who's ignorant about anything regarding Prince's music will be selecting music (read: incoherent, irrelevant mess of a release and thrown together songs without any logical structure like "Crystal Ball"...) and decide with other ignorant estate cunts what we will hear...
Don't be surprised if the songs will be "remixed", "completed" with irrelevant tracks and/or edited to fuck like that "Nothing Compares 2 U" release...
Fuck Tidal, Jay-Z and The Estate... Next thing you know they'll have QuestLove write the liner notes full of imagined "facts"...

Neversin.

This is my main FEAR....2 !

PS>Neversin...are u aware if in the vaults there are real completed / sequenced Prince albums always unreleased?

thanx 4 ur possible reply?

Yes...
There are several sequenced "albums", or at least collections of songs, ready for release...
The problem is some of the stuff on those releases have been released on other albums... But everybody should already know this as this is "Prince 101" since 1982...

And then there's the numerous instrumental projects that were sequenced and edited into potential (untitled) album releases... There's a shitload of those...

Then there are "rejected" sequences/albums Prince wanted out there but wasn't allowed to release...

My guess is the ignorants at The Estate will ignore these and pull them apart because they lack informed people and are "learning" Prince 101 on the fly now and fail to turn to advise from people who already researched Prince and his recorded material for the last 40 years...

Their goal is not to please fans or do archival professional releases but to monetize as much as possible by trying to sell to and engage the general public... Fans will buy shit anyhow so no need to focus on them... That seems to be their stance...

Neversin.

Neversin said:

love2thenines2003 said:

This is my main FEAR....2 !

PS>Neversin...are u aware if in the vaults there are real completed / sequenced Prince albums always unreleased?

thanx 4 ur possible reply?

Yes...
There are several sequenced "albums", or at least collections of songs, ready for release...
The problem is some of the stuff on those releases have been released on other albums... But everybody should already know this as this is "Prince 101" since 1982...

And then there's the numerous instrumental projects that were sequenced and edited into potential (untitled) album releases... There's a shitload of those...

Then there are "rejected" sequences/albums Prince wanted out there but wasn't allowed to release...

My guess is the ignorants at The Estate will ignore these and pull them apart because they lack informed people and are "learning" Prince 101 on the fly now and fail to turn to advise from people who already researched Prince and his recorded material for the last 40 years...

Their goal is not to please fans or do archival professional releases but to monetize as much as possible by trying to sell to and engage the general public... Fans will buy shit anyhow so no need to focus on them... That seems to be their stance...

Neversin.

Thanx so much 4 ur clarifications Neversin...i appreciate ....i think that u are right about these fears & Now Prince is gone....Windows & Doors of the incompetence are fully open ...People Involved exept maybe 4 Michael Howe (but the final word is not up 2 him) are far away to be credible...Business 1st ...RIGHT ?

Rebeljuice said:

You would think some people here on the org will never be happy with any future releases unless Prince himself comes back from the dead to oversee its release. I hardly think JayZ is able to walk down the vault isles with a shopping trolly and drop anything he wants into it. Prince had a plan with the HNR series and from what it looks like is they are compilations of orphaned songs working backwards in time. HNR3 was probably set for outtakes from mid 10's upto 2010 or so.

So it will either be HNR3 or there is an album there that was being worked on. I doubt very much it will be a Crystal Ball type compilation of outtakes from 96 onwards.

that was my first thought too

TrcikyChristopher said:

Doozer said:

I think I worry more about whether or not Tidal will be around in 2019 to release anything at all.

I'm a little disappointed this thread is on page three already and we don't have a plethora of over excited and deluded, speculative tracklistings!

darkroman said:

I'm a little disappointed this thread is on page three already and we don't have a plethora of over excited and deluded, speculative tracklistings!

omg! fake tracklists

let's see, if it's anything like HnR I and II, it would be 'old' tracks and a few new ones:


01: SAMEPAGEDIFFERENTBOOK
02: RUFFENOUGH(VOCAL)
03: FREEURSELF
04: BLACKCOTTONCANDY

05: FRIDAKAHLO
06: STANDUPSTEPBACK
07: GINGERBREADMAN
08: BOYFRIEND
09: INDIFFERENCE
10: AIN'TGONNAMISSUWHENURGONE
11: BUTTERFACE
12: KARMABOOMERANG

other possible inclusions

CHECKTHERECORD
CHAPTERNVERSE
LOVETHYWILLBDONE*


*(rerecorded for "the great gatsby")

If it's not Hit & Run Phase 3, I vote for Welcome 2 America. If it's newly compiled, I vote to add the song Welcome 2 America. Just sayin'... I want that song.

Regardless, count me as happy to get some WB material in September and some post WB stuff next year. I want it all. My only issue at this point is I want at least one of each every year.

[Edited 5/12/18 7:19am]

OperatingThetan said:

Good. Hopefully this finally resolves speculation here about any wrongdoing on Tidal's part. Far from having to remove music or be penalised, Tidal are receiving an additional album of unreleased music.

It doesn't exonerate Tidal from anything, all it does is say that the estate had a price for forgiveness.

leadline said:

OperatingThetan said:

Good. Hopefully this finally resolves speculation here about any wrongdoing on Tidal's part. Far from having to remove music or be penalised, Tidal are receiving an additional album of unreleased music.

It doesn't exonerate Tidal from anything, all it does is say that the estate had a price for forgiveness.

I agree that it doesnt exonerate Tidal.

The problem for the Estate was Phaedra went over to the side of Tidal mostly because she needed to cover up her shady dealings and forged documents.

Even if this did happen there are folks here on the Org. that would still b*tch and complain about what songs were on the tracklist.

Rebeljuice said:

You would think some people here on the org will never be happy with any future releases unless Prince himself comes back from the dead to oversee its release. I hardly think JayZ is able to walk down the vault isles with a shopping trolly and drop anything he wants into it. Prince had a plan with the HNR series and from what it looks like is they are compilations of orphaned songs working backwards in time. HNR3 was probably set for outtakes from mid 10's upto 2010 or so.

So it will either be HNR3 or there is an album there that was being worked on. I doubt very much it will be a Crystal Ball type compilation of outtakes from 96 onwards.

I'd be interested to hear Phase 3 or whatever it will be if they don't mess around with the songs. They should have plenty of completed songs to pick from.

I'd be happy enough with a WB and Tidal/non-WB album every year (even better if a live album/DVD/BD was released too).

I don't get why everybody's so down on this news.

.

Saying that Jay-Z is involved in the song selection is probably nothing more than a publicity stunt. That or the estate is planning on giving him a usb stick full of songs without a home and say "here pick your favorites & sequence them" ... which isn't much different than what Prince use to do. Everybody loved HITNRUN Part 2 but it was a mishmash of misfit songs.

.

Fans have to let go of this idea that we should only get Prince compiled projects. It's cool that we're getting late era material so soon.

Strive said:

I hope that they also sell it in stores on CD format. I like to have the art work, CD package. I'm ol' school like that. Tangible objects!

fabriziovenerandi said:

And, btw, another example that BartVanHemelen's statement about "nobody has interest in recent Prince's songs" is a hoax.

Who gives a stuff what that cretin thinks.

DBW said:

Wolves in sheep clothing.

Good Dick and a Job is coming people. The earthquake is coming to an earhole near u.