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Reply #540 posted 04/25/18 12:16pm

disch

yeah i'll try to see if i can find it (unless there's a obvious word to search on, tracking stuff like this down is a like a needle in a haystack)

NotACleverName said:

Thank you, disch! At least I know I actually read it and can pinpoint, to some extent, where to find it. Whew, huge relief. disch said:

i recall something like that -- Kirk had said to someone at the hospital that he was suprised Prince was doing/had done this again, something to that effect

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Reply #541 posted 04/25/18 12:19pm

KiowaTrl

Musze said:

So Carver & NYT are hosting the 200 plus pages of investigation files... does anyone know where the Paisley Pics (NOT including pics of Prince/death scene) may be hosted in a slideshow format or something similar?

I'm curious about where the Paisley pics are located also. Are these in the Electronic Records Site 1 and 2 on the Carver website? If so, can someone say which of the zip files they are located in?

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Reply #542 posted 04/25/18 12:21pm

PeteSilas

1Sasha said:

PeteSilas said:

quit being drama queen, no one here would "chew your head off" over Larry, everyone but me hated him it seemed.

I don't think I've ever been a drama queen, but the push back was real and intense.

i've been here since 03 or 04 (minus a few years for bans) and I rarely saw anyone say anything good about Larry, generally he is hated here, maybe the few fans he had got to gether and ganged up on you.

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Reply #543 posted 04/25/18 12:22pm

disch

Paisley photos from 4/21 and 4/26 are in Records_2

Paisley photos from 5/10 and 5/11 are in Records_4

KiowaTrl said:

Musze said:

So Carver & NYT are hosting the 200 plus pages of investigation files... does anyone know where the Paisley Pics (NOT including pics of Prince/death scene) may be hosted in a slideshow format or something similar?

I'm curious about where the Paisley pics are located also. Are these in the Electronic Records Site 1 and 2 on the Carver website? If so, can someone say which of the zip files they are located in?

[Edited 4/25/18 12:23pm]

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Reply #544 posted 04/25/18 12:23pm

PeteSilas

leecaldon said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

XxAxX said: Also to this speculation, it was noted that his face was moist and the temp inside PP was 75 And those three having a secret app to hide what they were discussing [Edited 4/24/18 15:31pm]

You say 'secret app' like it was something nefarious. But WhatsApp is the most popular messaging app in the world.

is it? i never heard of it, does it allow you to block numbers? personal question for numbers i don't want to get texts form

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Reply #545 posted 04/25/18 12:23pm

PurpleDiamonds
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XxAxX said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


These file's are very clear! Prince was in pain and got addicted to opiates. I know i wrote on here that someone close to prince's camp that he had cancer but tyat person was wrong, we now know the truth and we need to accept that truth and stop making up theories


i'm just curious: why would Prince need a presciption for painkillers from Dr. Schulenberg in Kirk's name when Paisley Park was apparently littered with various types of painkillers? why didn't Prince just take whatever he had on hand?


Agree with you. The story given does not add up
The pills may have been scattered after Prince was died to paint a pic of either he was taking all these pills and he died or to look as if it was suicide...all staged
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Reply #546 posted 04/25/18 12:24pm

cloveringold85

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

cloveringold85 said:

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In these past few days, it's become clear to us that Prince had snakes working for him. It is my personal belief that these snakes knew Prince was in a weakened state and not strong enough to defend himself. They all sat back and watched while Prince's health declined from the use of Opiates, until pretending to do something at the last minute, just to make it all look good, you see?

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Just like an animal in the wild -- when they see a sick or dying animal who can no longer defend themselves, they pounce on their prey!!

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They all knew in their minds that it was just a matter of a few weeks or a few days, until Prince would be gone and out of their way, so they could get their filthy hands on Prince's money!

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Really disgusting. What these people did is unspeakable!! mad shake

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They all took advantage of a man who was very sick!! mad mad

and it had been going on for YEARS.....I once wrote that he died of "neglect" and prizefight told me that post brought her to tears.

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Neglected, for sure. Totally alone, and no one to trust. He suffered alone in pain, and no one cared. sad

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #547 posted 04/25/18 12:25pm

disch

we don't know that he needed it -- we know that Kirk arranged for it. It's possible kirk didn't know about his secret illegal stash (and prince didn't tell him -- who knows maybe he thought, sure i could always use more)

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

XxAxX said:


i'm just curious: why would Prince need a presciption for painkillers from Dr. Schulenberg in Kirk's name when Paisley Park was apparently littered with various types of painkillers? why didn't Prince just take whatever he had on hand?

