It's funny reading all the comments regarding the Paisley Park police photos at what a messy "slob" Prince was.

I don't see a messy slob at all!

Sure, he's comfortable with a bit of chaos and disorganization - the piles of recordings, tapes, books, the unpacked suit cases, etc. - but what I see instead is the private quarters of somehow who was a workaholic and who traveled A LOT.

A "slob" would have literally a dirty area around them and have things like half-consumed plates of food lying around. If you want to see what a slob's bedroom looks like find a teenaged boy's dorm room and witness the disgust, LOL.

Truthfully, I am a pretty neat guy but when I travel for work my hotel room after just a day to two looks like Prince's green bedroom... Clothes laying about, some toiletries lying around, a bit of random flotsam and jetsum strewn aobut, etc.

Prince actually lived there but it looks like was he being busy moving out to a smaller house. (I miss cabinets , lockers and side tables. )

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soladeo1 said:

It's funny reading all the comments regarding the Paisley Park police photos at what a messy "slob" Prince was.

I don't see a messy slob at all!

Sure, he's comfortable with a bit of chaos and disorganization - the piles of recordings, tapes, books, the unpacked suit cases, etc. - but what I see instead is the private quarters of somehow who was a workaholic and who traveled A LOT.

A "slob" would have literally a dirty area around them and have things like half-consumed plates of food lying around. If you want to see what a slob's bedroom looks like find a teenaged boy's dorm room and witness the disgust, LOL.

Truthfully, I am a pretty neat guy but when I travel for work my hotel room after just a day to two looks like Prince's green bedroom... Clothes laying about, some toiletries lying around, a bit of random flotsam and jetsum strewn aobut, etc.

I can stand a little flotsam but I absolutely draw the line at jetsum.

One could also say he wasn't big on private luxury. His living quartes look pretty humble. Like the home of someone who's main interest is work.

paulludvig said:

BillieBalloon said:

paulludvig said:

One could also say he wasn't big on private luxury. His living quartes look pretty humble. Like the home of someone who's main interest is work.

I agree, but his houses like the one in Spain and the one in Turks were luxurious. He stayed in the best hotels. During the Earth tour he stayed at the Dorchester which is one of the top hotels you will find.

When the houses in Spain and Turks were photographed, it was by appointment and for a specific purpose. And hotels have people on staff to keep shit clean.

Who did Prince have keeping things neat and tidy for him at Paisley? Have we forgotten the stories that came out about his attempts to do laundry and load a dishwasher back in the day?

Prince never had to take care of himself in any real, day-to-day sense until near the end. It makes a big difference if you have regular staff or - more importantly - a wife around.

Don't forget, PP was ransacked after Prince passed away.

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From what I saw, all his living areas and the business office seemed very neat and tidy.

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Prince did not have a large staff anymore. It appears in some of the rooms that they were trying to clean out some rooms and get things organized.

Genesia said:

jdcxc said:

Genesia said:

When the houses in Spain and Turks were photographed, it was by appointment and for a specific purpose. And hotels have people on staff to keep shit clean.

Who did Prince have keeping things neat and tidy for him at Paisley? Have we forgotten the stories that came out about his attempts to do laundry and load a dishwasher back in the day?

Prince never had to take care of himself in any real, day-to-day sense until near the end. It makes a big difference if you have regular staff or - more importantly - a wife around.

True. Also, constant travel creates a life of organized chaos. Didn’t Prince move into Paisley Park fairly recently?

When I'm doing a play (which never even involves travel), my routine goes something like this: Grab my lunch and stuff I need for work, go to work, come home and drop that shit, eat (dirtying more dishes), change clothes and drop those, pick up more shit that I need for rehearsal or a performance, come home, drop that shit, and go to bed. Repeat daily for six to eight weeks.

You can imagine what my place looks like at the end of that - even though I do my best to tidy up on the weekends. I'm sure Prince had similar issues.

BillieBalloon said:

Some of the stuff was pulled out to photograph by police. It was just a bit chaotic, you know untidy but not grimy.

We're not talking about what the people who came in and took pictures did. The place was obviously worn out outside of the recording space. The Egg looked dilapidated; the underground garage was a black hole; general fixtures and doors looked grimy and battered; and some of the bathrooms looked iffy. The place was obviously a monster to maintain. He should have sold PP years ago. Then he could have just lived in a big house, with a state-of-the-art recording studio in its grounds.

Genesia said:

I had originally posted something about the cleanliness of PP but I felt bad about it so I deleted my thread. It was sad to see. And I wanted to be judgemental about it at first, because it was like "Really, Prince?" but then I thought about my own apartments and living spaces in my own life and they weren't always spotless either. Actually, they rarely were. Even with the nice home that I own now, things do get out of disarray from time to time. And PP was obviously gigantic, so yes, that would have been a lot to keep up with, especially from someone so dedicated to his work.

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I wanted to judge, but have since regretted that, and now I just feel bad for the guy.

pricetag said:

His real bedroom was modest. Looked a little disheveled but clean.

RodeoSchro said:

soladeo1 said:

It's funny reading all the comments regarding the Paisley Park police photos at what a messy "slob" Prince was.

I don't see a messy slob at all!

Sure, he's comfortable with a bit of chaos and disorganization - the piles of recordings, tapes, books, the unpacked suit cases, etc. - but what I see instead is the private quarters of somehow who was a workaholic and who traveled A LOT.

A "slob" would have literally a dirty area around them and have things like half-consumed plates of food lying around. If you want to see what a slob's bedroom looks like find a teenaged boy's dorm room and witness the disgust, LOL.

Truthfully, I am a pretty neat guy but when I travel for work my hotel room after just a day to two looks like Prince's green bedroom... Clothes laying about, some toiletries lying around, a bit of random flotsam and jetsum strewn aobut, etc.

I can stand a little flotsam but I absolutely draw the line at jetsum.

Oh my!!!

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

paulludvig said:

One could also say he wasn't big on private luxury. His living quartes look pretty humble. Like the home of someone who's main interest is work.

Haven't see many photos but thought of this: (Didn't know it would come out this big!

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

So true. When I was refinancing my home a year ago, I spent a solid week before the appraisal cleaning everything - even though a realtor friend told me, "They're not looking at how clean your place is. They're looking at the condition of it and taking measurements for square footage." But it was a stranger coming into my house.

Also... at "hausfrau." I'm picturing Prince with his do-rag on and a feather duster in his hand.

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

My grandmother used to tell me that if she passed at home to make sure and come in before the medics/police to ensure:

1. She had on the newest and cleanest underwear
2. We folded all the underwear in her chest of drawers neatly
3. We vacuumed and dusted the house if she hadn't gotten around to it

She went into an assisted living facility at 95 and passed at 98. I saw her that morning before she had the stroke in the afternoon and as always, she was dressed to the nines.

Genesia said:

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

So true. When I was refinancing my home a year ago, I spent a solid week before the appraisal cleaning everything - even though a realtor friend told me, "They're not looking at how clean your place is. They're looking at the condition of it and taking measurements for square footage." But it was a stranger coming into my house.

Also... at "hausfrau." I'm picturing Prince with his do-rag on and a feather duster in his hand.

blasting some tunes

oh and i totally get what you're saying about a stranger coming into your house.

last time i had a date come over for drinks i even cleaned my kitchen cabinets and dusted on top
of the wardrobes etc

the date sucked but at least my house was spotless after

LadyLayla said:

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

My grandmother used to tell me that if she passed at home to make sure and come in before the medics/police to ensure:

1. She had on the newest and cleanest underwear
2. We folded all the underwear in her chest of drawers neatly
3. We vacuumed and dusted the house if she hadn't gotten around to it

She went into an assisted living facility at 95 and passed at 98. I saw her that morning before she had the stroke in the afternoon and as always, she was dressed to the nines.

i think i would have liked your grandmother a lot

BillieBalloon said:

pricetag said:

We're not talking about what the people who came in and took pictures did. The place was obviously worn out outside of the recording space. The Egg looked dilapidated; the underground garage was a black hole; general fixtures and doors looked grimy and battered; and some of the bathrooms looked iffy. The place was obviously a monster to maintain. He should have sold PP years ago. Then he could have just lived in a big house, with a state-of-the-art recording studio in its grounds.

Im sure at times that place was hemorrhaging money, but i think giving it up would be to accept defeat and he wasnt going to do that. PP was a beacon of his success and a part of his whole persona the way Gracelamd was to Elvis. I think he prioritised the money and changing door knobs and updating bathrooms were at the bottom of the list. The studios is where the magic happened and maybe thats where the money went.

The reason we're having this conversation is because the opposite is true.

IstenSzek said:

y'all best pray that the police don't come into your houses and get to happy snappin'
away at all your cupboards, cabinets, suitcases and drawers. let alone your trashcan

eventhough i'm pretty much a clean freak myself, i found it endearing to see that he
didn't put his cds back in their designated cases and just had tons of scraps of paper
with numbers and notes everywhere he had other things on his mind. you can't be
recording so much music, touring, dating, mentoring, curating etc etc as he was and
also be some dilligent little hausfrau.

Comparing Prince to your life, or anyone on this forum, doesn't help, or mean anything, because it's not comparing like with like.

Come on. He was much more of a slob behind the scene than any of us realised and I quite like it. Did you see the colour of some of the toilets? If I'd left mine like that and my mum had found out, she'd have a fit.

The police didn't interview the cleaner, so they weren't around that regularly. So I've started to get an image of our little Prince going around cleaning the bathrooms on a Sunday. Leaning down the pan with a toilet brush and bleach singing, 'All that glitters, ain't gold!'

Why the heck was art work sitting on the kitchen/dining room floor for? His living quarters was not clean and it was like there was no upkeep to the building. The cars in the garage, sitting there with dust and crap all over them. It's like he didn't have any pride in PP anymore.

now all these assumptions will be out of hand with this new info ..

Don't forget he was talking about, and had even started, trying to turn Paisley Park into a museum. I believe there were already a few rooms done (with the paint work) as to what the wanted those rooms to be. That could explain why a lot of things were out of place, because he was moving them out of rooms where they were normally kept.

IstenSzek said:

SquirrelMeat said: