pricetag said:

BillieBalloon said:

Some of the stuff was pulled out to photograph by police. It was just a bit chaotic, you know untidy but not grimy.

We're not talking about what the people who came in and took pictures did. The place was obviously worn out outside of the recording space. The Egg looked dilapidated; the underground garage was a black hole; general fixtures and doors looked grimy and battered; and some of the bathrooms looked iffy. The place was obviously a monster to maintain. He should have sold PP years ago. Then he could have just lived in a big house, with a state-of-the-art recording studio in its grounds.

Glad he didn't because I wasn't able to visit PP before; however, I will be visiting shortly (fingers crossed)

LadyLayla said:

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

My grandmother used to tell me that if she passed at home to make sure and come in before the medics/police to ensure:

1. She had on the newest and cleanest underwear
2. We folded all the underwear in her chest of drawers neatly
3. We vacuumed and dusted the house if she hadn't gotten around to it

She went into an assisted living facility at 95 and passed at 98. I saw her that morning before she had the stroke in the afternoon and as always, she was dressed to the nines.

All I know is that "slob" is a relative term. Even with that being said, people on here talking about Prince was a "slob" are crazy. Big difference between something being untidy, junky, old, outdated and worn vs. slob. And it also seems like some of you have a judgmental tone to your comments, like you're disappointed in how he chose to live and take care of his place. Maybe Prince was on to something: if folks are quick to call him a slob, wonder how they would have reacted if he would have checked himself into rehab, disclosed that he had a dependency problem. Logging off, getting annoyed with all this dirty cars in the garage, dilapidated egg, blah, blah, blah. Like your garage is spotless, no chipping paint anywhere at your home, you have an updated 2018 kitchen, no weeds in your flowerbed? If everything is spotless and on point; good for you, or maybe you have OCD. Do you all really even like Prince?

pricetag said:

Lovejunky said:

I agree...

I was actually touched by just how simply and humbly he lived...

Which, of course, is the exact opposite of how he presented himself to the world and wanted others to think.

I think that some of us want to put our best foot forward, image-wise. He'd described his need to do so a long time ago.

>

At any rate, the only image Prince gave us was his stage presentation, his interview and on-the-street attire, and his travel necessities that we peeped.

>

Don't think there was much else flossing, besides maybe our understanding that he built his Paisley Park complex, the staged photos of his homes, and after that, our busy imaginations--which at this point appear to be largely fueled by the last pre-museum photos of the recording studio and apartment before a cleanup. I believe there was a range of living conditions that Prince dealt with in his doings. No shame there! What was photographed of the at his time of death was a random disarray and rundown of a 30-year-old building.

>

It took such a short time after his death to get the complex opened for touring that it couldn't have been in as terrible a condition as some folks speculate, is my guess. As far as his slobiness, well, seems like dude was busy with a bunch of stuff besides cleaning counters and property management, but people will talk.

Asenath said:

All I know is that "slob" is a relative term. Even with that being said, people on here talking about Prince was a "slob" are crazy. Big difference between something being untidy, junky, old, outdated and worn vs. slob. And it also seems like some of you have a judgmental tone to your comments, like you're disappointed in how he chose to live and take care of his place. Maybe Prince was on to something: if folks are quick to call him a slob, wonder how they would have reacted if he would have checked himself into rehab, disclosed that he had a dependency problem. Logging off, getting annoyed with all this dirty cars in the garage, dilapidated egg, blah, blah, blah. Like your garage is spotless, no chipping paint anywhere at your home, you have an updated 2018 kitchen, no weeds in your flowerbed? If everything is spotless and on point; good for you, or maybe you have OCD. Do you all really even like Prince?

Let the church say, "AMEN."

Germanegro said:

pricetag said:

Which, of course, is the exact opposite of how he presented himself to the world and wanted others to think.

I think that some of us want to put our best foot forward, image-wise. He'd described his need to do so a long time ago.

>

At any rate, the only image Prince gave us was his stage presentation, his interview and on-the-street attire, and his travel necessities that we peeped.

>

Don't think there was much else flossing, besides maybe our understanding that he built his Paisley Park complex, the staged photos of his homes, and after that, our busy imaginations--which at this point appear to be largely fueled by the last pre-museum photos of the recording studio and apartment before a cleanup. I believe there was a range of living conditions that Prince dealt with in his doings. No shame there! What was photographed of the at his time of death was a random disarray and rundown of a 30-year-old building.

