paulludvig said:

One could also say he wasn't big on private luxury. His living quartes look pretty humble. Like the home of someone who's main interest is work.

I agree...

I was actually touched by just how simply and humbly he lived...

benni said:

Don't forget he was talking about, and had even started, trying to turn Paisley Park into a museum. I believe there were already a few rooms done (with the paint work) as to what the wanted those rooms to be. That could explain why a lot of things were out of place, because he was moving them out of rooms where they were normally kept.

That's a good point. When PP opened as a museum 6 months after his death, I was one of the sceptics thinking it seemed like a cash in and he wouldn't have wanted to live in his own memorium.

But the photos taken by the police on the 21st clearly show that he was creating the rooms that now make up the exibits.

Whether this was Prince seeing the end, or simply a commercial venture remains unknown, but the facts are PP was in transition.

Lovejunky said:

Lovejunky said:

paulludvig said:

One could also say he wasn't big on private luxury. His living quartes look pretty humble. Like the home of someone who's main interest is work.

I agree...

I was actually touched by just how simply and humbly he lived...

Which, of course, is the exact opposite of how he presented himself to the world and wanted others to think.

SquirrelMeat said:

benni said:

Don't forget he was talking about, and had even started, trying to turn Paisley Park into a museum. I believe there were already a few rooms done (with the paint work) as to what the wanted those rooms to be. That could explain why a lot of things were out of place, because he was moving them out of rooms where they were normally kept.

That's a good point. When PP opened as a museum 6 months after his death, I was one of the sceptics thinking it seemed like a cash in and he wouldn't have wanted to live in his own memorium.

But the photos taken by the police on the 21st clearly show that he was creating the rooms that now make up the exibits.

Whether this was Prince seeing the end, or simply a commercial venture remains unknown, but the facts are PP was in transition.

Transition is the half it. Someone would need to give those cars a good going over, first.

pricetag said:

Money meant nothing 2 him...hence it was scattered all over PPK from room to room $600 here, $10,000 there, $19 there. It is clear that he simply stopped caring...I was surprised w/ the guitars everywhere. They were scattered room 2 room as well....if he didn't care 4 anything, I would think he would've kept better keep of his guitars. ESPECIALLY the gold symbol 1, even his "new" guitar was in a side room in it's case along w/ some master recordings. I get the impression that dude simply stopped caring...now y he stopped caring is the "?".

Prince was NOT a slob he was in the process of turning his massive estate into a luxury museum. Actually the main parts were pretty tidy. I also LOVED his white bedroom and imagine the green one was for him to really rest in total peace. That place is HUGE!

IstenSzek said:

Genesia said:

So true. When I was refinancing my home a year ago, I spent a solid week before the appraisal cleaning everything - even though a realtor friend told me, "They're not looking at how clean your place is. They're looking at the condition of it and taking measurements for square footage." But it was a stranger coming into my house.

Also... at "hausfrau." I'm picturing Prince with his do-rag on and a feather duster in his hand.

blasting some tunes

oh and i totally get what you're saying about a stranger coming into your house.

last time i had a date come over for drinks i even cleaned my kitchen cabinets and dusted on top
of the wardrobes etc

the date sucked but at least my house was spotless after

Holy crap! You sound like my aunt who would wash my uncle's shirts before sending them to the cleaner so they could be professionally starched and pressed. She didn't want them to see his ring around the collar!

LadyLayla said:

IstenSzek said:

blasting some tunes

oh and i totally get what you're saying about a stranger coming into your house.

last time i had a date come over for drinks i even cleaned my kitchen cabinets and dusted on top
of the wardrobes etc

the date sucked but at least my house was spotless after

Holy crap! You sound like my aunt who would wash my uncle's shirts before sending them to the cleaner so they could be professionally starched and pressed. She didn't want them to see his ring around the collar!

good tip though

nah, j/k

and to think i don't even care if someone else has like a full litterbox right on the coffee table.

it's just that in my own home i'm always cleaning stuff.

jdcxc said:

pricetag said:

Which, of course, is the exact opposite of how he presented himself to the world and wanted others to think.

Not true...Prince never preached excess. And he often spoke of his disdain for the corrupting forces of $$$. Actually, all his career choices and charity endeavors are a testament to that ethic.