Agree with you. The story given does not add up The pills may have been scattered after Prince was died to paint a pic of either he was taking all these pills and he died or to look as if it was suicide...all staged

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Reply #548 posted 04/25/18 12:25pm

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Cub receipt is dated 10/1/2015. He was using Enema's since then??? eek

sidenote: wish my receipts after so many months looked that good.

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Reply #549 posted 04/25/18 12:26pm

PeteSilas

ksl1974 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:


Sorta lol . With her, it was always someone else who was wrong, somebody else's fault. However, it is wrong of me to speak ill of the dead...

Sorry to be off topic..but are we talking about the "Laura" that used to post on here a lot. Im just on here sportically and can't remember the user name I'm thinking of. Did something happen to her? I just remember a "Laura"- something ...that posted quite a bit

lauras in fine form, just go over to lipstick alley and say high, i might.

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Reply #550 posted 04/25/18 12:28pm

cloveringold85

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kmama07 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Kirk is so full of it!! He was giving pills to Prince. He was being so protective of Prince and trying to protect his privacy, meanwhile......enabling and endangering his friend, Prince.

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In Kirk's twisted mind, he probably thinks he was doing right by Prince and being a good friend.

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Kirk, Tyka, and all the rest of them act like "Oh well, Prince is gone, he took some bad pills", and leave it at that. They seem to just accept it and shrug it off like it's nothing.

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These people are worse than a Twilight Zone episode!! rolleyes

Twilight zone comment made me chuckle. Ya, I was thinking about how easy it is for us "common folk" to wish our lives were glamorous in the way we may have thought his was...and others like him. Now that we've discussed all this shit over the past two years, and especially since the documents were released, I don't envy him at all. At least I know the people around me (friends and most importantly family) are legit and on my side.

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Prince's life, at least towards the end, seemed anything but glamorous.

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When there is money around (cash cow); you begin to see people's true colors.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #551 posted 04/25/18 12:31pm

precioux

MMJas said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Everyone should listen to the audio from Debra Johnson's interview. It cut off in the middle though.

They (Phaedra, Van, Rhonda Trotter) got rid of his deal with Universal against Debra's advice.


Then the royalties were going into an entity owned by Phaedra!


When Debra questioned this she was fired.

This is what I was refering to.
Debra was not confortable with the cash shows either and we don't know if Prince was even aware of those, right? Perhaps he was. Didn't Meron state the money she had in her purse was from shows?

no, from selling CD's/merch (?)

[Edited 4/25/18 12:46pm]

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Reply #552 posted 04/25/18 12:31pm

PeteSilas

Robbajobba said:

MMJas said:

I accessed it through the Carver County site. Electronics records 5.

That specific interview (Debra's) is very telling, imo. Does anyone know if there is a transcript for it on the report? I canĀ“t remember...

[Edited 4/25/18 9:11am]

Just finished it. It's unbelievable. Thing is, Debra is making all these frankly horrifying accusations - and she sounds very plausible - to a cop who isn't really following it, and who isn't really investigating corruption / deception etc etc. I really hope someone follows this up, but who would that be? Who's the injured party now he's gone?

what is she saying?

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Reply #553 posted 04/25/18 12:32pm

cloveringold85

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bondno9 said:

Cub receipt is dated 10/1/2015. He was using Enema's since then??? eek

sidenote: wish my receipts after so many months looked that good.

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Seems that way, and quite possibly long before then. I would say that things started to get bad for him around 2014--2016.

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Sad how receipts and other things were left sitting around there. I saw a date on something from 2006!! eek

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #554 posted 04/25/18 12:33pm

NotACleverName

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Everyone should listen to the audio from Debra Johnson's interview. It cut off in the middle though. They (Phaedra, Van, Rhonda Trotter) got rid of his deal with Universal against Debra's advice. Then the royalties were going into an entity owned by Phaedra! When Debra questioned this she was fired.


I can not even articulate my thoughts re this revelation. Vultures. Makes me sick and my heart breaks for Prince that these morally bankrupt individuals were in his life.

"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
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Reply #555 posted 04/25/18 12:33pm

Musze

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disch said:

Paisley photos from 4/21 and 4/26 are in Records_2

Paisley photos from 5/10 and 5/11 are in Records_4

KiowaTrl said:

I'm curious about where the Paisley pics are located also. Are these in the Electronic Records Site 1 and 2 on the Carver website? If so, can someone say which of the zip files they are located in?

[Edited 4/25/18 12:23pm]

Thank U, Kindly.

I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #556 posted 04/25/18 12:35pm

cloveringold85

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precioux said:

MMJas said:

This is what I was refering to.
Debra was not confortable with the cash shows either and we don't know if Prince was even aware of those, right? Perhaps he was. Didn't Meron state the money she had in her purse was from shows?

no, from selling CD's/merch (?)

I need to know the amount of $ in each envelope Meron had on her...can you help me out here

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You're funny, Precioux!! lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #557 posted 04/25/18 12:36pm

KiowaTrl

disch said:

Paisley photos from 4/21 and 4/26 are in Records_2

Paisley photos from 5/10 and 5/11 are in Records_4

KiowaTrl said:

I'm curious about where the Paisley pics are located also. Are these in the Electronic Records Site 1 and 2 on the Carver website? If so, can someone say which of the zip files they are located in?

[Edited 4/25/18 12:23pm]

Thank you disch!!

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Reply #558 posted 04/25/18 12:37pm

precioux

fortuneandserendipity said:

precioux said:

it's best you keep my name out of your mouth, "Doc"...especially when everyone here knows that was not what my thought on the situation was. LR is no longer here to ask, and if I'm not mistaken, Muimo has handed your ass to you before. So step away from the keyboard before sarcastically inserting usernames in your post.

P.S.- congratulations on learning how to spell my username the way I set it up....literacy suits you when the repercussion for maliciously/deliberately editing my username in a former post got you banned.

kiss


I can definitely remember you saying that was your opinion, that he likely had an illness and it was terminal. And the reason you and a few others believed so probably has to do with Tyka. If you keep up to speed with the thread, you'll realise why she can't be trusted.

Mumio postures as though he hands people's asses. But it's all bluster, whataboutery. His new name should be 'Mumbojumbo' rolleyes

No, sweetheart..I read where muimo handed you your ass personally.


Furthermore, I can not stand Tyka and have never believed a word out of her OR her dinosaur's mouth.

You'd better get to stepping, because you're delusionnal and your literacy is escaping you yet again, "Doc"

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Reply #559 posted 04/25/18 12:37pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Lovejunky said:

I caught that too...



Very strange...Difficult to accidentally send a Picture to some one UNLESS you are


deliberately sending a picture to some one and you acccidentally send it to the wrong number ?



So why was Kirk sending a picture of the stairs to ANYONE at that time...?



It feels creepy to me escpecially since the last time anyone heard frm Prince was 10.03


5 minutes after this picture was taken...





bondno9 said:


What in the world??? So KJ "accidently" sends a photo of some "stairs" to Dr. S at what looks like 9:38 pm and then at 11:12 pm sends another text saying "sorry for that photo. please fax those charts to Mr. Howard Kornfeld SO ..."



Text Message




Agree with you. That leads to many questions...
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Reply #560 posted 04/25/18 12:38pm

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NotACleverName said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Everyone should listen to the audio from Debra Johnson's interview. It cut off in the middle though. They (Phaedra, Van, Rhonda Trotter) got rid of his deal with Universal against Debra's advice. Then the royalties were going into an entity owned by Phaedra! When Debra questioned this she was fired.

I can not even articulate my thoughts re this revelation. Vultures. Makes me sick and my heart breaks for Prince that these morally bankrupt individuals were in his life.


Well it's out in the open and that's a start.
Actually the beginning of the end, for them.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #561 posted 04/25/18 12:38pm

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cloveringold85 said:

kmama07 said:

cloveringold85 said: Twilight zone comment made me chuckle. Ya, I was thinking about how easy it is for us "common folk" to wish our lives were glamorous in the way we may have thought his was...and others like him. Now that we've discussed all this shit over the past two years, and especially since the documents were released, I don't envy him at all. At least I know the people around me (friends and most importantly family) are legit and on my side.

.

Prince's life, at least towards the end, seemed anything but glamorous.

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When there is money around (cash cow); you begin to see people's true colors.


All of this makes me wonder if the cash cow may have been on the verge of no longer producing that cash; bringing out people's even truer colors?

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #562 posted 04/25/18 12:39pm

MMJas

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precioux said:

MMJas said:

This is what I was refering to.
Debra was not confortable with the cash shows either and we don't know if Prince was even aware of those, right? Perhaps he was. Didn't Meron state the money she had in her purse was from shows?

no, from selling CD's/merch (?)

I need to know the amount of $ in each envelope Meron had on her...can you help me out here

2 envelopes. one with 3630 in cash. another with 200.

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Reply #563 posted 04/25/18 12:42pm

precioux

cindyt said:

cloveringold85 said:

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eek

see...this phaedra chick...hmmm. Now they work with Jay-Z....her and Van Jones. I hope he doesn't have any chinks in his armor somewhere. Watch your back dude.

Seriously, I find phaedra's reaction on that day...stain in the carpet etc. and kirk johnson's actions to be reprehendible. It really makes you wonder if someone planted pills, not that I no longer believe Prince was an addict, because I do think he was. But that level of carelessness, something is so so wrong with this whole thing. The cops knew that people would be completely in question of the actions of those around Prince when they put these reports out, and they know somebody is completely complicit. Can they not prove who...or are they afraid to prove who?

A person would like to go back and change all the things that led to such an unnecessary death. And you can't, so you try to figure out what really happened. But only the people involved and God know the truth...and that, my friends, is where they will finally be tripped up.

pg.54 #21

what was the "blood stain preparation"(MME item11)

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Reply #564 posted 04/25/18 12:43pm

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bonatoc said:

NotACleverName said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: I can not even articulate my thoughts re this revelation. Vultures. Makes me sick and my heart breaks for Prince that these morally bankrupt individuals were in his life.


Well it's out in the open and that's a start.
Actually the beginning of the end, for them.

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Such a sad and very tragic end to an incredible man's life! Prince did not deserve any of this. So many people took advantage of his loving and giving heart, and took advantage of a man who had a serious struggle with physical (and emotional) pain, no doubt.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #565 posted 04/25/18 12:44pm

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NotACleverName said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Everyone should listen to the audio from Debra Johnson's interview. It cut off in the middle though. They (Phaedra, Van, Rhonda Trotter) got rid of his deal with Universal against Debra's advice. Then the royalties were going into an entity owned by Phaedra! When Debra questioned this she was fired.


I can not even articulate my thoughts re this revelation. Vultures. Makes me sick and my heart breaks for Prince that these morally bankrupt individuals were in his life.




So in light of this news, prince being gone would greatly benefit these people...the investigators in this case did not know what they were doing, they clearly do not know who the players were/are...it's like a mechanic investigating a brain tumor...it would be great if some hard core prince fans that know the history and back story to all of this could walk them through the hundreds of glaring red flags here...and the estate must know where the royalties are going, so what's up with that?
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Reply #566 posted 04/25/18 12:45pm

cloveringold85

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Prince's life, at least towards the end, seemed anything but glamorous.

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When there is money around (cash cow); you begin to see people's true colors.


All of this makes me wonder if the cash cow may have been on the verge of no longer producing that cash; bringing out people's even truer colors?

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No doubt. Thing is, how much is enough? Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins. The love of money is the root of all evil.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #567 posted 04/25/18 12:46pm

PeteSilas

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

NotACleverName said:
I can not even articulate my thoughts re this revelation. Vultures. Makes me sick and my heart breaks for Prince that these morally bankrupt individuals were in his life.

So in light of this news, prince being gone would greatly benefit these people...the investigators in this case did not know what they were doing, they clearly do not know who the players were/are...it's like a mechanic investigating a brain tumor...it would be great if some hard core prince fans that know the history and back story to all of this could walk them through the hundreds of glaring red flags here...and the estate must know where the royalties are going, so what's up with that?

lord, it sounds like those folks ripping off prince in his last days better look out for some kind of legal issues.

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Reply #568 posted 04/25/18 12:48pm

PeteSilas

cloveringold85 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

and it had been going on for YEARS.....I once wrote that he died of "neglect" and prizefight told me that post brought her to tears.

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Neglected, for sure. Totally alone, and no one to trust. He suffered alone in pain, and no one cared. sad

that's bullshit, people did care just like with elvis, but most of us didn't know, and even if we did, how would we get around the vultures? celebs live with buffers to the real world, good reasons for doing it that way but it's also very dangerous to be isolated.

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Reply #569 posted 04/25/18 12:51pm

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The interview with Debra is blowing my mind. It cuts off at 15 minutes, and i don't see a "Part 2" in the files -- is it in there somewhere?

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