>

It took such a short time after his death to get the complex opened for touring that it couldn't have been in as terrible a condition as some folks speculate, is my guess. As far as his slobiness, well, seems like dude was busy with a bunch of stuff besides cleaning counters and property management, but people will talk.

Asenath said:

pricetag said:

We're not talking about what the people who came in and took pictures did. The place was obviously worn out outside of the recording space. The Egg looked dilapidated; the underground garage was a black hole; general fixtures and doors looked grimy and battered; and some of the bathrooms looked iffy. The place was obviously a monster to maintain. He should have sold PP years ago. Then he could have just lived in a big house, with a state-of-the-art recording studio in its grounds.

Glad he didn't because I wasn't able to visit PP before; however, I will be visiting shortly (fingers crossed)

This might be a hard thing to hear...but it really isn't about you.

Germanegro said:

pricetag said:

Which, of course, is the exact opposite of how he presented himself to the world and wanted others to think.

I think that some of us want to put our best foot forward, image-wise. He'd described his need to do so a long time ago.

>

At any rate, the only image Prince gave us was his stage presentation, his interview and on-the-street attire, and his travel necessities that we peeped.

>

Don't think there was much else flossing, besides maybe our understanding that he built his Paisley Park complex, the staged photos of his homes, and after that, our busy imaginations--which at this point appear to be largely fueled by the last pre-museum photos of the recording studio and apartment before a cleanup. I believe there was a range of living conditions that Prince dealt with in his doings. No shame there! What was photographed of the at his time of death was a random disarray and rundown of a 30-year-old building.

>

It took such a short time after his death to get the complex opened for touring that it couldn't have been in as terrible a condition as some folks speculate, is my guess. As far as his slobiness, well, seems like dude was busy with a bunch of stuff besides cleaning counters and property management, but people will talk.

Help me out. Did you just agree with me?

Lovejunky said:

pricetag said:

You've expressed what's called a tautology--saying the same thing twice to the extent that one cancels out the other. Of course, he wouldn't care about money if he didn't need it. Now goes ask someone who does need money what they think about it. I'm sure it plays a very important role.

your intellectual word jugglery is quite dry and boring Pricetag....How much do we have to pay you to go away?

I think I destroyed you over something a while back, right? You still hurting over that one? Forget about it. I have.

cloveringold85 said:

Lovejunky said:

pricetag said: your intellectual word jugglery is quite dry and boring Pricetag....How much do we have to pay you to go away?

.

You made me chuckle with that one!

Easily pleased.

Seahorsie said:

Lovejunky said:

Its all perspective Pricetag

JayZ gave Beyonce an engagement ring valued at 5 Million DOllars...!!!

The Whole of Paisley Park is Valued at 10 Million DOllars and most of Princes Jewellery was of the costume Kind

ALl of his so called Excess that you have mentioned above was for the sake of his Art...

and so what he had a few special cars...He deserved them

But he didnt go around splashing millions around for the sake of showing Off....

Thats what excess is...

Yes, now that's it. It's the love of money that will bring you down, not just having alot. He probably just really loved having his own, private studios to create music in. The rest being just fluff...

I love how poor people get to describe gold bars as "fluff".

Germanegro said:

pricetag said:

Which, of course, is the exact opposite of how he presented himself to the world and wanted others to think.

I think that some of us want to put our best foot forward, image-wise. He'd described his need to do so a long time ago.

>

At any rate, the only image Prince gave us was his stage presentation, his interview and on-the-street attire, and his travel necessities that we peeped.

>

Don't think there was much else flossing, besides maybe our understanding that he built his Paisley Park complex, the staged photos of his homes, and after that, our busy imaginations--which at this point appear to be largely fueled by the last pre-museum photos of the recording studio and apartment before a cleanup. I believe there was a range of living conditions that Prince dealt with in his doings. No shame there! What was photographed of the at his time of death was a random disarray and rundown of a 30-year-old building.

>

It took such a short time after his death to get the complex opened for touring that it couldn't have been in as terrible a condition as some folks speculate, is my guess. As far as his slobiness, well, seems like dude was busy with a bunch of stuff besides cleaning counters and property management, but people will talk.