I can tell you know very little about the man. Put plainly, you're confusing his supposed personal philosophy towards money with the way he wanted to be perceived in the world--which is what I'm talking about. This is a man who never wore the same outfit twice, rented LA mansions for Hollywood parties, owned custom jewellery, had a line of perfume, had warehouse-sized collections of guitars, clothes, and motor vehicles, and was the proud owner of several gold bars and god-knows what else. AND YOU SAY HE NEVER PREACHED EXCESS! You have no idea what you're talking about do you?

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince was NOT a slob he was in the process of turning his massive estate into a luxury museum. Actually the main parts were pretty tidy. I also LOVED his white bedroom and imagine the green one was for him to really rest in total peace. That place is HUGE!

Yeah, you're right. I envy that green room.

pricetag said:

jdcxc said:

pricetag said: Not true...Prince never preached excess. And he often spoke of his disdain for the corrupting forces of $$$. Actually, all his career choices and charity endeavors are a testament to that ethic.

I can tell you know very little about the man. Put plainly, you're confusing his supposed personal philosophy towards money with the way he wanted to be perceived in the world--which is what I'm talking about. This is a man who never wore the same outfit twice, rented LA mansions for Hollywood parties, owned custom jewellery, had a line of perfume, had warehouse-sized collections of guitars, clothes, and motor vehicles, and was the proud owner of several gold bars and god-knows what else. AND YOU SAY HE NEVER PREACHED EXCESS! You have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Its all perspective Pricetag

JayZ gave Beyonce an engagement ring valued at 5 Million DOllars...!!!

The Whole of Paisley Park is Valued at 10 Million DOllars and most of Princes Jewellery was of the costume Kind

ALl of his so called Excess that you have mentioned above was for the sake of his Art...

and so what he had a few special cars...He deserved them

But he didnt go around splashing millions around for the sake of showing Off....

Thats what excess is...

What I am about to say is all hearsay that I read on a Prince Facebook page in a comment section:

Prince did have contract housekeeping.

These two individuals were contracted to clean Paisley Park. They had no idea who Prince was. Once they got there and saw all the awards on the wall they had to Google his name.

They said Prince would watch them from behind plants/curtains as they worked.

At one point they went back home to Mexico to visit with family and friends for several weeks.

They were contacted by PP employees asking where they had been and said Prince liked how they cleaned, and he needed them to come back but they said they couldnt until they returned from Mexico.

Eventually they had learned of Prince's passing while still in Mexico.

Lovejunky said:

pricetag said:

I can tell you know very little about the man. Put plainly, you're confusing his supposed personal philosophy towards money with the way he wanted to be perceived in the world--which is what I'm talking about. This is a man who never wore the same outfit twice, rented LA mansions for Hollywood parties, owned custom jewellery, had a line of perfume, had warehouse-sized collections of guitars, clothes, and motor vehicles, and was the proud owner of several gold bars and god-knows what else. AND YOU SAY HE NEVER PREACHED EXCESS! You have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Its all perspective Pricetag

JayZ gave Beyonce an engagement ring valued at 5 Million DOllars...!!!

The Whole of Paisley Park is Valued at 10 Million DOllars and most of Princes Jewellery was of the costume Kind

ALl of his so called Excess that you have mentioned above was for the sake of his Art...

and so what he had a few special cars...He deserved them

But he didnt go around splashing millions around for the sake of showing Off....

Thats what excess is...

This is almost too ridiculous to respond too. Mitigating Prince's excessiveness by comparing it to one of the most excessive people on the planet. That's relative in your world, right? Jesus.

pricetag said:

Lovejunky said:

Its all perspective Pricetag

JayZ gave Beyonce an engagement ring valued at 5 Million DOllars...!!!

The Whole of Paisley Park is Valued at 10 Million DOllars and most of Princes Jewellery was of the costume Kind

ALl of his so called Excess that you have mentioned above was for the sake of his Art...

and so what he had a few special cars...He deserved them

But he didnt go around splashing millions around for the sake of showing Off....

Thats what excess is...

This is almost too ridiculous to respond too. Mitigating Prince's excessiveness by comparing it to one of the most excessive people on the planet. That's relative in your world, right? Jesus.

No its relative to the World that the BIGGEST Entertainers LIVE in...

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

jdcxc said:

LadyLayla said:

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

My grandmother used to tell me that if she passed at home to make sure and come in before the medics/police to ensure:

1. She had on the newest and cleanest underwear
2. We folded all the underwear in her chest of drawers neatly
3. We vacuumed and dusted the house if she hadn't gotten around to it

She went into an assisted living facility at 95 and passed at 98. I saw her that morning before she had the stroke in the afternoon and as always, she was dressed to the nines.

