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Thread started 04/23/18 6:38am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Chris Moon on Prince

This is a nice story. Kind of bittersweet...


https://www.billboard.com...n-pre-fame

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Reply #1 posted 04/23/18 6:51am

E319

Great article. Never knew there was a connection between "Under the Cherry Moon" and Chris Moon.

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Reply #2 posted 04/23/18 8:29am

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As Prince went on to rule the music world, Moon always remembered him as “the little guy in the studio who couldn’t sing” while they had less contact. Once, though, Moon recalls that “he did call me after he was doing pretty well, and he said, ‘You know, it’s really difficult being famous. I never imagined it would be this lonely. I had no idea that when you’re famous you can’t trust anyone around you, because everyone around you wants something. I just don’t know who to trust anymore. You’re the only person who’s ever done something for me and not expected something back.’”

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Reply #3 posted 04/23/18 9:02am

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Wow wow wow. What a great article and piece of insight.

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Reply #4 posted 04/23/18 9:55am

paulludvig

This story is hard to believe.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #5 posted 04/23/18 9:59am

OnlyNDaUsa

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paulludvig said:

This story is hard to believe.

it is not all that new... the story of the pillows is old. The C Moon thing was mentioned decads ago.

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Reply #6 posted 04/23/18 10:00am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Wow wow wow. What a great article and piece of insight.

yeah... and makes me more annoyed to see someone else claim to have "discovered" him.

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Reply #7 posted 04/23/18 11:03am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



paulludvig said:


This story is hard to believe.



it is not all that new... the story of the pillows is old. The C Moon thing was mentioned decads ago.



Do you helieve Under the Cherry Moon was abour Chris Moon?
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #8 posted 04/23/18 11:08am

OnlyNDaUsa

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paulludvig said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it is not all that new... the story of the pillows is old. The C Moon thing was mentioned decads ago.

Do you helieve Under the Cherry Moon was abour Chris Moon?

I do not think Chris would lie about that....but consider this... Prince did perform Soft and Wet during the Parade shows...maybe that was a clue?

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Reply #9 posted 04/23/18 11:20am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

This is a nice story. Kind of bittersweet...


https://www.billboard.com...n-pre-fame

Thanks for sharing, mister. Great read.

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Reply #10 posted 04/23/18 11:41am

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I heart this so much.

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Reply #11 posted 04/23/18 11:42am

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Great read. I was picked on in school and can relate to what P went through. Makes me feel sad for him.

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Reply #12 posted 04/23/18 12:05pm

paulludvig

OnlyNDaUsa said:



paulludvig said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




it is not all that new... the story of the pillows is old. The C Moon thing was mentioned decads ago.



Do you helieve Under the Cherry Moon was abour Chris Moon?



I do not think Chris would lie about that....but consider this... Prince did perform Soft and Wet during the Parade shows...maybe that was a clue?



But why? Were they lovers?
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #13 posted 04/23/18 3:15pm

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This was very touching and sad.

Great read, thanks a lot for posting.

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Reply #14 posted 04/23/18 3:41pm

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paulludvig said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I do not think Chris would lie about that....but consider this... Prince did perform Soft and Wet during the Parade shows...maybe that was a clue?

But why? Were they lovers?

no dummy, soft and wet was cowritten by moon.

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Reply #15 posted 04/23/18 3:49pm

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Thanks, I really enjoyed this article.

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Reply #16 posted 04/23/18 4:09pm

PeteSilas

i'd never heard that prince called chris, he was really important to prince, as were all the guys right up to purple rain, they all did their share and better yet, prince seemed to know when to leave them, which weaker men, (like elvis) always had a problem with. Prince was as cold and unloyal as he had to be to grow, thank god for that.(don't want that misinterpreted).

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Reply #17 posted 04/23/18 4:30pm

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The fun part was Prince insisting not to be called Prince. Imagine of Moon had agreed to market Prince as Mr. Nelson?

"There is already a Mr. Nelson, his name is Willie" lol

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Reply #18 posted 04/23/18 6:26pm

PeteSilas

Wouldn't have changed much I don't think. Icons like Elvis don't even need a last name.
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Reply #19 posted 04/24/18 6:07am

paulludvig

PeteSilas said:



paulludvig said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




I do not think Chris would lie about that....but consider this... Prince did perform Soft and Wet during the Parade shows...maybe that was a clue?



But why? Were they lovers?

no dummy, soft and wet was cowritten by moon.



I know thst. But I don't think that would be enough to dedicate a movie to him several years after.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #20 posted 04/24/18 6:39am

OnlyNDaUsa

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paulludvig said:

PeteSilas said:

no dummy, soft and wet was cowritten by moon.

I know thst. But I don't think that would be enough to dedicate a movie to him several years after.

and no one suggested that at all. you seem to be calling Chris a liar. I am saying there is no reason for him to lie. The evidence is that the Character was named Christopher... and there is a shot of a letter C next to an image of a MOON...and during the tour he started to sing "Soft and Wet"

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Reply #21 posted 04/24/18 7:35am

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Husney took Prince to Los Angeles, where he signed a second contract with Warner Bros. Records, recorded "Soft and Wet," his first single, and completed his debut solo album, For You. Insisting on creative independence, Prince wrote, produced, arranged, composed and played all 27 instruments on the recording, the only exception being the co-operation with Moon on "Soft and Wet."[16] For You was released in 1978. It sold between 150,000–200,000 copies, while the single "Soft and Wet" sold around 350,000.[17] Over time, Prince and Moon forged a professional alliance that eventually resulted in financial settlements.[3]



Financial settlements?

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Reply #22 posted 04/24/18 8:02am

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Good read.

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Reply #23 posted 04/24/18 8:25am

OnlyNDaUsa

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benni said:

Husney took Prince to Los Angeles, where he signed a second contract with Warner Bros. Records, recorded "Soft and Wet," his first single, and completed his debut solo album, For You. Insisting on creative independence, Prince wrote, produced, arranged, composed and played all 27 instruments on the recording, the only exception being the co-operation with Moon on "Soft and Wet."[16] For You was released in 1978. It sold between 150,000–200,000 copies, while the single "Soft and Wet" sold around 350,000.[17] Over time, Prince and Moon forged a professional alliance that eventually resulted in financial settlements.[3]



Financial settlements?

That might have something to do with "My Love is Forever" which Moon wrote the lyrics for. But they seemed to have decided to trade that for "Make it Through the Storm."

also: who knows how well accounted for Moon's share of the royalties for Soft and Wet were kept. With it being on 3 other albums (the Hits, Very Best of, and the MC Hammer thing) there could have been some disagreement as to how much was owed.


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Reply #24 posted 04/24/18 12:07pm

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paulludvig said:

PeteSilas said:

no dummy, soft and wet was cowritten by moon.

I know thst. But I don't think that would be enough to dedicate a movie to him several years after.

i hear you but Prince did a lot of things that don't make sense to us, we are outside of the situation. Maybe he realized how lucky he was to meet Moon/Husney who actually got his foot in the door, who knows how many years it would have taken him on his own.

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Reply #25 posted 04/24/18 12:22pm

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PeteSilas said:

paulludvig said:

PeteSilas said: I know thst. But I don't think that would be enough to dedicate a movie to him several years after.

i hear you but Prince did a lot of things that don't make sense to us, we are outside of the situation. Maybe he realized how lucky he was to meet Moon/Husney who actually got his foot in the door, who knows how many years it would have taken him on his own.



Absolutely.
It's never just about how talented you are, there is always a bit of luck and circumstance involved. For example, a lot of folks forget how important something like networking is.

[Edited 4/24/18 12:24pm]

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Reply #26 posted 04/24/18 12:31pm

RJOrion

paulludvig said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I do not think Chris would lie about that....but consider this... Prince did perform Soft and Wet during the Parade shows...maybe that was a clue?

But why? Were they lovers?

i have wondered this...what white man lets a strange, withdrawn, but pretty, black teenage boy, (and his northside friends) have complete access to his recording studio and GIVES HIM THE KEYS TO THE BUILDING?... and why/how did P trust this guy so much?...he had NO prior track record of any success in music...

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Reply #27 posted 04/24/18 1:33pm

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paulludvig said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: But why? Were they lovers?

i have wondered this...what white man lets a strange, withdrawn, but pretty, black teenage boy, (and his northside friends) have complete access to his recording studio and GIVES HIM THE KEYS TO THE BUILDING?... and why/how did P trust this guy so much?...he had NO prior track record of any success in music...

could be man, shit happens, i never got that vibe but ya, i'm on board, shit is rife. Even in a sport like boxing where a sixteen year old kid like sugar ray leonard could kayo most grown men in seconds, he was manipulated into being molested for cash. I never did believe his claims that he let the guy go only so far, i think he probably went the whole nine fucking yards, and then other amateur boxers mentioned how it was something that happened in the sport. Possible, yes, never got that vibe off of Moon.

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Reply #28 posted 04/24/18 1:34pm

PeteSilas

on the other side my brother, I've thought of training young kids because I would love it, but I won't do it because of freaks like that. I don't need to do it. I barely have time to train myself.

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Reply #29 posted 04/24/18 10:06pm

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RJOrion said:

paulludvig said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: But why? Were they lovers?

i have wondered this...what white man lets a strange, withdrawn, but pretty, black teenage boy, (and his northside friends) have complete access to his recording studio and GIVES HIM THE KEYS TO THE BUILDING?... and why/how did P trust this guy so much?...he had NO prior track record of any success in music...

I just had to laugh reading your comment after having just read a quote in the article "... put a pillow on the studio floor, and I said, ‘Lay down, put your head on the pillow.’ I covered him up under a blanket and made a little bed for him in the middle of the studio." lol

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