Prince didn't always live at Paisley Park. Plus he had a getaway in Turks & Caicos.Those pictures aren't a accurate representation on how he really lived. Since he was right in the middle of turning PP into a musuem. Also investigators ransacked that place looking for drugs and whatever else they can try to find.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince didn't always live at Paisley Park. Plus he had a getaway in Turks & Caicos.Those pictures aren't a accurate representation on how he really lived. Since he was right in the middle of turning PP into a musuem. Also investigators ransacked that place looking for drugs and whatever else they can try to find.

Who gives a sh!t? I dont care if he wore the same underwear for weeks at a time.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

His personal living quaters "Green Room" is very modest. He probably did not spend very much time there. There is an extra bed; probably for guests? A very small bathroom and shower area--nothing fancy at all. In his room is a TV, small CD player; just basic things. There is a lounge area with a chair and sofa before you enter the green room. Very simple.

Plus the black cover over the TV covered enough so he can hear it.

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I didn't see anything covering the TV.

Asenath said:

pricetag said:

We're not talking about what the people who came in and took pictures did. The place was obviously worn out outside of the recording space. The Egg looked dilapidated; the underground garage was a black hole; general fixtures and doors looked grimy and battered; and some of the bathrooms looked iffy. The place was obviously a monster to maintain. He should have sold PP years ago. Then he could have just lived in a big house, with a state-of-the-art recording studio in its grounds.

Glad he didn't because I wasn't able to visit PP before; however, I will be visiting shortly (fingers crossed)

.

It appears that some of the rooms were being repaired/updated. There was a work order/billing statement for water repair, so they were cleaning-up water damage. I heard that Prince was planning on making PP a museum and eventually, he was going to build a house, or buy a house. Not sure if that was true.

Asenath said:

All I know is that "slob" is a relative term. Even with that being said, people on here talking about Prince was a "slob" are crazy. Big difference between something being untidy, junky, old, outdated and worn vs. slob. And it also seems like some of you have a judgmental tone to your comments, like you're disappointed in how he chose to live and take care of his place. Maybe Prince was on to something: if folks are quick to call him a slob, wonder how they would have reacted if he would have checked himself into rehab, disclosed that he had a dependency problem. Logging off, getting annoyed with all this dirty cars in the garage, dilapidated egg, blah, blah, blah. Like your garage is spotless, no chipping paint anywhere at your home, you have an updated 2018 kitchen, no weeds in your flowerbed? If everything is spotless and on point; good for you, or maybe you have OCD. Do you all really even like Prince?

.

Well said.

I saw the police photos as well. It looked like to me that the police made Prince's estate look like a hot mess. When someone like Prince who was a International icon. All of a sudden he was alive a few hours. Then dead the next. The investiagtion on any death is not clean. They ransack the estate on what cause Prince's death.

Keep in mind, Prince died on April 21, 2016, and the search warrant was not done until May 10th (if I'm not mistaken).

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I question a lot of those pictures in the search warrant, because things were touched and moved and taken out of PP after April 21st.

.

Notice how Prince's bed was stripped (Green Room). Why was his bed stripped?

LadyLayla said:

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

My grandmother used to tell me that if she passed at home to make sure and come in before the medics/police to ensure:

1. She had on the newest and cleanest underwear
2. We folded all the underwear in her chest of drawers neatly
3. We vacuumed and dusted the house if she hadn't gotten around to it

She went into an assisted living facility at 95 and passed at 98. I saw her that morning before she had the stroke in the afternoon and as always, she was dressed to the nines.

when my relative appointed me executor she asked me to make sure to throw out her vibrator before anyone could inventory her estate

cloveringold85 said:

Keep in mind, Prince died on April 21, 2016, and the search warrant was not done until May 10th (if I'm not mistaken).

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I question a lot of those pictures in the search warrant, because things were touched and moved and taken out of PP after April 21st.

.

Notice how Prince's bed was stripped (Green Room). Why was his bed stripped?

There was an immediate search warrant issued for April 21.

The May 10 search warrant is when Carver County Sheriff's Office went back with the DEA for a second search.