Your grandmother sounded like a very lovely lady.

I have to totally agree with her. If she could make the effort up to 98 then we all can!

Sadly Paisley Park did look like chaos. The entrance hall, themed rooms and studios looked beautiful. The conference rooms looked very nice indeed!

Lots of areas looked under maintained. The toilets look like some nasty public toilet on the highstreet or in a night club!

Surely with all of his staff things could have been kept modernised and fresh.

Yet it is unfair to criticise as it was his home and he chose to live the way he did.

SquirrelMeat said:

Come on. He was much more of a slob behind the scene than any of us realised and I quite like it. Did you see the colour of some of the toilets? If I'd left mine like that and my mum had found out, she'd have a fit.

The police didn't interview the cleaner, so they weren't around that regularly. So I've started to get an image of our little Prince going around cleaning the bathrooms on a Sunday. Leaning down the pan with a toilet brush and bleach singing, 'All that glitters, ain't gold!'

...and ...THOSE SEATS WHERE UP!!

I´m very suprised to see how humbly he lived and how messy some of his rooms look. Not judging here and I also don´t think it´s much of a big deal but, based on all accounts so far, from interviews with childhood friends to biographies and books about his studio sessions, I would have expected his private rooms to look much cleaner and more organized, especially his desks and tables.

His neat freak personality seems to have been replaced by a phase of a little bit of chaos toward the end. Not dirty or anything but way more messy than I ´d expected.

Must´ve been difficult to keep such a huge place tidy all the time.

The parts of Paisley Park that I´ve seen so far over the years always looked squeaky clean and supertidy to me, so seeing his private quarters and stuff like makeup and creams, brushes and supplements all over the place surprised me a bit.

On a slightly different note, it would be great to see floor plans of Paisley park with an indicator of which pictures came from where.

Just to give it context.

LadyLayla said:

IstenSzek said:

blasting some tunes

oh and i totally get what you're saying about a stranger coming into your house.

last time i had a date come over for drinks i even cleaned my kitchen cabinets and dusted on top
of the wardrobes etc

the date sucked but at least my house was spotless after

Holy crap! You sound like my aunt who would wash my uncle's shirts before sending them to the cleaner so they could be professionally starched and pressed. She didn't want them to see his ring around the collar!

This is exactly why I've never had a cleaning service. I'd have to clean the house before someone came to clean the house.

Hell, if I go for a pedicure, I trim my own toenails, sand my own calluses, and shave my legs before anyone else lays a finger on them.

Yes - I am crazy.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

Why the heck was art work sitting on the kitchen/dining room floor for? His living quarters was not clean and it was like there was no upkeep to the building. The cars in the garage, sitting there with dust and crap all over them. It's like he didn't have any pride in PP anymore.

What? The public part of the house seemed fine to me. Maybe not in the best possible taste, but well kept. He had recently refurbished one of the concert venues for the opening night of the P&M tour.

Exactly! It looked like a place where a normal person lived. What was clean is what was suppose to be clean.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

What I am about to say is all hearsay that I read on a Prince Facebook page in a comment section:

Prince did have contract housekeeping.

These two individuals were contracted to clean Paisley Park. They had no idea who Prince was. Once they got there and saw all the awards on the wall they had to Google his name.

They said Prince would watch them from behind plants/curtains as they worked.

At one point they went back home to Mexico to visit with family and friends for several weeks.

They were contacted by PP employees asking where they had been and said Prince liked how they cleaned, and he needed them to come back but they said they couldnt until they returned from Mexico.

Eventually they had learned of Prince's passing while still in Mexico.

Why would he watch them from behind plants and curtains, I wonder?

gandorb said:

I am surprised no one mentioned here the potential impact of his drug use. This eventually takes a toll in keeping up with the details behind the scenes, even though he could do so publicly.

I don't know why that would be a surprise. We all know he had a drug problem and that that sort of thing takes a toll on a person's day to day existence. Maybe people just don't feel the need to beat it to death any further.

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Why the heck was art work sitting on the kitchen/dining room floor for? His living quarters was not clean and it was like there was no upkeep to the building. The cars in the garage, sitting there with dust and crap all over them. It's like he didn't have any pride in PP anymore.

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I thought his living quarters were relatively neat and tidy, with the exception of his make-up table.

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The business area was very clean.

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He did not have much in his bedroom. Nothing fancy, really.

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The rest of the place looked like it was ransacked, and some of the rooms look like they were packing-up stuff.