If they were getting rid of evidence why didnt they take the almost 100 illegal pills found in the second search?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

Keep in mind, Prince died on April 21, 2016, and the search warrant was not done until May 10th (if I'm not mistaken).

.

I question a lot of those pictures in the search warrant, because things were touched and moved and taken out of PP after April 21st.

.

Notice how Prince's bed was stripped (Green Room). Why was his bed stripped?

There was an immediate search warrant issued for April 21.

The May 10 search warrant is when Carver County Sheriff's Office went back with the DEA for a second search.

If they were getting rid of evidence why didnt they take the almost 100 illegal pills found in the second search?

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Thanks for the correction!

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The pills -- the fact that they were still laying around seems rather odd, to me. Why didn't the authorities collect them the first time??

cloveringold85 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There was an immediate search warrant issued for April 21.

The May 10 search warrant is when Carver County Sheriff's Office went back with the DEA for a second search.

If they were getting rid of evidence why didnt they take the almost 100 illegal pills found in the second search?

.

Thanks for the correction!

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The pills -- the fact that they were still laying around seems rather odd, to me. Why didn't the authorities collect them the first time??

The mere fact that the authorities felt the need to conduct a second search makes me think that they realized, perhaps after talking to people or discovering further info, that there were spaces/places in PP they didn't know about or concluded weren't searched thoroughly enough, or they didn't have access to during their first search. Maybe?

The second search was triggered by the ME reporting to the cops that he died from a massive fentanyl OD which prompted them to get another warrant for more searching. (p 34 of report)

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(The mod will probably direct this discussion to the Death sticky)

LilaLiebe said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Thanks for the correction!

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The pills -- the fact that they were still laying around seems rather odd, to me. Why didn't the authorities collect them the first time??

The mere fact that the authorities felt the need to conduct a second search makes me think that they realized, perhaps after talking to people or discovering further info, that there were spaces/places in PP they didn't know about or concluded weren't searched thoroughly enough, or they didn't have access to during their first search. Maybe?

[Edited 4/30/18 15:07pm]

disch said:

The second search was triggered by the ME reporting to the cops that he died from a massive fentanyl OD which prompted them to get another warrant for more searching. (p 34 of report)

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(The mod will probably direct this discussion to the Death sticky)

LilaLiebe said:

The mere fact that the authorities felt the need to conduct a second search makes me think that they realized, perhaps after talking to people or discovering further info, that there were spaces/places in PP they didn't know about or concluded weren't searched thoroughly enough, or they didn't have access to during their first search. Maybe?

[Edited 4/30/18 15:07pm]

Thanks for the clarification, disch. There's been so much info coming out it makes my head spin and I've not read all the data released by the police so it was a pure guess on my part as to the second search being conducted.

LilaLiebe said:

disch said:

The second search was triggered by the ME reporting to the cops that he died from a massive fentanyl OD which prompted them to get another warrant for more searching. (p 34 of report)

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(The mod will probably direct this discussion to the Death sticky)

[Edited 4/30/18 15:07pm]

Thanks for the clarification, disch. There's been so much info coming out it makes my head spin and I've not read all the data released by the police so it was a pure guess on my part as to the second search being conducted.

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Thanks, Disch!

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This was when the DEA stepped-in, right?

Yeah per the report both the DEA and carver county agents participated in this search. Not sure why they didn't find this stuff the first time around; I don't know if that earlier warrant allowed only for searching in a more limited area or something.

cloveringold85 said:

LilaLiebe said:

Thanks for the clarification, disch. There's been so much info coming out it makes my head spin and I've not read all the data released by the police so it was a pure guess on my part as to the second search being conducted.

.

Thanks, Disch!

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This was when the DEA stepped-in, right?

disch said:

Yeah per the report both the DEA and carver county agents participated in this search. Not sure why they didn't find this stuff the first time around; I don't know if that earlier warrant allowed only for searching in a more limited area or something.

cloveringold85 said:

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Thanks, Disch!

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This was when the DEA stepped-in, right?

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I see now; they probably had to get the DEA there to collect the pills, and then begin their investigation on where those pills may have come from.

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Thanks for the reply!

DarkKnight1 said:

Who gives a sh!t? I dont care if he wore the same underwear for weeks at a time.

he never wore the same underwear twice

pricetag said: